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General Discussions => Bike Talk => Topic started by: Carbon_ZX6R on April 17, 2016, 07:16:07 AM

Title: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on April 17, 2016, 07:16:07 AM
well the ktm (the second one) is sold

now I need to decide on a new bike problem is we are moving next week so said bike will be left outside the window on the path , chained the hell up of course

got about £2500 to play with just been offered a tlr1000r for £1650 which is a bit tempting ,but on the other hand I'm considering taking the b1h out of retirement and putting it back in road trim only problem is its been sat for the best part of 6 years am I going to be able to do everything that would be needed to it without a work shop?

I'm thinking all new fluids new battery new tyres new filters and checking all the bolts etc?
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Wallace12R on April 17, 2016, 08:53:13 AM
Don't buy the TLR, stick the B1 back in road trim and sell all the carbon crap. Remember why you kept it for so long in the first place.


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Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Wallace12R on April 17, 2016, 08:53:37 AM
Failing that, sell the bike and buy a new car like I've just had to do lol


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Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Andy M on April 18, 2016, 11:11:11 AM
get the b1h out and try and put it back in shape... we need the entertainment on here
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Gilby104 on April 18, 2016, 12:28:17 PM
Quote from: Andy M on April 18, 2016, 11:11:11 AM
get the b1h out and try and put it back in shape... we need the entertainment on here

+1
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on April 18, 2016, 03:57:17 PM
Well the b1h is insured once again......... For the sum of £22, 17 of which was an admin charge
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 07, 2016, 07:18:58 AM
Well Monday is the day I'll be picking the bike up.  Just hoping I can strap it down only ever transported in a wheel chock van , so to get the bike back on the road what should my plan of attack be , it has been left with fluids....
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: MOzZereLLa on July 07, 2016, 11:05:39 AM
Don't look at me and my new bike as I'm shy and boring.....
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 07, 2016, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 07, 2016, 07:18:58 AM
so to get the bike back on the road what should my plan of attack be , it has been left with fluids....

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on April 17, 2016, 07:16:07 AM
I'm thinking all new fluids new battery new tyres new filters and checking all the bolts etc?

If you ask for advice that you've previously already answered yourself...... and you ignore it...... will it cause a paradox in the space-time continuum and result in the universe imploding within a nanosecond?

Don't take the risk...... just do as you say......
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Gilby104 on July 07, 2016, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 07, 2016, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 07, 2016, 07:18:58 AM
so to get the bike back on the road what should my plan of attack be , it has been left with fluids....

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on April 17, 2016, 07:16:07 AM
I'm thinking all new fluids new battery new tyres new filters and checking all the bolts etc?

If you ask for advice that you've previously already answered yourself...... and you ignore it...... will it cause a paradox in the space-time continuum and result in the universe imploding within a nanosecond?

Don't take the risk...... just do as you say......

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Could it not be that if Carbon doesn't stay true to form the world as we know it will come to an end?
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 07, 2016, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: Gilby104 on July 07, 2016, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 07, 2016, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 07, 2016, 07:18:58 AM
so to get the bike back on the road what should my plan of attack be , it has been left with fluids....

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on April 17, 2016, 07:16:07 AM
I'm thinking all new fluids new battery new tyres new filters and checking all the bolts etc?

If you ask for advice that you've previously already answered yourself...... and you ignore it...... will it cause a paradox in the space-time continuum and result in the universe imploding within a nanosecond?

Don't take the risk...... just do as you say......

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Could it not be that if Carbon doesn't stay true to form the world as we know it will come to an end?
obviously I need to change the fluids but do I drain the fuel and drain oil cold or will that be a pain etc etc?


cant wait to get back on the b1h , I'm thankful carbon doesn't rust :)
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 07, 2016, 06:44:13 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 07, 2016, 02:12:08 PM
obviously I need to change the fluids but do I drain the fuel and drain oil cold or will that be a pain etc etc?

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on April 17, 2016, 07:16:07 AM
its been sat for the best part of 6 years.

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Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 10, 2016, 08:39:39 AM
well tomorrow is the day

so its going to be new headrace bearings
fork rebuild
shock service with new spring
steering damper rebuild
new wheel bearings
new tyres
new battery
new filters
new plugs
new oil
pray to god the meta alarm doesn't cause a problem....

think that will be everything...
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 10, 2016, 10:17:30 AM
Fresh fuel and hope the injectors aren't screwed, and new coolant.

Good day's work that
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 10, 2016, 11:15:12 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 10, 2016, 10:17:30 AM
Fresh fuel and hope the injectors aren't screwed, and new coolant.

Good day's work that
just going to drain the fuel out and the oil cold will take a while but I think its better than starting it with that crap in there
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: terry950sm on July 10, 2016, 01:28:20 PM
Pay someone to do the above jobs. Going from your past experiences it will save you a fortune.  ;)
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 10, 2016, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on July 10, 2016, 01:28:20 PM
Pay someone to do the above jobs. Going from your past experiences it will save you a fortune.  ;)
I am fully capable! Of the for mentioned tasks!
The alarm however may defeat me
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 10, 2016, 03:49:31 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 10, 2016, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on July 10, 2016, 01:28:20 PM
Pay someone to do the above jobs. Going from your past experiences it will save you a fortune.  ;)
I am fully capable! Of the for mentioned tasks!
The alarm however may defeat me
Aforementioned.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 10, 2016, 05:07:33 PM
Quote from: Alzo on July 10, 2016, 03:49:31 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 10, 2016, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on July 10, 2016, 01:28:20 PM
Pay someone to do the above jobs. Going from your past experiences it will save you a fortune.  ;)
I am fully capable! Of the for mentioned tasks!
The alarm however may defeat me
Aforementioned.
I don't even know how auto correct fucked that up
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 10, 2016, 05:14:38 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 10, 2016, 05:07:33 PM
Quote from: Alzo on July 10, 2016, 03:49:31 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 10, 2016, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on July 10, 2016, 01:28:20 PM
Pay someone to do the above jobs. Going from your past experiences it will save you a fortune.  ;)
I am fully capable! Of the for mentioned tasks!
The alarm however may defeat me
Aforementioned.
I don't even know how auto correct fucked that up
:pottytrain2:
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 13, 2016, 10:23:17 AM
well shes out of storage FEELING A BIT SORRY FOR HER SELF NEED TO DE-SPIDER HER

some how her tyres have held the same pressure

getting quite excited about putting her back on the road now , what I am a bit worried about is well I opened the tank and got hit with the smell I can only describe as varnish and there appears to be rust inside the tank , now do I need to do something about the rust? wont it clog the injectors?

obviously I'm going to drain the varnish/petrol

other thing is the chain and sprockets appear to be fine strill going to slap a new set on but might wait till after mot

Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: PJ on July 13, 2016, 11:23:35 AM
If there's rust inside the tank I would be very careful, and by careful I mean I'm a proper fanny and a bit of a fuckwit when it comes to mechanics and I wouldn't dream running the bike with even surface rust in the tank.

Don't elevate yourself above my status....  ;)
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 13, 2016, 11:51:54 AM
Quote from: PJ on July 13, 2016, 11:23:35 AM
If there's rust inside the tank I would be very careful, and by careful I mean I'm a proper fanny and a bit of a fuckwit when it comes to mechanics and I wouldn't dream running the bike with even surface rust in the tank.

Don't elevate yourself above my status....  ;)
that was my thinking that bits of rust will end up in the injectors?

well what are my options? id rather not replace the tank as its mint
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: PJ on July 13, 2016, 12:27:44 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 13, 2016, 11:51:54 AM
Quote from: PJ on July 13, 2016, 11:23:35 AM
If there's rust inside the tank I would be very careful, and by careful I mean I'm a proper fanny and a bit of a fuckwit when it comes to mechanics and I wouldn't dream running the bike with even surface rust in the tank.

Don't elevate yourself above my status....  ;)
that was my thinking that bits of rust will end up in the injectors?

well what are my options? id rather not replace the tank as its mint

I don't know if the tanks are coated inside in some way or have a treatment applied but I'd speak to a local garage and see if theres a way to safely remove the rust
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Gilby104 on July 13, 2016, 12:42:21 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 13, 2016, 10:23:17 AM
well shes out of storage FEELING A BIT SORRY FOR HER SELF NEED TO DE-SPIDER HER

some how her tyres have held the same pressure

getting quite excited about putting her back on the road now , what I am a bit worried about is well I opened the tank and got hit with the smell I can only describe as varnish and there appears to be rust inside the tank , now do I need to do something about the rust? wont it clog the injectors?

obviously I'm going to drain the varnish/petrol

other thing is the chain and sprockets appear to be fine strill going to slap a new set on but might wait till after mot

and edit out all  of this 'her' business before Danoir gets here!
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on July 13, 2016, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 13, 2016, 11:51:54 AM
Quote from: PJ on July 13, 2016, 11:23:35 AM
If there's rust inside the tank I would be very careful, and by careful I mean I'm a proper fanny and a bit of a fuckwit when it comes to mechanics and I wouldn't dream running the bike with even surface rust in the tank.

