Here we go again..... The project thread (http://archive.mcnninjas.com/index.php?topic=83344.0) continues.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/IMG_1450.jpg) (http://archive.mcnninjas.com/index.php?topic=83344.0)
After experiencing high running temperatures for the last few years, I noticed that this year things have been getting worse quicker.
Having a good poke around seems to indicate that the head gasket is failing despite no oil/water problems, just running hot and losing water and not to mention air bubbles appearing in the overflow bottle when the engine is revved.
Today I bit the bullet and decided that the engine needs to come out, I had already taken off the fairings, the exhaust, most of the cooling system and the fuel tank, then it was onto unknown territory
First off, the ecu, the secondary fuel injectors and fuel rail
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010581_zps062f55c8.jpg)
The onto the airbox
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010583_zpsfc3ffa31.jpg)
After that was the main fuel injectors and throttle bodies
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010585_zps7fda77e5.jpg)
Quick note of which plugs go where
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010587_zps7d9a1263.jpg)
Throttle bodies off...what next ?
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010588_zpse598bc0f.jpg)
Oh so many wires
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010589_zpsd6a550cf.jpg)
Thermostat housing off along with the rest of the coolant hoses
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010592_zpsa31b8df1.jpg)
Loom tucked out of harms way....where does it all go ?
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010593_zps9cd1773b.jpg)
Time to get busy with the Dremel......special Honda tool required
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010595_zps3d26aa6b.jpg)
5 mins later
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010596_zps2f147140.jpg)
A good enough fit
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010598_zps4aef56ee.jpg)
New Honda CBR600RR Superleggera
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010603_zps26c04796.jpg)
It was encouraging that it all went straight forward, but the real challenge for me lays ahead. Next job is to get the cylinder head off and hopefully find the cause of the issues. Then fit a new gasket and rebuild. I'm also thinking that whist it is like this I should do the valve clearances and anything that is on the service schedule.
I'm also thinking of stripping the rest of the bike down and painting the frame and making the whole bike mint.
During this period of rest for the bike (will be into next year before trackdays again) there are other jobs to do to....brake fluid needs changing, might as well change the pads too...infact might get some newer/cleaner calipers too. Might even see if my 'budget' can extend to a slipper clutch too.
Love these projects, keep us updated!
Good work mate.
If you get stuck manufacturing special tools I will put you in touch with the fella off ebay who made my clutch tool for the Sherco for £18 instead of £75 from Sherco.
He does all sorts.
Ooo isnt the swingarm pivot used as an engine mount on the 600rr then? I couldn't believe how much had to be taken off an SP1 and a cbr600f to get the engines out!
Yep, swingarm pivot was removed...put it back in after though, just to have a rolling chassis.
Today saw the stripdown of the top end of the engine
1 complete engine
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010604_zpseab7a135.jpg)
Plugs, coils and leads removed, then off with the cam cover
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010609_zps7d678452.jpg)
Timing aligned to the correct marks
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010611_zps7e847450.jpg)
Cam chain top guide removed
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010614_zps0380a327.jpg)
Camshaft mounting brackets removed
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010617_zps4a791e00.jpg)
Camshafts out
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010619_zps5a726591.jpg)
Buckets and shims removed
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010623_zps81b0b426.jpg)
Bucket/shim holder that doubles up as an ice cube tray
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010622_zpscc2b3939.jpg)
Head off and this is the view of the top of the block
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010624_zpsf1680f98.jpg)
Underside of the head, with the gasket still in place
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010631_zps7bfc640d.jpg)
Gasket placed onto block
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010639_zps92312b49.jpg)
To be honest it's not the picture that I had imagined. I wanted to see the gasket showing clear signs of failing so I could easily identify the problem area, then get a new gasket and rebuild. As it stands now, I'm not entirely sure that the gasket is the cause of the water problems. 2nd opinions have now to be sought.
Left to right I'd go with nr3 cylinder. Looks like a witness mark on he waterway at 10 o'clock.
waterways do look kinda crudded up.. i found just using water without any corrosion inhibators gave similar results.. do you use coolant not just water?
either way i'd blow out the waterways with compressed air and flush everything though a few times..
Clean that motor !
Shouldn't this now be v2.01?
Quote from: Millhouse on July 22, 2013, 07:52:38 AM
Shouldn't this now be v2.01?
No - this is definately a major or major.minor release ..
I think v3.1 or 2.1 potentially ;-)
Noted, and applied.
Found these markings whilst getting ready to do the shims, thought I'd add them to the thread here to keep everything together
Head first
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010650_zps7d9cb0f8.jpg)
Close up
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010649_zps1559adf8.jpg)
Also on the head
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010648_zpsfa234ff2.jpg)
Then hand written inside the head is "110" on the inlet side, and "160" on the exhaust side
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010651_zpsfb6f9470.jpg)
Then on the cases
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010660_zps575184d2.jpg)
Close up
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010659_zpscdcfe8a5.jpg)
Anyone able to decipher what they are, or why they are there ?
