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Title: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on September 02, 2020, 08:35:25 AM
As some of you know I have spent the last few years hitting the green lanes on my trusty DR350.

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We have shared some great times and there isn't any trail I am not prepared to throw it at.

Everyone I know who has owned a DR350 regrets selling it, including the bloke I bought it from.

But..... I have had my head turned by the Yamaha Tenere 700.

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I have the requisite permission slip from the mrs to make the change but I have to let the DR go if I want the T7.

On the plus side the T7 will give me a much greater range than the DR as it is so much better on the road sections but it is also a peach off road albeit heavier but more powerful.

Also I can actually buy accessories for the T7 cos its new and people are making stuff for it whereas I have struggled to buy parts for the DR.

Also Dan, who I ride with most has a KTM 790S so I know these larger bikes are more than capable of tackling the trails we ride.

On the down side its a lot of money to throw in a muddy Welsh ditch and I can see myself being precious about it.

Also there is not a lot of second hand ones about and they are going for strong money.

Also I can spanner the DR myself and it takes minimal maintenance.

Final decision is a bit of a way off due to the house move and needing to be sure we are financially OK after that.

Target date is getting a T7 for my birthday next year.

Every time I think I have made up my mind something comes along to change it. Most recently I rode the DR to Dartmoor and back, it did everything, maybe not as well on the road as Dan's KTM 790 but certainly good enough and I get emotionally attached to bikes so usually have to write them off rather than sell them.

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Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Alzo on September 02, 2020, 09:06:52 AM
What percentage is road riding?...I did an off road course a few years back and counter intuitive to my usual thinking was that the smaller capacity engines and a modest power output were probably more favourable for that particular activity...will the 700 and increased weight/size be a hinderence rather than an improvement???
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on September 02, 2020, 09:27:19 AM
The smaller capacity bikes are certainly the weapon of choice on the trails but the KTM 790 and Tenere are a very good compromise.

You can tackle some pretty severe stuff on the really big adventure bikes like a BMW GS if you have the skill.

The amount of lanes available is limited and a lot of my riding is tiny B-roads linking up the lanes.

Probably 70:30 roads to lanes unless I have planned it very well.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Alzo on September 02, 2020, 09:28:50 AM
The 700 beckons...do it...don't question it...😊😉
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: David W on September 02, 2020, 11:30:35 AM
Decent tyres, don't be tempted to add all the 'Adventure' nonsense and I reckon it's a win!
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on September 02, 2020, 11:50:23 AM
I'm thinking decent bashplate, engine protection and some sort of rack to throw the tent on.

Will probably go for some sort of decal kit if I can find one that doesn't look like I've crashed through Halfords so that can get scratched up and replaced when I fancy a change.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: MOzZereLLa on September 02, 2020, 08:02:24 PM
Looks great. How much are they and how do they compare price-wise to the 790 Adventure?
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on September 02, 2020, 10:10:15 PM
£9150 from the dealer £10500 for the Rally version pictured.

Used I have seen from £7300 bit £8500 is more common.

KTM 790 is about £11500. 

Ridden both on and off road and I prefer the T7 even without all the computer whizzbangery.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Jarse on September 02, 2020, 10:39:53 PM
Do it. Fantastic machines.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Chojin on September 08, 2020, 12:59:47 PM
You know my thoughts already!
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: terry950sm on September 09, 2020, 05:14:53 PM
Do you not fancy the KTM 690
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on September 11, 2020, 07:35:40 AM
With all the Rally kit, yes.

I watch racestoplaces on YouTube and Basil bike is based on a KtM690.

That said the cost of changing a 690 and the maintenance intervals puts me off.

I reckon the T7 is the closest to a Dakar rally bike straight out of the box without being as highly strung.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Green_Ninja on September 11, 2020, 03:15:47 PM
Quote from: Dom1 on September 11, 2020, 07:35:40 AMWith all the Rally kit, yes.

I watch racestoplaces on YouTube and Basil bike is based on a KtM690.

That said the cost of changing a 690 and the maintenance intervals puts me off.

I reckon the T7 is the closest to a Dakar rally bike straight out of the box without being as highly strung.

you've just answered your question haven't you LOL get the T7
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Andy M on September 11, 2020, 08:02:56 PM
C'mon Dom get on with it fella 😎
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on February 22, 2021, 10:35:30 AM
Well that was an expensive weekend.

Deposit sent to a man I have never met for a bike I have only seen in pictures.