Don't elevate yourself above my status....  ;)
that was my thinking that bits of rust will end up in the injectors?

well what are my options? id rather not replace the tank as its mint


OK the old school way to deal with this is to take the tank off, remove pump find a way to seal the hole the pump goes in (was easier in the old days as there was only a filler cap and tap  ;) ) put some smallish nuts in the tank and a bit of clean oil, shake it like buggery to dislodge any rust. Then thoroughly wash it out to clear the loose bits. New filters in the fuel lines and pump in this case, fresh fuel and pray.

Now the varnish smell, this is what petrol does nowadays and why bikes with carbs can be a right PITA if they have been left stood. I would suggest flushing the fuel pipes etc through with clean fuel in the hope it clears off and varnish deposits.

There used the be a product called Petseal that was designed the coat and seal the inside of petrol tanks, no idea if it is still availabe.

Good luck.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 14, 2016, 07:31:27 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 13, 2016, 10:23:17 AM
well shes out of storage FEELING A BIT SORRY FOR HER SELF NEED TO DE-SPIDER HER

some how her tyres have held the same pressure

getting quite excited about putting her back on the road now , what I am a bit worried about is well I opened the tank and got hit with the smell I can only describe as varnish and there appears to be rust inside the tank , now do I need to do something about the rust? wont it clog the injectors?

obviously I'm going to drain the varnish/petrol

other thing is the chain and sprockets appear to be fine strill going to slap a new set on but might wait till after mot

Anyone who refers to a car or bike as her/she needs a thunder punch up the vagina......

'kin ell is wrong with people?
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 14, 2016, 07:32:46 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on July 13, 2016, 12:42:21 PM
and edit out all  of this 'her' business before Danoir gets here!

I love that you take notice of the shit I say....... we should be bezzies
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Dom1 on July 14, 2016, 09:32:19 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 14, 2016, 07:31:27 AM
Anyone who refers to a car or bike as her/she needs a thunder punch up the vagina......

'kin ell is wrong with people?


Is it acceptable to refer to your mighty stead as "The Beast" or is this also frowned upon?

Family history, came from an old motor launch of my Dad's that was notoriously a bitch to start then transferred to my first bike.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Gilby104 on July 14, 2016, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 14, 2016, 07:32:46 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on July 13, 2016, 12:42:21 PM
and edit out all  of this 'her' business before Danoir gets here!

I love that you take notice of the shit I say....... we should be bezzies

Are we not........


Sh1t
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 14, 2016, 09:59:02 AM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on July 13, 2016, 10:10:21 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 13, 2016, 11:51:54 AM
Quote from: PJ on July 13, 2016, 11:23:35 AM
If there's rust inside the tank I would be very careful, and by careful I mean I'm a proper fanny and a bit of a fuckwit when it comes to mechanics and I wouldn't dream running the bike with even surface rust in the tank.

Don't elevate yourself above my status....  ;)
that was my thinking that bits of rust will end up in the injectors?

well what are my options? id rather not replace the tank as its mint


OK the old school way to deal with this is to take the tank off, remove pump find a way to seal the hole the pump goes in (was easier in the old days as there was only a filler cap and tap  ;) ) put some smallish nuts in the tank and a bit of clean oil, shake it like buggery to dislodge any rust. Then thoroughly wash it out to clear the loose bits. New filters in the fuel lines and pump in this case, fresh fuel and pray.

Now the varnish smell, this is what petrol does nowadays and why bikes with carbs can be a right PITA if they have been left stood. I would suggest flushing the fuel pipes etc through with clean fuel in the hope it clears off and varnish deposits.

There used the be a product called Petseal that was designed the coat and seal the inside of petrol tanks, no idea if it is still availabe.

Good luck.
so your saying I will need a new fuel pump also?

just checked and there cheap thank fuck....
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 14, 2016, 12:24:27 PM
this is a stupid one is the tank steel or aluminium? I cant remember which if its steel I'm golden....
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 14, 2016, 12:29:59 PM


there seem to be actual liquids that are designed for this (acid based) but all the ones I have seen are not suitable for ally tanks


then I found this
I thought it was a joke
http://www.therevcounter.co.uk/threads/35994-Rust-Inside-Petrol-Tank-II-The-Test
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 14, 2016, 01:57:38 PM
It's a Kawasaki...cheap steel.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 14, 2016, 02:21:53 PM
Quote from: Alzo on July 14, 2016, 01:57:38 PM
It's a Kawasaki...cheap steel.
ahh that's good
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 15, 2016, 10:25:11 AM
well that's one yuasa battery ordered......

I refuse to scrimp on quality so this is going to hurt the old wallet
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 15, 2016, 11:36:03 AM
right the spark plugs had about 300 miles on them before it went into storage will they need replacing or just a clean?
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 15, 2016, 11:41:54 AM
Clean
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 15, 2016, 12:13:24 PM
Quote from: Alzo on July 15, 2016, 11:41:54 AM
Clean
well that saves a few bob I think ill order my oil and filter online after my local dealer insisting the kwak has 2 oil filters................

any places people order there filters and oil from?

can get 4ltr motorax and a k&n filter for £30 delivered
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Jonesy on July 15, 2016, 12:24:58 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 15, 2016, 12:13:24 PM
Any places people order there filters and oil from?
can get 4ltr motorax and a k&n filter for £30 delivered

Wemoto
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 15, 2016, 12:44:49 PM
well that's oil and filter ordered now , air filter should be ok after a wash now need some coolant , got to de rust the tank going to try the vinegar trick if it works it works if not there are other Homemade ways , don't fancy pouring acid in it if I'm honest but hey ho , once that's done ill fit a inline fuel filter just incase , and well I cant see exactly how rusted it is until the tanks drained
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on July 15, 2016, 05:34:06 PM

[/quote]
so your saying I will need a new fuel pump also?

just checked and there cheap thank fuck....
[/quote]


No where did I say you would need a new pump, I mentioned the fuel filter in the pump   :shocked:
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 15, 2016, 07:00:57 PM
Ooooo is that cleanable? I thought it was a sealed unit
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on July 15, 2016, 07:01:58 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 15, 2016, 07:00:57 PM
Ooooo is that cleanable? I thought it was a sealed unit

The ZX10r ones certainly are so can't see the ZX6R ones being any different
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 15, 2016, 07:03:56 PM
Cheers well it's worth a go I'll find out when I take it off , I'm really hoping it's only rusty where there was no fuel
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: R1ch on July 19, 2016, 02:37:13 PM
had to de-rust the inside of the tank on my trackbike last year
vinegar/coke didn't work, electrolysis did :)

1. remove the pump
2. mix soda crystals with water (to create an electrolyte) - got the soda crystals from local morrisions
3. fill tank with electrolyte
4. place iron rod into the solution via the fuel pump hole
The iron rod can't touch the tank. So a bit of electrical tape to insulate it round the pump hole.
5. Connect a 12v battery (or even a battery charger)
Positive to the iron rod
Negative to the tank
Every few hours take the iron rod out and clean it up. I changed the electrolyte a couple times so it was easier to see how things were progressing.
Once the bubbles stop, there is no longer a chemical reaction.

Do this in a well ventilated area. I did mine over a weekend.

(http://i57.tinypic.com/qntv68.jpg)

(http://i58.tinypic.com/dvgcxt.jpg)

(http://i60.tinypic.com/insk02.jpg)

(http://i59.tinypic.com/mkayh5.jpg)

plenty of youtube videos of the process

the rust in my tank was caused by fuel foam baffles.. at the top of the tank by the filler

take the pump apart and clean the tea bag filter and all will be good
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Dom1 on July 19, 2016, 02:52:49 PM
Witchcraft I tell thee.


Can't see Carbon managing that with burning his house down.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 19, 2016, 07:30:44 PM
Quote from: Dom1 on July 19, 2016, 02:52:49 PM
Witchcraft I tell thee.