Interesting........ found similar initials and numbers on my SP1 when I rebuilt the top end on that, only mine said JR122 on it same place as yours either side of the crankcase join, and inside the head no idea why it was there or what it meant though?
I got the valve clearances checked this afternoon, and all in spec. I will be getting 1 shim though, as one valve is on the tolerence of 0.03mm over (the rest are either spot on or +/- 0.01mm).
I then started the arduous task of cleaning off the stuck gasket material left on the head. Didn't get very far, got bored very quickly, so that will have to wait for another day.
Finished cleaning up the head today
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/photo_zps2711eada.jpg)
Made a start on the block too, but again, got a bit bored and gave up.
Shiny! Nice one. That has to be worth at least 3 bhp!
If only it were that easy
Quote from: Neil on July 28, 2013, 05:13:58 PM
Made a start on the block, got bored and gave up.
Comedy genius
I've started to collect parts again, just random stuff really....
Heres what came through the post today
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010662_zpsb39ec03c.jpg)
Nothing bling or even any different to what I already have, apart from the colour. The one on the bike is gold and doesn't match the fronts anymore (or even work very well tbh)
More bits to be revealed once they arrive
Yesterday, the postie brought these
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010664_zpsbb108e83.jpg)
and then today, he delivered this to me
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/IMG_1865_zpsfe4a1a43.jpg)
I've also put my order in to Honda for the gaskets, o-rings, shim, etc, etc that I need to put the engine back together....hopefully it won't take too long to arrive.
Going well Neil - The slipper clutch should work great, love it!
(Bonus time at work maybe)??!!
Is the Sigma ramp or ballbearing?
Ramp according to the website
There's a Chris Mayhew ported head fs on Motoforum for one of these I think & some works WP stuff too.
I'm fully aware of all the bits and pieces being offered for sale on the forums and ebay....nothing getting past me at the mo
So, do the 04-06 heads & shocks all swap?
As far as I am aware, they all fit.
Already have the suspension sorted though, and for the meantime, the engine is going to stay standard too.
Got the block cleaned up today
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010666_zpsbb6dfd3e.jpg)
All ready now for the head gasket (which will be next weekend)
My order from Honda turned up today
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010671_zps9110a7da.jpg)
Won't be long now...
When youre done can you come and do mine :)
As long as you are footing the bill Iain
Hmm..:D
Today's installment.....
1.6 Bar rad cap
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010675_zps3f5a8eb4.jpg)
Motobatt Battery
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010676_zpse988250a.jpg)
Latest model Tokico Monoblocks
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v2/P1010674_zps2c18d7d7.jpg)
I like your approach to decision making Neil. I like to think of it as two internal Neil's.... ones the cock and balls and one is the worrier.... we'll call them "Cock and Balls" and "Brain" for the purposes of my imagined internal monologue!
Brain: We have a problem with the bike engine; I can't decide whether to fix it, swap the engine, keep it or sell it.
CAB: We love the bike, we should just fix it!
Brain: We might be able to fix it?
CAB: We can definitely fix it.... we should definitely fix it
Brain: What if we can't fix it?
CAB: We can definitely fix it!
Brain: Should we ask the forum?
CAB: Fine, but mainly so they all know that we are going to fix it, so when we've fixed it, they'll know we've fixed it!
Brain: Humor me, what happens if we don't fix it?
CAB: Look, worst case scenario, we'll fit the engine hoping its fixed and it's not
Brain: What happens then?
CAB: We'll probably lose interest and then either live with a broken engine until it goes pop or eventually sell it anyway
Brain: That sounds like a lot of effort, we like the bike, we don't want to be in that situation
CAB: Fine, we'll just buy a shitload of shinny new parts..... then we're committed!
Brain: I LIKE IT!
WOW
That is so true it's scary
actually chuckling in the office here!!
Quote from: Neil on August 06, 2013, 06:54:41 PM
WOW
That is so true it's scary
haha, it's the only way to get things done..... I'm backing CAB all the way!
Today is the turning point in this current work, I've started to put things back together :)
All cleaned up and ready to go
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010684_zps86a7b77b.jpg)
New gasket
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010686_zps647beee3.jpg)
Head back on
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010687_zpsd85afbd3.jpg)
Shims and buckets replaced
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010689_zps6720c66a.jpg)
Camshafts fitted
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010691_zpse2e56120.jpg)
New seals for the camshaft holders
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010692_zps8a35afd9.jpg)
All timed correctly
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010694_zps96ff0518.jpg)
Then bolted down
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010696_zps70078e1d.jpg)
Cam cover on then plugs and leads fitted
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010698_zps58a4ce23.jpg)
Engine back where it belongs
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010701_zps402bc12d.jpg)
Just have to remember what went where
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010702_zpsa581c9ec.jpg)
Should have it all connected and running tomorrow
Quote from: Neil on 09-08-2013 21:05Should have it all connected and running tomorrow
I was right....it was all connected back up and running today
Had it running to gain some heat and all is fine, then once its proper hot I turned it off.....then could hear a sporadic splash as a drip hits the evhaust.....on closer inspection, this is what I have found
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010710_zps2d891143.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010715_zps0c42d4aa.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010716_zps2525273d.jpg)
Thats the oil cooler gone then
How hard are they to change?