I think lockdown has made me a bit soft in the head.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Alzo on February 22, 2021, 03:57:55 PM
Make and model?
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on February 22, 2021, 04:29:26 PM
Yamaha T700, not the Rally edition but with plenty of extras.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Alzo on February 22, 2021, 05:24:28 PM
Quote from: Dom1 on February 22, 2021, 04:29:26 PMYamaha T700, not the Rally edition but with plenty of extras.
Sweet...😊
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: MOzZereLLa on February 22, 2021, 06:37:12 PM
Photos!!!!!!
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Jarse on February 22, 2021, 07:55:31 PM
Delighted for you Dom. Well deserved. Look forward to the pictures 😎
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on February 22, 2021, 08:23:36 PM
Not got it yet, but deposit paid.

Just sorting the logistics.

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Excited nervous at the prospect.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: 7550 on February 22, 2021, 10:34:54 PM
Nice one. May you have many happy and safe miles ahead. 🏍🏍🏍
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: DaveH on February 23, 2021, 08:01:46 AM
Awesome; enjoy :D
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: komp on February 23, 2021, 11:15:14 AM
good stuff, looks fun
have considered sticking knobblies on the 990, but suspect its a bit heavy for that type of thing :P
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: David W on February 23, 2021, 12:30:34 PM
Looks awesome with proper tyres, exhaust and a tail tidy but you'll be scraping mud off the back of your head 🤣
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on February 23, 2021, 02:18:47 PM
komp - You would be amazed what you see full GS1200 or Multistradas go up, down and over in the right hands.

They are a bugger to lift mind you.


Not worried about the mud, I am washable.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: the invisible dog on February 24, 2021, 11:46:22 AM
That looks rather smart :cool:
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on February 27, 2021, 11:08:52 AM
Scratch that, seller has had second thoughts and is returning my deposit.

New bike day on Wednesday is cancelled.

Arse.

That is all.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Jarse on February 27, 2021, 11:10:56 AM
What a shitter 😢
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Alzo on February 27, 2021, 11:52:04 AM
Quote from: Dom1 on February 27, 2021, 11:08:52 AMScratch that, seller has had second thoughts and is returning my deposit.

New bike day on Wednesday is cancelled.

Arse.

That is all.
Really!!....what a cunt.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Green_Ninja on February 27, 2021, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: Dom1 on February 27, 2021, 11:08:52 AMScratch that, seller has had second thoughts and is returning my deposit.

New bike day on Wednesday is cancelled.

Arse.

That is all.

Bollocks what a load of shit
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: DaveH on February 27, 2021, 12:15:31 PM
Quote from: Dom1 on February 23, 2021, 02:18:47 PMkomp - You would be amazed what you see full GS1200 or Multistradas go up, down and over in the right hands.

They are a bugger to lift mind you.


Not worried about the mud, I am washable.
:( That's rubbish :(
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: 7550 on February 27, 2021, 01:10:10 PM
Quote from: Dom1 on February 27, 2021, 11:08:52 AMScratch that, seller has had second thoughts and is returning my deposit.

New bike day on Wednesday is cancelled.

Arse.

That is all.

Cockwomble.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on February 27, 2021, 01:41:36 PM
Only sorted collecting on Wednesday yesterday. Genuinely gutted.

Nothing comparable available for the same money.

Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: MOzZereLLa on February 27, 2021, 04:07:23 PM
What an arse.

Can't make someone sell something I suppose.

Call him in a couple of months and see if he still has it. Smacks of a gazzumping to me.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: David W on February 27, 2021, 05:16:28 PM
Legally you had a contract - offer and acceptance - so you could probably pursue it if you were a twat and wanted a legal bill!
What a pain in the bollocks.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on February 27, 2021, 09:23:43 PM
The plot thickens, there may be a light at the end of the tunnel or it could be someone with a torch messing me about.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Alzo on February 27, 2021, 10:26:16 PM
Quote from: Dom1 on February 27, 2021, 09:23:43 PMThe plot thickens, there may be a light at the end of the tunnel or it could be someone with a torch messing me about.
Do tell.....
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: David W on February 28, 2021, 10:29:53 AM
Quote from: Dom1 on February 27, 2021, 09:23:43 PMThe plot thickens, there may be a light at the end of the tunnel or it could be someone with a torch messing me about.

Go with your first instincts. If it feels like you're being dicked around you probably are.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on February 28, 2021, 01:27:17 PM
Got my deposit refunded yesterday and sent the vendor a message to confirm and just asked him to let me know if he changed his mind.

Got a message back saying as I was now free on Wednesday would I like to come and see it. Bit odd as it was not for sale.