Can't see Carbon managing that with burning his house down.
well that should even be even cheaper , and id imagine do a better job than the vinegar  I may just give that a go
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 19, 2016, 09:44:56 PM
I'm a bit worried about the old it's been in there 6 years , I can't imagine it's rusted in there but do i warm the engine to drain it , should I drain it then flush it through with cheap oil or well any ideas?
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 19, 2016, 10:21:38 PM
Drain it...put flushing oil through.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 19, 2016, 10:23:04 PM
Quote from: Alzo on July 19, 2016, 10:21:38 PM
Drain it...put flushing oil through.
Drain cold? Fill with cheap car oil just to flush it through then change filter and out correct oil in?
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 20, 2016, 06:38:26 AM
Warm it up...drain...buy Flushing oil...fill...run...drain...fill with proper specified oil.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 20, 2016, 07:32:15 AM
Quote from: Alzo on July 20, 2016, 06:38:26 AM
Warm it up...drain...buy Flushing oil...fill...run...drain...fill with proper specified oil.
Cheers for clearing that up I was a bit worried about even starting it with that oil due to the fact it's 7 years old...
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 20, 2016, 08:02:14 AM
Warm it...no need to allow engine to reach operating temperature...enough to think the oil...then out it comes. Flush oil will come with instructions.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 20, 2016, 08:04:56 AM
Quote from: Alzo on July 20, 2016, 08:02:14 AM
Warm it...no need to allow engine to reach operating temperature...enough to think the oil...then out it comes. Flush oil will come with instructions.
your saying there oil actually meant for flushing? this I did not know was just going to flush with car Castrol gtx
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 20, 2016, 11:00:19 AM
Yip...Flushing Oils available
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 20, 2016, 11:02:29 AM
Quote from: Alzo on July 20, 2016, 11:00:19 AM
Yip...Flushing Oils available
Just found one on eurocarparts for a tenner 4.5l so I'll get that
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 20, 2016, 12:21:37 PM
I'd avoid flushing oils on an older engine.

Oil tends to collect around the wear areas around shaft seals etc inside the engine, and while it's old oil, it does a job of plugging the wear. Flushes can remove these deposits and cause leaks.

I've had a few issues with this, so now I do what you originally suggested.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 20, 2016, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 20, 2016, 12:21:37 PM
I'd avoid flushing oils on an older engine.

Oil tends to collect around the wear areas around shaft seals etc inside the engine, and while it's old oil, it does a job of plugging the wear. Flushes can remove these deposits and cause leaks.

I've had a few issues with this, so now I do what you originally suggested.
Car oil flush it is then
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 20, 2016, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 20, 2016, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 20, 2016, 12:21:37 PM
I'd avoid flushing oils on an older engine.

Oil tends to collect around the wear areas around shaft seals etc inside the engine, and while it's old oil, it does a job of plugging the wear. Flushes can remove these deposits and cause leaks.

I've had a few issues with this, so now I do what you originally suggested.
Car oil flush it is then

but flushing oil will guarantee a nice clean engine.........

https://vimeo.com/129205411

Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Gilby104 on July 20, 2016, 01:09:43 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 20, 2016, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 20, 2016, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 20, 2016, 12:21:37 PM
I'd avoid flushing oils on an older engine.

Oil tends to collect around the wear areas around shaft seals etc inside the engine, and while it's old oil, it does a job of plugging the wear. Flushes can remove these deposits and cause leaks.

I've had a few issues with this, so now I do what you originally suggested.
Car oil flush it is then

but flushing oil will guarantee a nice clean engine.........

https://vimeo.com/129205411

Danior being given the willies by unexpected turn of events and Carbon following his advice!
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 20, 2016, 01:11:37 PM
Agreed but I'd prefer a slightly dirty fully functional engine.....
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 20, 2016, 01:24:59 PM
Quote from: Gilby104 on July 20, 2016, 01:09:43 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 20, 2016, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 20, 2016, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 20, 2016, 12:21:37 PM
I'd avoid flushing oils on an older engine.

Oil tends to collect around the wear areas around shaft seals etc inside the engine, and while it's old oil, it does a job of plugging the wear. Flushes can remove these deposits and cause leaks.

I've had a few issues with this, so now I do what you originally suggested.
Car oil flush it is then

but flushing oil will guarantee a nice clean engine.........

https://vimeo.com/129205411

Danior being given the willies by unexpected turn of events and Carbon following his advice!

in this litigious society we live in..... one simply cannot be too careful.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 20, 2016, 04:39:56 PM
Well that's 4l of Castrol gtx £13 if I'm going to flush it with car oil half decent can't hurt well hurt it less possibly , going to take the tank off tomorrow and try and do the electrolyte  , if I have time
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 20, 2016, 04:45:30 PM
If your engine cannot take a Flushing oil without issue then it's not worth shit.
I disagree with Dan in the strongest terms possible (I don't really...but aint them lovely words when all put together)
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 20, 2016, 05:13:39 PM
At times you really make it hard to follow advice.....
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: 7550 on July 20, 2016, 05:20:31 PM
Drain it cold. The oil will have settled in the sump by now. Leave it to drain for as long as you can.The longer the better. Overnight at least. If you have paddock stands, front and rear, put the bike up on the stands. Take oil filter off and let it drain from there too. After filling up with fresh oil, stab the starter button a couple of times to just get the new oil round the engine. You don't want the engine to start until the oil has reached all round the engine. Oil pressure light should go off. Once you have the oil circulated, start the engine. Let it tick over until the temperature is up before you start revving it.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 20, 2016, 05:53:16 PM
so much advise to choose from....
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: 7550 on July 20, 2016, 06:30:52 PM
What I said. And I don't believe in using a flushing oil, as I believe you don't drain all that completely, this leaving some in your engine to dilute the fresh oil you have just put in. If you want to flush it just use normal oil.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Gilby104 on July 20, 2016, 06:44:52 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 20, 2016, 05:13:39 PM
At times you really make it hard to follow advice.....

Got to give you that one Carbon..... your MO is a lot simpler on the whole.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 20, 2016, 06:45:49 PM
Read this:
http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html
It hurts to say this...a lot...but Grumpy and Dan may be right...God that hurt.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 21, 2016, 04:51:10 PM
Took the rear end off to put the battery in and the fucking alarm still works and so do the clocks etc I am quite shocked but over the moon was worried it would be immobilised , although I have noticed something my battery seems to be just plonked in a think something may be missing would someone with a b1h be able to share a photo of under the seat?
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: 7550 on July 21, 2016, 05:31:30 PM
Battery sits in it's own slot behind the fuel tank and under the riders seat. There is no straps needed to hold it in place. Once the seat is on it is not going anywhere.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 21, 2016, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: GRUMPY on July 21, 2016, 05:31:30 PM
Battery sits in it's own slot behind the fuel tank and under the riders seat. There is no straps needed to hold it in place. Once the seat is on it is not going anywhere.
I was starting to think that thought I remembered that being the case , cheers grumpy
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on July 21, 2016, 09:04:22 PM
If your engine can't take an oil flush, save your money on the oil and put it towards a bike that isn't a pile of shit.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 21, 2016, 09:35:54 PM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on July 21, 2016, 09:04:22 PM
If your engine can't take an oil flush, save your money on the oil and put it towards a bike that isn't a pile of shit.
Oh!!!!
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 21, 2016, 09:51:59 PM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on July 21, 2016, 09:04:22 PM
If your engine can't take an oil flush, save your money on the oil and put it towards a bike that isn't a pile of shit.

But how will he know, unless he uses the oil........
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 21, 2016, 09:55:03 PM
You have been given conflicting opinions....it's your bike...go with your gut...if it were my bike I would use Flushing Oil...I would want all the Gunk out...the end.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on July 21, 2016, 10:28:17 PM
or as an alternative buy some cheap bike specific smei synth engine oil, Halfords for example. Drain the current oil cold as per Davy's advice i.e on paddock stands overnight.
fit new oil filter, fill with the cheap semi synth, pull the plug leads off or take plugs out and spin the engine on the starter until the oil light goes out. Reconnect/refit plugs, start bike allow to idle untill the temp gets to about half way before revving, allow to run until fan kicks in, switch off and leave for 30 mins or more, Drain oil thoroughly, if you want to be really really sure fit another new oil filter, refill engine with quality bike specific semi synth oil of your choice (yes there's the age old argument about semi verus full synth but Kawasaki recommends Semi so go with that) as ong as all other checks have proved successful ride and enjoy.