Simple...4 bolts, undo, remove and replace.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010706_zps81c88cc2.jpg)
Trying to find a replacement is a little harder though....new is £400 and bugger all on ebay atm
so do you reckon that was the issue all along?
Well, you only have to look at the symptons......slow water loss, with no leak marks.
Seeing what I found with the head gasket, ie nothing, it has to be something like this.
I'm going to set to it tomorrow with some chemical metal and see if I can bodge it until I can get hold of a replacement.
can it be braised?
It looks like ally, so maybe
Better than chemi-metal then...
That's all very well, but I have no brazing rods, or blow torch
Besides....I've found a cooler on ebay.com that the seller will ship here.....£60 all in
Also contacted a uk 'bayer who is breaking an 04 RR, will see if he has an oil cooler.
Well I spouse that would be easier...
;)
Can lend you a blowtorch if required.
Im going to attack it with some of this ......
(http://washford.scene7.com/is/image/Washford/400-110437?$PDP_ENLARGE$)
But hopefully I have found someone with a decent spare for sale, so either way it'll be fixed soon.
Sealed a deal for a new spare cooler, so haven't bothered with the above.
Glad you got to the bottom of it. I find it really frustrating when you know you have a problem that could ruin your track day but you can't solve it.
Quote from: 0luke0 on August 11, 2013, 01:57:31 PM
Glad you got to the bottom of it. I find it really frustrating when you know you have a problem that could ruin your track day but you can't solve it.
Let's not jump to conclusions just yet.....
Not much work on the bike today, I had to sort my shed out as it had become a right shithole.
Shed sorted and I've gained some space for a little work bench type area, on which I stripped and inspected the 3 new calipers I've bought. All cleaned up nicely and ready to fit onto the bike tomorrow.
Sorry mate, hope I haven't jinxed you!
I found the chemical metal stuff pretty good.. but.. it makes a huge difference if you prepare it first.. scuff up the surface with a wire wheel / sandpaper and degrease with brake cleaner.. leave to dry and then apply the chemical metal stuff and resist the urge to prod it.. leave for a good 12 hours and it's pretty good stuff...
Another fairly big day for RR (now v4.21)
Started off by removing the exhaust, draining the coolant and then emptying the oil so I could remove the oil cooler. 1 bolt out of the 4 very nearly refused to play ball, but I won that contest, although it now needs to be replaced....so, oil cooler off, and also oil filter too.
New cooler should be with me tomorrow and I've already got the filter, but can't fit it up yet as I will need a new oil seal for the cooler, so seeing as I was onto Honda for parts I got a couple of other bits I'll need soon (clutch nut and friction plate)
I couldn't stretch to the pair of Brembo M4 calipers that I was after, mainly due to needing newer larger discs and then a spacing kit if I won the auction. I ended up being more friendly to my wallet and went with the latest model Tokico monoblocks and new pads instead.
It was a good job I was changing the brake setup as the fluid was past it's best
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010718_zpsce1cbfa7.jpg)
Outgoing...standard 05-06 calipers with EBC HH pads
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010722_zpsb156cb99.jpg)
Incoming...standard 10-13 calipers with SBS Dual Carbon pads
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010734_zps80bc6b93.jpg)
Fresh Motul RBF600 brake fluid
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010730_zps3a52cb08.jpg)
Got busy on the back end too
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010728_zps6f49d83a.jpg)
New caliper amd HRC reservoir kit
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010742_zps4677b805.jpg)
And finally....AFAM 41 tooth sprocket
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010747_zpsd9487071.jpg)
The gives me gearing of -2(front) -1(rear) a change of -1(rear) from what I have been running, so a little more top end and a little longer wheelbase too.
Are the newer monoblocks significantly better or just a slight upgrade? I remember the standard brakes on the 06 cbr I had a go on felt pretty impressive to me. Admittedly the new ones do look cooler :cool:
have you put a new nylock nut on the rear axle?
*ducks for cover*
;)
Honda use something called a U-nut for locking nut purposes, they are all over the bike and they work very well....unless you don't do them up enough...and that's a mistake I don't plan on replicating.
Is that still a rubber hose to the rear brake rather than braided steel?
There's a wheel on ebay......might be honda.
looking good neil. :afro:
Is that front wheel spindle tight?
Reminds me i really must uncover my gixxer and give that some loving soon. :evil:
Got the new oil cooiler through today, and as a bonus, the guy I bought it from chucked in the correct o-ring too.
Fitted it, along with a fresh oil filter, then oil.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010748_zps6c856096.jpg)
Reassembled the exhaust, filled the cooling system and fired it up.