Anyway it turns out he had been out for a ride on his mates Royal Enfield and wants to buy that so the T700 is available again.

So we have agreed that I have first refusal on Wednesday, no deposit.

Will believe it when I see it but prepared to stick with it for now.

Think Dan had the right idea, buy from a dealer, pay full price, easy.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Alzo on February 28, 2021, 04:56:47 PM
I hope it works out...🤞🤞🤞🤞
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on March 01, 2021, 08:32:30 AM
Quote from: Dom1 on February 28, 2021, 01:27:17 PMThink Dan had the right idea, buy from a dealer, pay full price, easy.

I'm also far too impatient to wait, I'd have had it sat in my garage well before he'd had the chance to sit down with a brew and think....... "fuck".....

Regretted selling my Buell as it was being taken away. Glad now though, this new bike in infinitely better.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: DaveH on March 01, 2021, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: Dom1 on February 28, 2021, 01:27:17 PMGot my deposit refunded yesterday and sent the vendor a message to confirm and just asked him to let me know if he changed his mind.

Got a message back saying as I was now free on Wednesday would I like to come and see it. Bit odd as it was not for sale.

Anyway it turns out he had been out for a ride on his mates Royal Enfield and wants to buy that so the T700 is available again.

So we have agreed that I have first refusal on Wednesday, no deposit.

Will believe it when I see it but prepared to stick with it for now.

Think Dan had the right idea, buy from a dealer, pay full price, easy.

Fingers crossed for Wednesday...or....gazump him on the Royal Enfield; assuming it is the Himalayan! ;)
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: David W on March 01, 2021, 03:07:33 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on March 01, 2021, 08:32:30 AM
Quote from: Dom1 on February 28, 2021, 01:27:17 PMThink Dan had the right idea, buy from a dealer, pay full price, easy.

I'm also far too impatient to wait, I'd have had it sat in my garage well before he'd had the chance to sit down with a brew and think....... "fuck".....

Regretted selling my Buell as it was being taken away. Glad now though, this new bike in infinitely better.

I've felt that about two bikes: my SP2 and my ZRX1100. The SP2 because its now worth about £10K more than I paid for it, and the ZRX because it was 'ossum...
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on March 01, 2021, 11:19:49 PM
It is a Royal Enfield Interceptor, looks nice.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on March 03, 2021, 11:29:16 AM
Counting down to see if the deal goes through.

This is not good for my anxiety levels.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on March 03, 2021, 04:03:02 PM
Deal done and bike is safely in the care of Ninjaforce just about to hit the M3!

Excited much.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Jarse on March 03, 2021, 04:04:44 PM
Fantastic 😎🏍👍🏻
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: 7550 on March 03, 2021, 05:00:21 PM
Nice one. Enjoy.  :moto:  :moto:
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: m6rk on March 03, 2021, 09:12:05 PM
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Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on March 03, 2021, 10:18:16 PM
If only you knew someone who could oblige.

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Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: komp on March 04, 2021, 09:22:41 AM
noice!
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: DaveH on March 04, 2021, 01:13:56 PM
AWSUM!! :afro:  :moto:  :moto:
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Jarse on March 04, 2021, 01:24:34 PM
Do we know the lad on the DR Dom?

Looks familiar
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on March 04, 2021, 03:09:40 PM
That would be a certain m6rk of this parish.

The new custodian of the mighty DR.
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Jarse on March 04, 2021, 03:12:59 PM
I thought it looked like him but like most of us, although not you Dom, he's aged and looks considerably more distinguished than his formative years.

I didn't want to guess and potentially offended 😉
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on March 04, 2021, 05:50:07 PM
You can always spot M6rk a mile off in any photo....... he's the one who looks like he's being anally violated, doesn't want anyone to know, and yet is curiously OK with it.

Congratulations on the new wheels gentlemen....... stay safe y'slags.

Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: David W on March 04, 2021, 07:02:40 PM
If its M6rk, Dom probably ended up paying him to ride the DR away...
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Jarse on March 04, 2021, 08:12:51 PM
I recall he had a monobrow in his youth too.

DW, fair point.

LTtF the internal workings of your mind 😳
Title: Re: Considering a Change
Post by: Dom1 on March 15, 2021, 09:11:55 AM
Finally got a first ride at the weekend and on the road its a lovely ride, took in one local lane which was very muddy and wet and that will take a bit of getting used to.

Have to say I would have been wobbly on any bike in the same conditions but the extra weight of the bigger adventure style bike does not favour a timid approach.

Must ride it some more and bond with it, still feels like someone else's bike at the moment.