Can't belive I've just typed all this becaus eas usual you will go your own way anyway  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 22, 2016, 05:45:52 AM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on July 21, 2016, 10:28:17 PM



Can't belive I've just typed all this becaus as usual you will go your own way anyway  ;) ;) ;)
I'm not even sure he's a real person.
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 22, 2016, 06:04:08 AM
I think what I'm going to do is drain it cold as it will be all in the sump so there may not be that munch gunk , it was fresh oil when it was last round the engine and it's just sat, I'm then going to put the Castrol gtx (car) and use that to flush out the rest
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 22, 2016, 06:14:09 AM
I'm only staying away from flushing solutions as I've read alot of bad things about them and when I enquired about flushing oil, on the back  "not recommended for use with motorcycles" if there is alot of gunk I'll have no real choice but I can always flush it later if its needed
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Wallace12R on July 22, 2016, 08:49:55 AM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on July 21, 2016, 10:28:17 PM
Kawasaki recommends Semi so go with that

I seem to remember Kawasaki recommending fully synth oil for the B1?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Andy M on July 22, 2016, 09:35:58 AM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on July 21, 2016, 10:28:17 PM
Can't belive I've just typed all this becaus eas usual you will go your own way anyway  ;) ;) ;)

+1

Got some spare olive oil in the kitchen?

carbon you don't half provide the entertainment value on here
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 22, 2016, 10:11:48 AM
I'm not ignoring anyone's advice its all very much appreciated and has all been taken on-board , there is risks to every option so I have to work out which one I think is the least
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: terry950sm on July 22, 2016, 11:04:42 AM
You could not make this up. Suppose it keeps the forum going.  ;)
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 22, 2016, 02:48:46 PM
Nice to see a Kawasaki issue for once...
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 22, 2016, 03:49:41 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 22, 2016, 02:48:46 PM
Nice to see a Kawasaki issue for once...

it was never a Kawasaki issue...... it's always been a 'you' issue.

never change.......
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 23, 2016, 06:10:48 PM
Tanks off , house stinks of petrol varnish now it's horrible , it is rusty but not as bad as I expected got a shit load out shaking it but what I've noticed is it's clumped and loose , the pump is caked in it as well going to scour that , not sure how to get to the filter on the pump though , so tomorrow I'll do the electrolysis just not sure how much soda crystals to use , i.e per litre
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 25, 2016, 09:18:22 AM
Currently doing the electrolysis started 5 mins ago so far no bubbles as best I can see? Using a jump starter and a tent peg so not sure if it takes a while to get bubbles
Title: Re: New Bike Time Or Old!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 25, 2016, 09:57:30 AM
mot entirely how but somehow the outside of the tank does not conduct I placed the negative on the tank and nothing  ive now put it on the bolt of the mount at the top of the tank(bit that bolts it to frame) put the positive electrode (multi metre) in the water and the other on the tank and there seems to be a tiny current ( and a couple of very small bubbles have appeared
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: terry950sm on July 25, 2016, 12:46:37 PM
Any pictures of the re-build/ re-fresh
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 25, 2016, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on July 25, 2016, 12:46:37 PM
Any pictures of the re-build/ re-fresh
A few I'll put up later , the fucking sump bolt just sheered off..... Managed to get it out luckily cheap magnetic one by the looks
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 25, 2016, 05:10:36 PM
here are some pictures of the bike during the rebuild , didn't take many as ive been to busy doing!

this is how she was when I took the bike out of storage
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160711_151729_zpsyp9grzex.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160711_151729_zpsyp9grzex.jpg.html)

here is the bike after I decided to get off my arse
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160723_154943_zpsbluvvhxf.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160723_154943_zpsbluvvhxf.jpg.html)

this is how it stands at the moment
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160725_122455_zpsdjk8dzl9.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160725_122455_zpsdjk8dzl9.jpg.html)

and this is the inside of the tank after the electrolysis , its not perfect but its a lot better, the photo is showing the bad bit
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160725_154816_zps9buje5tk.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160725_154816_zps9buje5tk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 26, 2016, 06:02:30 PM
The oils been draining for 48 hours I'm debating if I should  even flush it with car oil , there was no clumps what so ever and the oil was still brown .... And I'm not sure if the car oil would cause the clutch to slip or not...
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 27, 2016, 08:36:44 AM
I'm not happy with the tank I've taken the pump apart and rinsed the filter which is tea bag coloured now was quite a bit of rust in the sump attacked that with a wire brush , the tank rinses through clear now and alot of what looks like rust is crystallized petrol ,am I right in thinking as it's fuel injected I cant splice in an extra filter due to the pressure reduction caused by the filter, also am I correct in assuming that if some rust did make it past the pump filter it would potentially just clog the injectors as apposed to making it into the combustion chamber?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 27, 2016, 09:20:02 AM
New tank time love....... you're right in that the larger particles will get held back by both the filter and then the injectors, but before you know it, it'll be running like a bag of shite and you'll have killed your injectors...... and you'll end up doing it again.

What's more of an issue is the microscopic debris that WILL make it through to the combustion chamber. High revving engines don't cope well at all and the valves and seats tend to be quite soft when bombarded with small particles at high frequency....... and let's not forget the nature of the debris..... it's metal.

Do yourself a favour..... you dug deep for that, frankly, pointless carbon bling..... you owe it to the bike to sort this before you kill it and it ends up back in your shed or on ebay.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 27, 2016, 09:36:45 AM
Well this presents a problem I looked for a new tank and can't source even a reasonable condition one , I know there are other ways of deducting the tank I.e acid based chemicals and I have seen some guides online that have seen the most rusted tanks your likely to see come up spotless inside but then I have the trouble of recoating  the tank inside ,desposing of the acid without spilling it or getting it on the perfect paint , I'd probably chance it if I wasn't planning on keeping the bike but I don't want to sell it , the fuel pump will need some work and possibly replacing unless I can remove all the rusted parts and deep clean them , which I might be able too ,I might have to get a quote from a specialist to do the tank as your quite right Dan and it was my thinking as well that it could be fine tomorrow , next week or even for a year but eventually it's going to fuck it up , I'm going to have to put the new oil in and just leave it for a bit as I don't like the idea of leaving the engine dry
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 27, 2016, 02:09:11 PM
Think I need to give the electrolysis another go as the reaction was very weak and only lasted couple hours I was told a cap of soda crystals per litre I'm thinking that may have been wrong
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Jonesy on July 27, 2016, 05:33:45 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 27, 2016, 02:09:11 PM
Think I need to give the electrolysis another go as the reaction was very weak and only lasted couple hours I was told a cap of soda crystals per litre I'm thinking that may have been wrong

Is the hair growing back already?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 27, 2016, 05:42:54 PM
Not quite sure what you mean.  I haven't quite pulled it out from frustration yet
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Jonesy on July 27, 2016, 05:50:27 PM
Electrolysis for Hair Removal  :shocked:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 27, 2016, 05:56:19 PM
Quote from: Jonesy on July 27, 2016, 05:50:27 PM
Electrolysis for Hair Removal  :shocked:
Urrrgh walked into that one!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 27, 2016, 09:18:41 PM
With regards to the oil should I leave it dry or should I just put the oil and new filter in? But be unable to start it at the moment?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on July 27, 2016, 09:40:10 PM
May as well put the oil and filter in to be honest one less thing to forget to do later  ;)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 27, 2016, 09:42:25 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on July 27, 2016, 09:40:10 PM
May as well put the oil and filter in to be honest one less thing to forget to do later  ;)
Was just making sure it wouldn't cause problems by me not warming it up etc and properly doing it etc

Don't like the idea of it being dry , the tanks a big enough problem , I don't fancy stripping the engine
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 27, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Put the oil in...pull the spark plugs out...put the bike in fourth gear....push it for 1000 yards with the clutch out...then push it 1000 yards back...that will have built up the oil pressure and circulated it nicely.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on July 27, 2016, 10:18:12 PM
Quote from: Alzo on July 27, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Put the oil in...pull the spark plugs out...put the bike in fourth gear....push it for 1000 yards with the clutch out...then push it 1000 yards back...that will have built up the oil pressure and circulated it nicely.


Good idea that Alzo  :azn:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 27, 2016, 10:41:39 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on July 27, 2016, 10:18:12 PM
Quote from: Alzo on July 27, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Put the oil in...pull the spark plugs out...put the bike in fourth gear....push it for 1000 yards with the clutch out...then push it 1000 yards back...that will have built up the oil pressure and circulated it nicely.


Good idea that Alzo  :azn:
I thought so.  :azn:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 28, 2016, 06:34:44 AM
Quote from: Alzo on July 27, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Put the oil in...pull the spark plugs out...put the bike in fourth gear....push it for 1000 yards with the clutch out...then push it 1000 yards back...that will have built up the oil pressure and circulated it nicely.
I almost took that seriously
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 28, 2016, 06:38:29 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 28, 2016, 06:34:44 AM
Quote from: Alzo on July 27, 2016, 09:50:31 PM
Put the oil in...pull the spark plugs out...put the bike in fourth gear....push it for 1000 yards with the clutch out...then push it 1000 yards back...that will have built up the oil pressure and circulated it nicely.
I almost took that seriouslu
And so you should.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 28, 2016, 07:52:44 AM
Question is do I just put the new new filter on and dump the full 3.6l in or what as I can't start it so getting it to the correct level is easier said than done
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on July 28, 2016, 08:09:06 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 28, 2016, 07:52:44 AM
Question is do I just put the new new filter on and dump the full 3.6l in or what as I can't start it so getting it to the correct level is easier said than done