Everything goes well, bike starts to gain temperature (not too quickly either)....gets to 86'c and the thermostat opens, temp drops, everything normal. Allow the temp to carry on rising, and on revving the engine there are NO bubbles going into the expansion bottle :grin: but then I notice an increasing puddle growing on the floor. Found out it's coming from the 'T' piece (on the right of the above pic)....turns out that I'd overtightened the jubilee clip and crushed the top end :rolleyes:
My parts order to Honda has suitably been amended, and hopefully I should have a fixed bike once the parts arrive.
Good news!
Awesome!!
Rockingham then?
Managed to fashion a repair to the broken joint
The broken bit
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_1883_zps7dccaa1d.jpg)
found something ideal at work
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_1884_zpsd1435152.jpg)
1/2" pipe fits a treat
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_1885_zpseed7c985.jpg)
The pipe was then pushed in until flush and it was a perfect fit. Installed into the bike this morning, filled the system and ran the bike.
In short....no leaks, no bubbles in the expansion bottle and responded well to a small amount of airflow over the rad when I nipped it up and down the road a couple of times (dropped 6'c)
So confident in it, that I haven't changed the repaired joint for the brand new part that turned up when I was finished.
Done a bit of tidying up and routing of cables, then put the fairings back on.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010750_zpscff169c3.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010757_zpsb8629540.jpg)
Apart from a bit of a clean and quick nut/bolt check, it's now ready to go to Rocky.
Well done Neil .. back to its former (maybe better now) glory :-)
All cleaned and checked over.
JOB.
DONE.
Latest spec list
2004 Honda CBR600RR-4
Standard engine internals (new head gasket & shims)
Arrow exhaust system c/w Leo Vince SBK Ti end can (repacked)
Velocity stacks (4x short)
DNA air filter
PCIII usb c/w custom map
O2 eliminators
HRC expansion bottle
DHB carbon engine covers
DID 525 gold chain
Renthal front sprockets (14,15)
Renthal rear sprockets (40,41,42,43,45)
Showa USD forks c/w Maxton GP25 cartridges
WP 4618 competition shock c/w remote preload
Renthal clip-ons
Renthal medium grips
DHB folding clutch lever
GB Moto rearsets
HRC quick action throttle
HRC kill switch
Brembo 19x20 Master cylinder
HEL braided hoses
SBS Dual Carbon pads
Tokico '10-13 monoblock radial calipers
Honda '05-06 Front discs
HRC rear brake reservoir
Nissin '05-06 rear caliper
Motul RBF600 brake fluid
Acumen DigiGear indicator
R&G Sharkfin
Valtermoto fuel filler cap
Metzler Racetec Interact tyres (K1 F, K2 R)
Spare wheels with Metzler wets fitted
BBPlastics race fairings c/w HRC MotoGP Paintwork
F.Fabbri double bubble screen
MotoBatt AGM battery
Still have the Sigma slipper clutch to fit, but that will be when I have received the bits I need and the have managed to get a holding tool too.
A really interesting thread with lots of updates and pictures to make it easy reading, nice work on the bike too Neil, enjoy.
such a suckup coxy.... :angel:
Quote from: m6rk on August 19, 2013, 04:37:55 PM
such a suckup coxy.... :angel:
I have no idea what came over me!
Will be back to usual piss taking knobishness in no time, apologies :lipsrsealed:
Quote from: Coxy on August 20, 2013, 01:15:50 PM
Quote from: m6rk on August 19, 2013, 04:37:55 PM
such a suckup coxy.... :angel:
I have no idea what came over me!
Will be back to usual piss taking knobishness in no time, apologies :lipsrsealed:
must be the hormone tablets from the sex change op'
The bike performed well in the wet of Rockingham at the weekend, but due to the weather it wasn't really a proper run out, so I will have to wait until next month at Snetterton to really make sure.
That aside, received some brand new Goodridge front brake hoses for a '10-13 model RR, needed these as the lines that are on the bike are for an '03-04 model (which the bike actually is), but due to the extensively modified front end, these are now at odd angles and restrict access to the pad retention pins. The new lines, along with pretty much everything else that has gone onto this bike came up cheap on eBay.
Should find some time to fit this weekend, and also got a battery tray / undertray thingie that I'm planning on modding to allow the fitment of the tail end of the kit Arrows exhaust system, which in turn will then allow bolt on options for getting a quiet silencer for MSV trackdays.
Managed to find an hour or two today and fitted up the new Goodridge hoses.
Start point
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010776_zps791d95be.jpg)
Hose has to sit at an odd angle just to clear the caliper
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010777_zpsd1917ac5.jpg)
Master cylinder end
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010781_zps16e9461f.jpg)
New hoses fit as they should
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010782_zpse61bff27.jpg)
Now fitted to the caliper correctly
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010783_zps5da90249.jpg)
Fitment to the master cylinder
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010784_zps79c182bf.jpg)
Fitted the SBS dual carbons back in after changing back to the EBC HH before the wet day at Rockingham. Quick nip up and down the road making sure the brakes are ok after the work completed, managed to drag the brakes and get a tiny bit of heat, then gave the lever a sharp pull at about 10mph and I nearly flipped it
Latest purchase arrived this morning
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/image_zps7239aab9.jpg)
Won't get to fit it before Snettetton tomorrow, so will go on the to do list.
