Oil filter

[zxrob]

Ok folks

Your opinions, any advantage using a K & N, I've always used Hi-flo or is it just personal choice

Cheers Rob

[7550]

Always use OE.

[David W]

OE for me.  See no point buying anything else.

[Green_Ninja]

OE for me.  See no point buying anything else.

yep me too

[Thegodfather]

I've used Hi Flo for years with no issues. I was put off K&N a couple of years ago as there were some dodgy ones causing problems.

[Carbon_ZX6R]

Always used known brands and never had problems ,

[zxrob]

As always, different opinions

I,ll put a hi flo on, been using them for years, never had a problem

Rob

[1-600-matt]

I do see lots of comments of people saying only to do them up hand tight... my b1 specifies torque to about 30Nm... so I personally think a lot of the issues... and I have seen pictures where o-rings have popped out of the filter housing... are due to incorrect fitting... just not fucking tight enough to keep the seal within its recess. I have used k&n, oem, hiflo... even have tightened some up using the nut on the front that lots of people say should never be used!!

[Green_Ninja]

I do see lots of comments of people saying only to do them up hand tight... my b1 specifies torque to about 30Nm... so I personally think a lot of the issues... and I have seen pictures where o-rings have popped out of the filter housing... are due to incorrect fitting... just not fucking tight enough to keep the seal within its recess. I have used k&n, oem, hiflo... even have tightened some up using the nut on the front that lots of people say should never be used!!

actuaally it's more likely for the o ring to be displaced if it's fitted dry, always put a nice smear of clean oil on the o ring before fitting and all should be fine. 30nm isn't a high torque and to be fair I have fitted filters 'hand tight' in the past and never had an issue.

[1-600-matt]

I do see lots of comments of people saying only to do them up hand tight... my b1 specifies torque to about 30Nm... so I personally think a lot of the issues... and I have seen pictures where o-rings have popped out of the filter housing... are due to incorrect fitting... just not fucking tight enough to keep the seal within its recess. I have used k&n, oem, hiflo... even have tightened some up using the nut on the front that lots of people say should never be used!!

actuaally it's more likely for the o ring to be displaced if it's fitted dry, always put a nice smear of clean oil on the o ring before fitting and all should be fine. 30nm isn't a high torque and to be fair I have fitted filters 'hand tight' in the past and never had an issue.

This was pictures of a filter that had been fitted but failed some time later, so fitting dry doesn't explain it for me.
30Nm is not very tight at all... but it's a hell of a lot more than hand tight
When I fit a filter hand tight and look at the compression on the o-ring, then torque it up, the spacing between the filter body and engine is massively reduced. Once the filter is correctly tightened the o-ring could never pop out. At hand tight there is a substantial gap. It seems entirely possible to me that all that is happened is that the oil pressure trying to push the seal out has managed to push the o-ring out through the gap left between the filter and engine as it wasn't tightened properly