Pop the filter on, fill the oil to the upper mark, run the engine and then re-check the level. Some people put some oil in the filter before installing it but I've never bothered. Nothing has blown up yet.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 28, 2016, 08:11:24 AM
My problem was I can't start the engine....
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 28, 2016, 08:22:58 AM
Stick 3 litres in...turn the engine with plugs pulled to circulate...and when you are ready to fire up for real run until warm...cool it...top up as necessary.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 28, 2016, 08:45:47 AM
Quote from: Alzo on July 28, 2016, 08:22:58 AM
Stick 3 litres in...turn the engine with plugs pulled to circulate...and when you are ready to fire up for real run until warm...cool it...top up as necessary.
so pull the spark plugs stick it in gear and push it?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 28, 2016, 09:18:36 AM
I meant hook up a battery and turn it over using the Starter motor. All depends on how long you intend to let the bike sit before you're ready to run it again.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 28, 2016, 09:33:21 AM
Quote from: Alzo on July 28, 2016, 09:18:36 AM
I meant hook up a battery and turn it over using the Starter motor. All depends on how long you intend to let the bike sit before you're ready to run it again.
ahh I intend on it sitting there the least amount of time possible just need to tackle tank and pump as I cant put them on with rust , battery is connected, is the removal of the spark plugs essential?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on July 28, 2016, 09:46:26 AM
Fill it with oil and then rock it from side to side for an hour to get it around the engine
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: terry950sm on July 28, 2016, 10:04:55 AM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on July 28, 2016, 09:46:26 AM
Fill it with oil and then rock it from side to side for an hour to get it around the engine

Dont forget to shake it all about :cool:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 29, 2016, 04:10:30 PM
here we go again
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160729_132944_zpstlibxji1.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160729_132944_zpstlibxji1.jpg.html)

there are bubbles but the waters not the colour it was last time , but saying that I have put 2kg of soda crystals in it this time.........

well the bikes all but back together
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160729_155432_zpsxazltobu.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160729_155432_zpsxazltobu.jpg.html)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160729_155438_zpsstld6hut.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160729_155438_zpsstld6hut.jpg.html)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 29, 2016, 04:11:01 PM
still a fair bit of carbon...
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: terry950sm on July 29, 2016, 04:46:26 PM
Looks good......................................for a Kawasaki  ;)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 29, 2016, 06:34:46 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on July 29, 2016, 04:46:26 PM
Looks good......................................for a Kawasaki  ;)
Almost a compliment there Terry  :tongue:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 30, 2016, 10:58:26 AM
Finished the electrolysis again and there is no noticeable difference the water ran clear no flakes that I even noticed   ,is it possible that it's no longer rust but crystallized petrol as my understanding is electrolysis won't do anything to that?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2016, 07:58:42 AM
How do I get rid of the crystallized petrol? Is it harmful if left?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: MOzZereLLa on July 31, 2016, 08:36:21 AM
Just buy a new tank......
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2016, 09:06:26 AM
£941........ Otherwise I would other than the inside the tank is perfect as is the bike I can't even find a used green tank let alone a good condition one. Here is it after the 2nd electrolysis I'd say it looks worse , but it didn't budge anything this time and I did it for 5 times the length of time , I can only imagine that it's not rust in there now but varnished petrol
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160731_085634_zpsyhtkqnas.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160731_085634_zpsyhtkqnas.jpg.html)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2016, 09:19:32 AM
It definitely looks worse..... Not sure how that's possible.....
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2016, 09:31:52 AM
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160725_154816_zps9buje5tk.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160725_154816_zps9buje5tk.jpg.html)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160731_091656_zpszht35inp.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160731_091656_zpszht35inp.jpg.html)
Top one is after first electrolysis bottom is after second attempt wtf it's got worse!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: MOzZereLLa on July 31, 2016, 11:36:17 AM
Pay someone to refurbish your one.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2016, 12:28:09 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on July 31, 2016, 11:36:17 AM
Pay someone to refurbish your one.
I'd quite happily do that as I imagine there is a professional method , I have popped into and rang round countless places and nobody seems to know how to do it , I'm tempted to cut the tank sand the shit out of it remote the inside and weld it up but I'd rather not I'm currently exploring the donor bike route....... If that don't work I'll try one of the more aggressive home solutions "concentrated acid" coz at the end of the day a fucked tank is a fucked tank I suppose....
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Maddog on July 31, 2016, 01:41:30 PM
Is it worth trying it again? Like you said, a fooked tank is a fooked tank. Is the stuff inside solid? Could you fill it up with water and stick a jet was in to aggitate the stuff off?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2016, 04:27:12 PM
I'm going to try the electrolysis one more time , at the original mixture and I won't leave it over night , going to attack it with a steel paint stirrer and see if it comes off easy , I'll try the acid next if electrolysis doesn't help it sure can't make it worse
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on July 31, 2016, 07:56:53 PM
Bin it and buy a good secondhand one...or new.
And don't argue.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2016, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: Alzo on July 31, 2016, 07:56:53 PM
Bin it and buy a good secondhand one...or new.
And don't argue.
ive gone one better ive just bought another b1h........ (well won it) not paid for it yet

tatty fairings but good tank and lots of expensive parts including

Nitron Race Rear Shock
•Forks have K-Tech 20SSK Piston kit and Flow Control Valves.
•Ohlins Steering Damper
•HM Quickshifter
•Power Commander 3 USB
•Akrapovic Full Titanium Race System
•BMC Race Air Filter
•Accossato Front Master Cylinder
•Clutch has been replaced with a slipper clutch from the 05/06 ZX6R
•Meta Alarm + Immobiliser
•Gilles Rearsets
got it for a steal!

bloke should have spent sometime just tidying it up cosmeticly would have got a lot more from it , ill make a profit if I sell it on , or if I break it I should make alot
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2016, 08:11:22 PM
and it only cost me the price of 2 new tanks!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on July 31, 2016, 08:11:56 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2016, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: Alzo on July 31, 2016, 07:56:53 PM
Bin it and buy a good secondhand one...or new.
And don't argue.
ive gone one better ive just bought another b1h........ (well won it) not paid for it yet

tatty fairings but good tank and lots of expensive parts including

Nitron Race Rear Shock
•Forks have K-Tech 20SSK Piston kit and Flow Control Valves.
•Ohlins Steering Damper
•HM Quickshifter
•Power Commander 3 USB
•Akrapovic Full Titanium Race System
•BMC Race Air Filter
•Accossato Front Master Cylinder
•Clutch has been replaced with a slipper clutch from the 05/06 ZX6R
•Meta Alarm + Immobiliser
•Gilles Rearsets
got it for a steal!

bloke should have spent sometime just tidying it up cosmeticly would have got a lot more from it , ill make a profit if I sell it on , or if I break it I should make alot

seems to be a bit of an extreme way the sort your tank out, but hey whatever works  ;)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2016, 08:24:01 PM
Well it gets me a new tank plus a shed load of party bits for penny's , I looked high and low for a good condition used tank but lets be realistic most tanks for sale are off crashed bikes so the chances of finding a mint one wore slim so if all goes well I'll have a serviceable tank that may need a respray to get it perfect , and alot of performance parts and I'll still probably have a bit of cash in my pocket after its all done
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2016, 08:54:43 PM
Just found out I need to go onto an RAF base to collect it .... :cool:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on July 31, 2016, 11:22:03 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2016, 08:54:43 PM
Just found out I need to go onto an RAF base to collect it .... :cool:

which one?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 01, 2016, 06:25:00 AM
RAF benson
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 01, 2016, 07:05:20 AM
I am now wondering how I can remove a shock without an Abba stand.....
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: 7550 on August 01, 2016, 07:22:26 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 01, 2016, 07:05:20 AM
I am now wondering how I can remove a shock without an Abba stand.....

2 axle stands, or tie down straps if you have roof beams to support the bike.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 01, 2016, 07:25:27 AM
Quote from: GRUMPY on August 01, 2016, 07:22:26 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 01, 2016, 07:05:20 AM
I am now wondering how I can remove a shock without an Abba stand.....

2 axle stands, or tie down straps if you have roof beams to support the bike.
Axel stands are a brilliant idea didn't even think of that , I'll need 4 unfortunately as I'll be switching them
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 01, 2016, 08:18:11 AM
picking the donor bike up tomorrow

so I will be removing and fitting
nitron race shock
power commander
hm quickshifter
k tech fork piston kit (if I can work out how)
Accossato Front Master Cylinder (if its worth it? as ive never heard of them
so hopefully ill put my bike through mot end of the week

not sure if I should fit the ohlins steering damper as I have a hyperpro rsc damper fitted?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: terry950sm on August 01, 2016, 01:43:07 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 01, 2016, 07:05:20 AM
I am now wondering how I can remove a shock without an Abba stand.....

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/terrys/garagektm162.jpg)[/URL]

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/terrys/garagektm157.jpg)[/URL]
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Dom1 on August 01, 2016, 01:45:39 PM
How long until the "I dented my new tank when the bike fell off the stands fitting the new shock" post?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: MOzZereLLa on August 01, 2016, 10:10:32 PM
How do you know this tank is OK?  Did he send you photos of its interior?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 01, 2016, 10:55:54 PM
He's a pilot is his word not good enough? First thing I asked about the tank and he was honest about a couple of marks told me there's no rust and I'll be able to see that as it's on reserve , went into alot of detail about things I wouldn't have noticed which is always reassuring
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2016, 07:12:41 AM
Quote from: terry950sm on August 01, 2016, 01:43:07 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 01, 2016, 07:05:20 AM
I am now wondering how I can remove a shock without an Abba stand.....