Bring it with you, we can fit it whilst we watch the rain.
Quote from: Dom1 on September 09, 2013, 10:46:12 AM
Bring it with you, we can fit it whilst we watch the rain.
:rofl:
HM's are easy to fit - shouldn't take more than an hour.
Bring it with you Neil. I've got plenty of zip-ties...
HM Quickshifter not yet fitted as I need to get the right size link bar.
Had a trackday at Snetterton today, mixed conditions, but was able to really wring it's neck and test the cooling system. I know you will always run cooler in the wet, but the bike never went over 85'c on track, and seemed to sit around 80'c most of the time, and the expansion bottle still has roughly the same amount of water in as when I filled it up prior to nearly 1 month and two half trackdays ago.
Safe to say then that my coolant issues are well and truely over.
The next installment of work has now begun.....(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Smileys/icon_rolleyes_zps1d5254bf.gif)
Stripped the rearsets off, cleaned them up and changed most of the bolts for a more uniform appearance (there were some odd bolts from them being replaced with whatever fits by the previous owner). Taken the link bar off and have managed to work out that I don't need to buy a special one from HM, so the strain gauge is now fitted and it's all ready to go back on the bike, this will happen after I have completed some of the other work I need to do.
For the meat of the work to do, the tank had to come off and I have made a start on getting the underseat area ready for trying to relocate the starter relays and associated wiring. By doing this I will then modify the battery tray/undertray which will allow me to fit the correct link pipe onto the Arrows exhaust, which in turn, will allow me to fit something like a MHP clubman exhaust can, which should be lower than 102db and therefore make RR compliant for MSV trackdays.
I also need the tank and airbox off so that I can fit the HM wiring harness to the coil plugs.
And finally, the tank needs to stay off whilst I take the clutch casing off and change the clutch to the Sigma.
Continued with the fitting the quickshifter today.....
Removed the airbox and connected the HM loom into the coil packs, then routed the loom neatly and found a good earth point. Fitted the link bar too, so when the bike is back together, it should just need setting up.
After that it was onto the clutch, removed the clutch case, which was easier said than done as the gasket sealant that Honda use really doesn't like seperating. Anyway, got the case off, and then all the bits that are loose (idle gear etc for starter motor) and then onto the clutch itself. Removed the clutch cover and plates, and then using the new clutch holder tool removed the nut for the clutch centre. Trial fitted all the plates into the Sigma to make sure the clearances meet the required spec and all is good. Can't fit it back together yet though as I've bought a new friction plate so that I could eliminate the anti chatter rings, and it needs a good soaking before fitting.
Should be back together next weekend, leaving only the underseat wire tidying left to do.
I honestly thought you already had one, your up and downshifts are MUCH smoother than mine, possibly the bike more than the rider....or at least that's what I'm telling myself ;)
Finished up with the fitting of the Sigma today, all straight forward enough, and then got the rest of the bike back to normal so that I could give it a test to make sure there was nothing awry.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_1933_zps4182aaf4.jpg)
I have temporarily aborted the relocation of tailend wiring and exhaust changing until I have mustered up some more enthusiasm and energy to continue.
Chucked the battery back on and it fired up and ran on the button, a quick adustment of the clutch lever was needed due to the change in the clutch stack height, but other than that there were no problems. A quick up and down of the road reveals that the quickshifter works, but I'll go through the calibration when I can. It also revealed that the clutch feels fine, but I can't really test it any further without it being on track (I did get some speed up in fourth and then clutch in down to 1st and clutch drop out again without locking the rear, but it was hardly a conclusive test)
So much has changed on this bike (again) that it's now due another name........it's now.....RR EVO 3
Saw the thread name, thought you'd bought a rangey!!!
What clutch tool were you using? :moto:
This one.....
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Honda-CBR-600RR-clutch-holding-tool-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/BnkAAOxyiBpSK2kU/$T2eC16VHJHYFFkPR9-)-BSK2kT7Imw~~60_12.JPG)
ooo Shiny slipper - like it.. so when you bringing this out on track next.. must be worth 5 seconds a lap :evil: :afro:
Quote from: Neil on September 18, 2013, 08:24:54 PM
I have temporarily aborted the relocation of tailend wiring and exhaust changing until I have mustered up some more enthusiasm and energy to continue.
I found some enthusiasm today and went about the task of trying to fit up the tailend of the Arrows system. Fell at the first hurdle though, it simply won't fit with the standard sized battery in place. Spent quite a while trying to make it fit, but it's not having it, so I think the best bet is to take the bike to someone like MHP and have a custom link pipe made, and then a new can to fit, a job to do after finishing the trackdays for the year methinks.
Whilst I had the tools out, I made a good job of tidying the extra wiring that came with HM quickshifter, in fact, I tidied all the tail end wiring up and routed it neatly.