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/terrys/garagektm162.jpg)[/URL]

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/terrys/garagektm157.jpg)[/URL]
right you have the shock off and I see the padock stand on the rear have you put the pipe through the swing arm to keep it steady? not 100% about how you have pulled the shock?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: MOzZereLLa on August 02, 2016, 07:52:14 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2016, 07:12:41 AM
Quote from: terry950sm on August 01, 2016, 01:43:07 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 01, 2016, 07:05:20 AM
I am now wondering how I can remove a shock without an Abba stand.....

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/terrys/garagektm162.jpg)[/URL]

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/terrys/garagektm157.jpg)[/URL]
right you have the shock off and I see the padock stand on the rear have you put the pipe through the swing arm to keep it steady? not 100% about how you have pulled the shock?


:rofl: :rofl:

Aahhhhhhhhahahahahahahahahahha - nice one.......
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2016, 08:19:44 AM
That was a joke.  But it's what it looks like to me
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 02, 2016, 10:07:29 AM
with the swing arm extended and the shock unloaded...... it simply unbolts love.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: terry950sm on August 02, 2016, 12:34:49 PM
Get someone to do it for you.  ;)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2016, 05:28:43 PM
well the bike and me survived the 100mile trip from raf benson (my phone however didn't)

the bikes in better condition than I thought and there are more bits on it to remove , the tank is in quite good condition if I'm honest which is good the rear shock can only be described as beautiful!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 03, 2016, 09:21:15 AM
photos will be uploaded shortly
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Andy M on August 03, 2016, 10:38:30 AM
what are you going to do with all the left over bits?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 03, 2016, 11:04:55 AM
Quote from: Andy M on August 03, 2016, 10:38:30 AM
what are you going to do with all the left over bits?

asking us where they go....... probably
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 03, 2016, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: Andy M on August 03, 2016, 10:38:30 AM
what are you going to do with all the left over bits?
The donor bike will be sold as a complete mostly bike a few bits will be sold , there will be a steering damper for sale , master cylinder possibly an akra
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 03, 2016, 05:42:55 PM
here is the donor b1h
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/IMG_20160803_170132_zpshel5aayo.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/IMG_20160803_170132_zpshel5aayo.jpg.html)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/IMG_20160803_170139_zpszfdp1fbu.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/IMG_20160803_170139_zpszfdp1fbu.jpg.html)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/IMG_20160803_170158_zps36kpvcy3.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/IMG_20160803_170158_zps36kpvcy3.jpg.html)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/IMG_20160803_170202_zpsdipvizxp.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/IMG_20160803_170202_zpsdipvizxp.jpg.html)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/IMG_20160803_170152_zpsh16gnwec.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/IMG_20160803_170152_zpsh16gnwec.jpg.html)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/IMG_20160803_170218_zpsp1ilbsnx.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/IMG_20160803_170218_zpsp1ilbsnx.jpg.html)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/IMG_20160803_170146_zpseadiwbrr.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/IMG_20160803_170146_zpseadiwbrr.jpg.html)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/IMG_20160803_170212_zps24byks35.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/IMG_20160803_170212_zps24byks35.jpg.html)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/IMG_20160803_170225_zpsxdjjxrm6.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/IMG_20160803_170225_zpsxdjjxrm6.jpg.html)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/IMG_20160803_170252_zpsylof4ud8.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/IMG_20160803_170252_zpsylof4ud8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 03, 2016, 05:46:11 PM
I do have some questions ,
what exactly do I have to do to remove the and then fit the quick shifter , and power commander , never put either in so not sure , shock I can work out and master cylinder I imagine its just swop then bleed brakes?

also I have a feeling the pistons in the forks might be hard to switch over?

also it has a full race akra as I thought mine did (it does not)

the link pipe is damaged as you can see in the photo how hard is it to get a replacement link pipe or have the dent removed? also would my end can and the race end can be the same or different?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Phil_8 on August 03, 2016, 06:31:00 PM
Why not keep that, then sell your other bike?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: 7550 on August 03, 2016, 07:14:47 PM
Swap the forks over.
Also, how did you think you had a full system on yours ?

Power commander is just plug and play. Follow the wiring till you find the multi plugs.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 03, 2016, 07:22:08 PM
Quote from: Phil_8 on August 03, 2016, 06:31:00 PM
Why not keep that, then sell your other bike?
Mine has 12k miles this has nearly 30k
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 04, 2016, 07:48:01 AM
Quote from: GRUMPY on August 03, 2016, 07:14:47 PM
Swap the forks over.
Also, how did you think you had a full system on yours ?

Power commander is just plug and play. Follow the wiring till you find the multi plugs.
Never really looked at mine close up but it does have titanium headers maybe it is a full system but it's different
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Dom1 on August 04, 2016, 08:53:06 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 03, 2016, 07:22:08 PM
Quote from: Phil_8 on August 03, 2016, 06:31:00 PM
Why not keep that, then sell your other bike?
Mine has 12k miles this has nearly 30k

But is in one piece and apparently working.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 04, 2016, 09:18:00 AM
Quote from: Dom1 on August 04, 2016, 08:53:06 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 03, 2016, 07:22:08 PM
Quote from: Phil_8 on August 03, 2016, 06:31:00 PM
Why not keep that, then sell your other bike?
Mine has 12k miles this has nearly 30k

But is in one piece and apparently working.
True but all mine is missing is a tank at the moment
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Dom1 on August 04, 2016, 09:40:49 AM
That is an important part and will improve your bike's performance.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 04, 2016, 09:44:06 AM
Quote from: Dom1 on August 04, 2016, 09:40:49 AM
That is an important part and will improve your bike's performance.
I know and if I add fuel to it also.... Coooor
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: terry950sm on August 04, 2016, 11:23:06 AM
I reckon you are a really nice person, to meet in the fiesh.  :azn:

Take the notice of the negativity and keep doing what you are doing. Bringing a smile to my face everytime I visit this Forum.  :azn:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 04, 2016, 06:45:49 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on August 04, 2016, 11:23:06 AM
I reckon you are a really nice person, to meet in the fiesh.  :azn:

Take the notice of the negativity and keep doing what you are doing. Bringing a smile to my face everytime I visit this Forum.  :azn:
As I've said before someone has to keep this place going

My bike has now got its new tank on and amazingly started instantly , topped the oil up , now I just need to drain the coolant and replace, change fluid in brakes and strip the callipers , I may switch the wheels over as the donor bike has newish supercorsas on it , I've removed the ohlins damper I think I'll sell that and keep my hyperpro as in my opinion it's better
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on August 04, 2016, 07:40:23 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on August 04, 2016, 11:23:06 AM
I reckon you are a really nice person, to meet in the fiesh.  :azn:

Take the notice of the negativity and keep doing what you are doing. Bringing a smile to my face everytime I visit this Forum.  :azn:
Is he a real person though...I keep asking myself.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 04, 2016, 08:16:53 PM
Other than the nuts and bolts holding me together  ;)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Andy M on August 05, 2016, 09:45:34 AM
you will end up with a load of nuts and bolts left over after you have done all this
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 05, 2016, 10:34:06 AM
Quote from: Andy M on August 05, 2016, 09:45:34 AM
you will end up with a load of nuts and bolts left over after you have done all this
So far I don't have a single but or bolt that I don't know what it's for , probably first time that's ever happend
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Maddog on August 05, 2016, 05:58:46 PM
Carbon is the Donald Trump of this forum. Crazy but makes perfect sense.  :evil:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 05, 2016, 06:47:39 PM
Quote from: Maddog on August 05, 2016, 05:58:46 PM
Carbon is the Donald Trump of this forum. Crazy but makes perfect sense.  :evil:
Don't forget highly controversial!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on August 05, 2016, 07:15:57 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 05, 2016, 06:47:39 PM
Quote from: Maddog on August 05, 2016, 05:58:46 PM
Carbon is the Donald Trump of this forum. Crazy but makes perfect sense.  :evil:
Don't forget highly controversial!
Not real?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: MOzZereLLa on August 06, 2016, 10:33:07 AM
It's toypop
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 08, 2016, 07:18:45 AM
tried to attempt the shock swop yesterday but realised I cant use my mx stand so I will have to get another pair of axle stands..... :(
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 08, 2016, 07:51:47 AM
Going to book it in for not today (it's up the road) is it safe from a damage to bike point of view to ride it with the old coolant and old brake fluid in? Will it cause any damage etc? Other than say overheating
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Andy M on August 08, 2016, 09:49:57 AM
I'm impressed that your post this morning was not along the lines of - trapped under bike for 2 hours, spent sunday in hospital, no progress with bike  ;)

we need more pictures man
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 08, 2016, 09:56:05 AM
Quote from: Andy M on August 08, 2016, 09:49:57 AM
I'm impressed that your post this morning was not along the lines of - trapped under bike for 2 hours, spent sunday in hospital, no progress with bike  ;)

we need more pictures man
well its booked in for 10am tomorrow for mot

there will be more photos not much to take photos of right this second as both bikes are fully assembled (mine is fully back in road trim)

I cant see any negatives of riding (4 mile round trip) with old coolant other than it might not cool as effective , I may be wrong?

and if the fluids gone funny in the brakes , I only suggest this as I want to do everything in one go as I'm fed up with tank on tank off , fairing on fairing off already

the beauty of working nights I can get stuff done in the day if not somewhat tired , so I'm off now to get another set of axle stands
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on August 08, 2016, 04:43:36 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 08, 2016, 07:51:47 AM
Going to book it in for not today (it's up the road) is it safe from a damage to bike point of view to ride it with the old coolant and old brake fluid in? Will it cause any damage etc? Other than say overheating

as is always said if you are going to do a job do it properly. Why rush the MOT wait until you have done all the work or you'll never finish it.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 08, 2016, 09:58:30 PM
It will get done don't worry about that just want it all taxed and everything ready to go etc , the new indicators are on , look really good and was only 6 of quid for them I'm a bit surprised though there led but there flashing normally , yet I have a stock relay
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 09, 2016, 11:09:56 AM
bike passed , shouldn't have though as a bolt in the clutch perch was missing , my mot bloke said it sheered but on closer inspection by my self it wasn't there so that's been replaced and tightened , only advisory's wore near legal tred and near legal limit on brake pads , now fuck me I didn't expect it but it road like an absolute dream , and I'm not sure how but the brakes are a lot sharper than the doner bike with its acossato m/c , still feels like a new bike to ride, off to tax it now , then it will be coolant then going to sdo brakes when I order new pads


on that note I'm thinking of swoping the callipers it did have brembos on before I started selling bits , what newer brakes have people put on there bikes?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 09, 2016, 01:25:16 PM
also with regards to the coolant , what exactly should I be putting in the bike as there seems to me a million different types?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 11, 2016, 01:46:01 PM
coolants changed , might have made a booboo by not changing the fucking drain washers , but its done now and doesn't seem to leak when running so I may be lucky , didn't put as much coolant in as I expected exactly 2 litres....
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 07:03:21 AM
Well that's the rear end done with the exception of the new shock , think it looks rather snazzy
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160826_070017_zpstmg8cvic.jpg)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Jonesy on August 26, 2016, 09:12:04 AM
It passed with that tail light, and no rear reflector?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 09:22:21 AM
Quote from: Jonesy on August 26, 2016, 09:12:04 AM
It passed with that tail light, and no rear reflector?
Didn't pass with that tail light as not fitted at time why shouldn't it have passed? But it did pass with small plate and no reflector
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: PJ on August 26, 2016, 09:34:50 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 09:22:21 AM
Didn't pass with that tail light as not fitted at time why shouldn't it have passed?

I'm fairly sure any tinting of light units is a big no no, not down to discretion, but a complete no no. I could be wrong however.

I've never understood why people would wanna put tiny indicators and reduce the amount of light given off by their lights on a bike. Car drivers seem to have a hard enough time spotting us as it is....  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 09:46:10 AM
My understanding was not to tint headlight but tail lights are acceptable as long as they still emit sufficient light , some Harley's come with tinted rear lights as standard mine did and it was a factory part , them indicators are quite good if I'm honest nice and bright and there not as small as they look , magically I didn't need any resisters for them or a relay not bad for sub tenner indicators , only did the rear light to go with the indis only £15 delivered and OEM plug , not sure how to wire the inbuilt indicators in but that wasn't why I bought it
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: PJ on August 26, 2016, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 09:46:10 AM
My understanding was not to tint headlight but tail lights are acceptable as long as they still emit sufficient light , some Harley's come with tinted rear lights as standard mine did and it was a factory part , them indicators are quite good if I'm honest nice and bright and there not as small as they look , magically I didn't need any resisters for them or a relay not bad for sub tenner indicators , only did the rear light to go with the indis only £15 delivered and OEM plug , not sure how to wire the inbuilt indicators in but that wasn't why I bought it

I always thought tinted lights were a no no regardless, but I'm probably wrong. Personally I still wouldn't do it, theres enough idiots on the roads without making myself less visible lol
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 26, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Did the MOT tester not slap you in the face for the number plate slogan?

I think they're supposed to do that.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Dom1 on August 26, 2016, 10:43:25 AM
I believe the requirement is that you prove it or get slapped.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 10:53:11 AM
Quote from: PJ on August 26, 2016, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 09:46:10 AM
My understanding was not to tint headlight but tail lights are acceptable as long as they still emit sufficient light , some Harley's come with tinted rear lights as standard mine did and it was a factory part , them indicators are quite good if I'm honest nice and bright and there not as small as they look , magically I didn't need any resisters for them or a relay not bad for sub tenner indicators , only did the rear light to go with the indis only £15 delivered and OEM plug , not sure how to wire the inbuilt indicators in but that wasn't why I bought it

I always thought tinted lights were a no no regardless, but I'm probably wrong. Personally I still wouldn't do it, theres enough idiots on the roads without making myself less visible lol
I agree with you ,noon as I got it I compared to see if it was noticeavly dimmer and it's not really if I'm honest still brighter than most
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on August 26, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Did the MOT tester not slap you in the face for the number plate slogan?

I think they're supposed to do that.
NA he never pays attention to my number plates just makes me get them out the shop quick
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: PJ on August 26, 2016, 11:03:22 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on August 26, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Did the MOT tester not slap you in the face for the number plate slogan?

I think they're supposed to do that.
NA he never pays attention to my number plates just makes me get them out the shop quick

He knows you well then....
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Jonesy on August 26, 2016, 12:16:57 PM
Quote from: PJ on August 26, 2016, 11:03:22 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on August 26, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Did the MOT tester not slap you in the face for the number plate slogan?

I think they're supposed to do that.
NA he never pays attention to my number plates just makes me get them out the shop quick
He knows you well then....

I also bet it's nothing to do with the numberplate why he's trying to get rid of you   :shocked:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 26, 2016, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: Jonesy on August 26, 2016, 12:16:57 PM
Quote from: PJ on August 26, 2016, 11:03:22 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on August 26, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Did the MOT tester not slap you in the face for the number plate slogan?

I think they're supposed to do that.
NA he never pays attention to my number plates just makes me get them out the shop quick
He knows you well then....

I also bet it's nothing to do with the numberplate why he's trying to get rid of you   :shocked:

I just imagine him following the poor bloke around his workshop like a child......
"what's that?...... why?...... why?...... why?"
"where does the oil go?"
"why does my bike have 2 wheels and not 9?"
"who would win in a fight, superman, or a kawasaki?"

Then walking out with a plaster on his arm and a lolly..........
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: PJ on August 26, 2016, 02:11:36 PM
Dan's post just made me think of this for some reason....

https://www.youtube.com/v/6XVo09I2hSs
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 26, 2016, 02:18:13 PM
Quote from: PJ on August 26, 2016, 02:11:36 PM
Dan's post just made me think of this for some reason....

oh god...... cue various technical questions relating to butt plugs and the positioning, lubricating and cooling thereof.

Doubtless someone will make them in carbon fibre
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: PJ on August 26, 2016, 02:27:00 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on August 26, 2016, 02:18:13 PM
Quote from: PJ on August 26, 2016, 02:11:36 PM
Dan's post just made me think of this for some reason....

oh god...... cue various technical questions relating to butt plugs and the positioning, lubricating and cooling thereof.

Doubtless someone will make them in carbon fibre

:rofl:

Will a carbon butt plug pass an MOT? Is there a minimum depth requirement?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 06:57:28 PM
And I thought this was a safe place!!!!!!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 26, 2016, 06:59:31 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 26, 2016, 06:57:28 PM
And I thought this was a safe place!!!!!!

in as much as a padded cell is for a complete mentalist....... but you keep running head first in to the walls
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: mc101 on August 27, 2016, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 11, 2016, 01:46:01 PM
coolants changed , might have made a booboo by not changing the fucking drain washers , but its done now and doesn't seem to leak when running so I may be lucky , didn't put as much coolant in as I expected exactly 2 litres....

Never drain coolant via a drain washer - always the lowest hose / jubilee.  It'll always weep from there now :-)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on September 06, 2016, 02:59:22 PM
well they arrived only ordered yesterday
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160906_144634_zpsmhftb3ln.jpg)

should now have everything to do the zx6rs all at once instead of doing bits left right and centre
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on September 13, 2016, 01:01:02 PM
right am I being stupid  rear wheel removal  , remove split pin from nut and brute force? ive put so much force into it ive lifted it off the stand it wont budge , tell me I'm missing something
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Wallace12R on September 13, 2016, 01:08:31 PM
Muscle, that's what you're missing.