Done a few other little bits and pieces that needed doing, changed the 41 tooth rear sprocket to a 43 as I felt the bike seemed a bit flat coming out of the corners, then stuck the fairings back on.
As it stands, it again is ready for the next trackday.
Tidied up my axle nuts today, as I was getting comments that they were letting the side down....
Before...
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1010747_zpsd9487071.jpg)
After....
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_1962_zps811c2d64.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_1964_zps8c7b6586.jpg)
Also did the front spindle too...
Before..
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_1960_zpsd7fa43dd.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_1961_zps4156529b.jpg)
After....
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_1966_zps8dbf5056.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_1965_zps4ab33eb8.jpg)
Much betterer!!!
Rode the bike yesterday at a dry Brands Indy, quickshifter is a real joy to use and the slipper is a good safety net.
The bike just gets better the more I ride it and it ran perfect for all sessions without the need for any tinkering.
The only real issue now to sort is what appears to be the starter motor giving up, it's a bit intermittant, so once the last TD for the year is over on Sunday I shall have a proper investigation.
The bike is heading to MHP on Saturday to have a new (quieter) can and link pipe made up, no more stuffing the baffle full of wire wool just to get through 102db days.
Getting remapped as well?
Nah, should be similar in terms of performance to the Leo Vince, so shouldn't really affect the fueling
Cool!
Quote from: Neil on October 10, 2013, 08:02:24 PM
The only real issue now to sort is what appears to be the starter motor giving up, it's a bit intermittant, so once the last TD for the year is over on Sunday I shall have a proper investigation.
there is only one man's way out of this predicament Neil .....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Euro-Racing-Race-Bike-Electric-Starter-Foot-Operated-Starter-Switch-/141079080211?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20d8f7ed13
Finally got to the the bottom of the starter issues, it turned out to be the starter relay.
Got a new pattern part off eBay for £15 and it's all fixed and working on the button again.
Spent a few hours at MHP Exhausts yesterday....went with the intention of getting a new can and fitting, but things weren't quite straight forward.
Long story short, Mark at MHP didn't think it was the can that was causing the noise issues, and in the end he proved himself right. He is a top bloke who really knows his job and is not a rip off merchant either. He ended up concluding that I didn't need a new can, so he wouldn't sell it to me.
The problem really lies with the kit Arrows system that I have, something to do with resonance frequencies around 7k rpm (noise testing range) which really drive the sound pressure higher. After repacking my Leo Vince can the level dipped only slightly, Mark then tried the can he had put aside for me, and that was no different, so back to my can and making all sorts of front end baffle arrangements (It really is amazing to watch a true craftsman at work), but ultimately nothing really showed any notable improvement.
We agreed that it wasn't really worth the expense of persuing further by modifing the Arrows system pipes, so the simplest remedy was to fabricate an MHP adjustable baffle for my can, which dropped the readings by c.5db in the middle of it's adjustment range. The downside to this will be a potential power drop somewhere, but it's all about the noise level, as if it's too loud I won't be on track to find out about power loss.
I still have the option of going back to the standard headers and using the Leo Vince can (how it used to be) if I still have too many noise issues. I will be trying out the new baffle with my sound meter within the next week or two, and find out just what I'm faced with.
So a quick plug for MHP Exhausts, if you're looking to have any exhaust work, then give them a ring or email.
Quote from: Neil on April 06, 2014, 04:10:45 PM
Finally got to the the bottom of the starter issues, it turned out to be the starter relay.
Got a new pattern part off eBay for £15 and it's all fixed and working on the button again.
Spent a few hours at MHP Exhausts yesterday....went with the intention of getting a new can and fitting, but things weren't quite straight forward.
Long story short, Mark at MHP didn't think it was the can that was causing the noise issues, and in the end he proved himself right. He is a top bloke who really knows his job and is not a rip off merchant either. He ended up concluding that I didn't need a new can, so he wouldn't sell it to me.
The problem really lies with the kit Arrows system that I have, something to do with resonance frequencies around 7k rpm (noise testing range) which really drive the sound pressure higher. After repacking my Leo Vince can the level dipped only slightly, Mark then tried the can he had put aside for me, and that was no different, so back to my can and making all sorts of front end baffle arrangements (It really is amazing to watch a true craftsman at work), but ultimately nothing really showed any notable improvement.
We agreed that it wasn't really worth the expense of persuing further by modifing the Arrows system pipes, so the simplest remedy was to fabricate an MHP adjustable baffle for my can, which dropped the readings by c.5db in the middle of it's adjustment range. The downside to this will be a potential power drop somewhere, but it's all about the noise level, as if it's too loud I won't be on track to find out about power loss.
I still have the option of going back to the standard headers and using the Leo Vince can (how it used to be) if I still have too many noise issues. I will be trying out the new baffle with my sound meter within the next week or two, and find out just what I'm faced with.
So a quick plug for MHP Exhausts, if you're looking to have any exhaust work, then give them a ring or email.
He is indeed "the man" ..
Managed to get my sound meter back and nip out and do some sound testing....
This is for the kit Arrows system and the Leo Vince SBK can (which MHP repacked), I tried the can without any baffle, with the Leo Vince baffle, and then with the MHP baffle in different stages of it's adjustment range.
This is the MHP baffle
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_2334_zps81a4c614.jpg)
I warmed the bike up a bit first, until it showed about 60'c and then the results are as follows
No baffle - 104.7
LV baffle - 101.0
MHP baffle (closed) - 95.8
MHP baffle (open) - 97.4
MHP baffle (end off) - 97.6
Each test was carried out to ACU guidlines (45' 500mm @ 7000 rpm) and the results are the average of 3 tests back to back.
After all the tests, I retested the can without any baffle
No baffle - 102.8
That should see me pass any noise testing that I come up against, although I have no idea what kind of power loss is to be expected with the new baffle.
Having the bike warmed up well makes a huge difference. My b1 when cold is 104dBa, when warm is 102dBa and when properly hot, high 70s on the gauge, is 100-101dBa. That's with no baffle at all. I'm gonna ram some new packing in it and see if I can't get it down to 98dBa so I can get on quiet days.
Time to update again.......
Noise is now not an issue, have done 3 trackdays recently, two with the LV baffle and one without. When hot I got tested with the baffle at 98db both times, so next time I will try without and see if I can get inside 102db. The noisy day I was tested without the baffle, but the tester thought the bike was a thou so he only asked for 5.5k revs to test at...wasn't going to argue.
As far as the rest of the bike goes, well, it's not quite such a good story right now. 2 silly offs have taken their toll on the left side of the bike.
It's not too bad really, but it's certainly not gleaming anymore :(
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020195_zpsfe9fa8e8.jpg)
Clip on clamp broke, but the bar is perfect (how did that happen ?).
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020219_zps01acf3a3.jpg)
Seat unit was the worst hit and needs a big repair or replacing.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020205_zps6c344ba0.jpg)
Footpeg snapped off and the mounting plate is bent too.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020238_zps6af3c524.jpg)
Carbon generator cover did it's job well, and has saved the casing underneath from being worn away. I have run the bike for a while today and the case is not weeping at all, so all is ok there.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020229_zps8010047c.jpg)
The worst thing (from my perpsective) is the swingarm took a hit, and the bobbin has been ripped out of the mounting, the mount is still intact, although deformed and still has half the bobbin bolt stuck inside. The sharkfin has also vanished into thin air too.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020207_zpsf4582659.jpg)
cooor that has taken a bit of a bash nothing to major though thankfully
also fine extra use for the haynes
The bike needs to be ready for the summer fest at Donny (29th July) so I have a little time to get things done.
So far the list reads along the lines of
Sort the clip on
Sort the rearset
Sort the seat unit
Sort the front fairing mount area
Oil and filter change
Source replacement wets
New grips
Change discs of wet wheels
Thoroughly clean the bike
Theres probably more, but thats enough to focus on for the meantime.
can look shit aslong as its solid shouldn't be too hard a job
Would seriously consider replacing the engine cover. It's worn away far enough to remove the A from Honda...
and the carbon cover
Brand new cover from Honda is £53, so not majorly expensive, but I don't like repair bills, I much prefer upgrades.
Is the case different from mine. I have a couple of spares if they are any use.
Quote from: Neil on May 29, 2014, 10:07:29 PM
Brand new cover from Honda is £53, so not majorly expensive, but I don't like repair bills, I much prefer upgrades.
that's exactly how my mind works I can pay 50 quid to get something like for like or a can pay double that and get something a tiny bit better...... story of my life
Dom....F4i ?
Yup.
I will check which side I have if they are the same.
Ouchy.
Least it isn't anything major. Just a shame the paint work is damaged, everything else can be easily replaced / upgraded.
Glad you got away ok.
Did you get the crash on video?
Did he ever!
maybe carbon fairings are in order.....
Ah just seen it on the other thread.
Dom, investigation reveals that the casings are different
Quote from: Neil on May 29, 2014, 10:33:21 PM
Dom, investigation reveals that the casings are different
:( shame
Many people said the old "That'll T-Cut out" when the bike was couriered back to the pits.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_2374_zps0b3cf79c.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/IMG_2379_zpsb7c732dc.jpg)
Well....It didn't, but it did improve it somewhat.
LOL
Not a hard repair. Though other than the paint
Received the parts ordered from GBMoto for the rearsets today, and side by side comparison of the main mounting bracket you can see why it needed changing (pics later). New footpegs and toe pieces for spares too.
Seeing as the sun was shining this afternoon, I thought I'd better get the first few things done, just to make the bike easier to move around really.
Started of with the rearset....
Old mounting plate, note the gap
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020255_zps6dc57cd1.jpg)
New mounting bracket, no gaps
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020254_zpsa32708f1.jpg)
Parts received from GBMoto, seeing as I was ordering from them I got some spares too.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020264_zps245d943f.jpg)
Rearsets fitted back onto the bike, all is good again.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020269_zpsc705f9d5.jpg)
Then it was onto the front end....
Think this speaks for itself.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020265_zps3159ad23.jpg)
Clamp fitted under the yoke and clip on tube refitted.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020266_zps55b571e1.jpg)
Changed the bung in the end of the bar, changed the grips and aligned the clutch lever back to where it should be
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020270_zpsfce79799.jpg)
That little lot wasn't cheap, but it's what was needed, and now gives me a few spares to chuck in the track box.
Next will be an order to Honda for a replacement generator cover, then I've got to decide what to do about crash protection for said cover. Once I have the genny cover then I will also do the oil and filter change too.
Once the mechanicals are sorted then it's on to the bodywork.....time to get some supplies from work methinks.
shes healing slowly
Maybe paint it after Donny, save tempting fate.
Quote from: Dom1 on June 07, 2014, 05:26:02 PM
Maybe paint it after Donny, save tempting fate.
good idea that!
It's not changing colour.....repaired and blended (for as few pounds as possible)
Quote from: WizzBang on June 07, 2014, 05:34:02 PM
It's not changing colour.....repaired and blended (for as few pounds as possible)
suppose its not worth returning it to its former glory really (cosmetically)
I think you might be overestimating the amount of damage to them.
The real damage is to the seat unit, which needs a fairly major repair and then some paint to the left side. The main fairings need only a minor repair and then a little paint (all to the left side too)
ah not as bad as I thought then
Seat unit
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020204_zps58065d25.jpg)
Main fairing
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020195_zpsfe9fa8e8.jpg)
pahh fairing wise it still looks rideable is leave it as is we all know your going to bin it at Donny........
Might be time to practice your fiber-glassing Neil? From what I have seen it is an easy enough job to do of an afternoon and none too expensive? Might be quite satisfying too?
Using Dave's cornflake box trick I reckon that seat unit shouldnt take too much work :)
Ive a spare seat unit that I shall be taking a cast of around the affected area, then pop it on the damaged one, line it up and hey presto I have the required shape.
As far as practising my fibre glassing, I get enough of that at work. Quite handy though, as I can help myself to odds and ends every now and again.
More work on the bike again today....
Started off with dropping the oil and removing the old filter, then it was onto meat of the work.
Old case
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020251_zpse11654bc.jpg)
Removed the case which, like the clutch side when I did that, was a bitch to get off due to the sealing compound that Honda use (no gaskets), but it eventually came off, and on went a brand new case.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020335_zps629ac1df.jpg)
Waited for gasket sealant to start curing and then fitted up the new cover
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020341_zps9ef99ab5.jpg)
Seeing as the left side was done, I moved onto the other side. Despite it being undamaged, I had the other R&G cover to go on, so the carbon had to go.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020342_zps19e88f2c.jpg)
Eventually managed to get the old cover off, not suprising it was difficult to remove as I must of used half a tube of Sikaflex putting it on.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020343_zps1e2c3e4a.jpg)
Cleaned it all up a bit and then chucked the new cover on.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020346_zpsa9c09b7f.jpg)
Managed to pick up a brand new fairing support bracket off eBay for a fiver. It's only when you see old and new side by side that you realise how twisted and bent the old one is.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020336_zps4ab228c5.jpg)
Seeing as that is all done, it's time to update my to-do list
Sort the clip on
New grips
Sort the rearset
Oil and filter change
Change genny cover
Fit engine covers
Change discs of wet wheels
Thoroughly clean the bike
Sort the seat unit
Sort the front fairing mount area
Source replacement wets
Getting there
Made a start on the fairings......
Poor seat unit, it got smashed down hard during the crash
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020348_zps82e2af50.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020347_zpse0eea0fe.jpg)
Theres only about 2 inches of the unit intact along the left side, so it's not very sturdy.
Plucked from my magical supply of spares.....
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020352_zps6d29725f.jpg)
One seat unit that's seen better days, but will do for this job.
Mould cast off of spare seat
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020362_zps7fa3d9de.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020371_zpsba3f7006.jpg)
and there it is all trimmed up and ready to use.
Lined up the damaged unit and placed the mould on
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020374_zps7ec8235c.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020375_zps45aad3a0.jpg)
Laid up on the inside.
The end result
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020388_zps2bb02c8c.jpg)
The result of the above has given me structural integrity of the seat unit again, and also has given me the profile and contours that it should have.
Next task is to start building up the repaired area and shaping it.
Good work
Got some filling done, using a mixure of fibreglass resin and something called cab-o-sil which is a thickening agent.
Had a lot of grinding and sanding after sticking all that on.
Current result, which needs more work, but I'm currently out of time as I have a trackday in a couple of days.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020456_zps721d5456.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Bike/RR/RR%20v3/P1020457_zps42d03cdd.jpg)
Once the trackday has been done, and when I can find the enthusiasm again, I will continue to rub them down, and then chuck some paint over them.
your getting there
Nice one WizzBangCrashRepairRideAgain
Bike returned to standard and now sold
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