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Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on September 13, 2016, 01:15:37 PM
lefty loosey, righty tighty
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on September 13, 2016, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: Wallace12R on September 13, 2016, 01:08:31 PM
Muscle, that's what you're missing.


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I assure you I'm not , got the misses to lean on the seat and I still lifted it off the paddock stand , so I don't need to loosen the adjuster bolts? just split pin out and brute force?  going to break my ratchet if I use much more
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Jonesy on September 13, 2016, 01:47:15 PM
Stop being a pussy and stamp on the thing! You may need a breaker bar opposed to a ratchet!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on September 13, 2016, 02:01:30 PM
Quote from: Jonesy on September 13, 2016, 01:47:15 PM
Stop being a pussy and stamp on the thing! You may need a breaker bar opposed to a ratchet!
I thought someone may say that....
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Phil_8 on September 13, 2016, 04:00:07 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on September 13, 2016, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: Wallace12R on September 13, 2016, 01:08:31 PM
Muscle, that's what you're missing.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I assure you I'm not ,

Alright! Charlie Big Potatoes

Length is what you need. Plenty of leverage. Especially if it was put on with a gun without much care for proper torque settings
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on September 13, 2016, 04:17:10 PM
Quote from: Phil_8 on September 13, 2016, 04:00:07 PM

Alright! Charlie Big Potatoes


Sounds like he's more Charlie New Potatoes
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Gilby104 on September 13, 2016, 04:18:51 PM
What we do know is he's lacking length!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on September 13, 2016, 05:07:01 PM
My breaker bar is 30 inch I'll have you know!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Gilby104 on September 13, 2016, 05:23:55 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on September 13, 2016, 05:07:01 PM
My breaker bar is 30 inch I'll have you know!

All torque and no trousers ;)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: 7550 on September 13, 2016, 05:31:21 PM
Push down on the bar rather than pulling it up.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on September 13, 2016, 06:16:41 PM
Quote from: GRUMPY on September 13, 2016, 05:31:21 PM
Push down on the bar rather than pulling it up.
Ya know after coming back inside having been defeated I thought why the fuck didn't I do it  the other way

Now I say that I did try it pushing down and still didn't budge
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on September 13, 2016, 07:13:43 PM
right taken the acossato m/c off the bike to put on mine removed the brake switch hoping to use it but noticed it was the over the mudguard brake line set up so need a different banjo switch
I need the double banjo am I correct that the the one in link is the  same connection if I just pull the white plug off?

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160913_190706_zpsjhjsobfv.jpg)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Hydraulic-Double-Banjo-Bolt-Brake-Pressure-Light-Switch-M10-x-1-00mm-/152238957622?hash=item2372262436:g:0iQAAOSwi0RX1pnW

another problem is do I need the m10 x m1 or the m10 x m1.25
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on September 18, 2016, 09:58:42 AM
well this should budge that dam nut if not I have a problem
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160918_095515_zpserucixqx.jpg)

then all I need to do is work out how on earth to use my new torque wrench (only ever had digital ones)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on September 18, 2016, 03:07:55 PM
well this is what I did today.........
got the breaker bar on it and it undid very easily and then I powered on
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160918_145639_zps6nwya3ye.jpg)
them centre work stands are bloody brilliant
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160918_145752_zpsyiygxssv.jpg)
switched the rear wheel over and the shock now running a 180 60 17 on the rear  over the 55 looks a lot bigger

then as if like magic both bikes put back together ,
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160918_145821_zpsjyiyk0jl.jpg)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on October 10, 2016, 08:17:29 AM
right the forks have been switched over ,  ran into a problem with one calliper being seized to the mount so had to switch them also fitted the ones from the donor bike to mine and they appear to be rubbing(no lines connected or fluid) although all the fluid wouldn't drain from the nipple for some reason) and when I turn the wheel at a certain point there is a clink , ive checked my disks and cant see or feel anything , any idea what's causing this I'm not to good with brakes
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Andy M on October 10, 2016, 08:44:49 AM
can you fit the other wheel with discs into your and see if the problem is eliminated? If so you might have warped disc on yours which wasn't showing up with brake pads that were less worn and sat further apart from the disc in the calipers.
Or possibly the wheel and disc in the donor is not from that bike but something else that fits that year and the gap to discs is slightly different?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on October 10, 2016, 08:59:39 AM
Quote from: Andy M on October 10, 2016, 08:44:49 AM
can you fit the other wheel with discs into your and see if the problem is eliminated? If so you might have warped disc on yours which wasn't showing up with brake pads that were less worn and sat further apart from the disc in the calipers.
Or possibly the wheel and disc in the donor is not from that bike but something else that fits that year and the gap to discs is slightly different?
I suppose it could be warped disks mine had no meat left on the pads and these have loads and it only seems to be the right disk . although the disks on my bike have only done 13k , ( the wheels are identical as are the disks the all oem)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on October 10, 2016, 11:11:31 AM
ill check the disks hopefully tomorrow if I have time , if its not the disks what are the other possibility's? if I'm having to replace the disks for the price of them I might as well get a 320mm conversion kit ,with brembo m4 callipers , but I'm not sure how the m4 is as a calliper but if they do need replacing it has to be an upgrade or I begrudge the bike the money
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on October 18, 2016, 08:32:57 PM
not had time to check the disks properly but did have a look and the offending calliper just doesn't look right the pads don't seem to sit how they should

very hard to see in the photo
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161018_125036_zpsptm9cjde.jpg)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on October 18, 2016, 09:49:07 PM
you could at least have given them a clean
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on October 28, 2016, 03:25:20 PM
right I switched the wheels over it is still doing the sound I recorded it best turn volume up
http://vid1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/VID_20161028_092731_zpsr8iemtsd.mp4

in my opinion its not the disks both wore fine before they wore switched over but the callipers off the diner bike looked fucked , could it have anything to do with the pads just not sitting right?

also tried to drain the rear mc and res via the bleed nipple and nothing? had old fluid in it , is it just gunked up or am I doing it wrong?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Maddog on October 28, 2016, 07:11:38 PM
If youre happy with the wheels and discs being true, then change the pads and see if that helps. Personally, unless its effecting the bikes braking id not be too worried

Re the rear caliper, id use an eeziebleed type device which pushes fluid through under pressure from the M/C. Ive got one you can borrow if you dont want to buy one. Id need it back asap though as i need to do my car at some point
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on October 28, 2016, 07:40:37 PM
I've got a mity vac like thing(is that similar?) that sucks it out and it didn't budge the fluid out the res , ordered a new hrc res and it's gunked to hell , I do need to sort the front brakes and see if they are biting, I want to change the calipers just not sure what ones to use , I'd like a direct bolt on if possible
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Maddog on October 28, 2016, 07:51:41 PM
Well the calipers on the B1/K1 are the same as the 04/05 ZX10 and i know a direct replcement is the ZX6r/ZZR Nissin Calipers as i have them on my 04 ZX10. I picked mine up for about 80 quid so may be worth a punt. The Nissin calipers are much better than the standard Tokico calipers

Mittyvac i presume sucks? The eeziebleed pushes and is used at about 20 psi. Id give the eezie bleed a go as ive never had an issue with it
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Maddog on October 28, 2016, 07:56:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoCV6JSxzH0
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 01, 2016, 04:22:37 PM
I may try something like that when I've got time , with me starting new job Monday my times going to be less free , I've searched high and low for the missing zx6r calipers there rare as shit and the ones you can get are a fair bit , plenty of later zx10r calipers don't suppose they fit? I don't mind having to buy spacers and longer bolts but I don't want to machine anything , options people?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Maddog on November 02, 2016, 12:04:29 AM
On my 2004 ZX10 the direct replacement for the std calipers were the 2009 ZX6/ZZR1400  Nissin calipers.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Maddog on November 02, 2016, 12:20:58 AM
So Gen 3 ZX6R calipers should fit.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 02, 2016, 01:14:02 AM
Quote from: Maddog on November 02, 2016, 12:20:58 AM
So Gen 3 ZX6R calipers should fit.
problem with that is there rare as fuck , the nissin callipers are very few and far between ive seen sets go for between £150-£250
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on November 02, 2016, 04:40:33 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 02, 2016, 01:14:02 AM
Quote from: Maddog on November 02, 2016, 12:20:58 AM
So Gen 3 ZX6R calipers should fit.
problem with that is there rare as fuck , the nissin callipers are very few and far between ive seen sets go for between £150-£250


they're  NOT THERE
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on November 02, 2016, 06:47:34 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on November 02, 2016, 04:40:33 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 02, 2016, 01:14:02 AM
Quote from: Maddog on November 02, 2016, 12:20:58 AM
So Gen 3 ZX6R calipers should fit.
problem with that is there rare as fuck , the nissin callipers are very few and far between ive seen sets go for between £150-£250


they're  NOT THERE
And "rare as Hens teeth"...not "fuck"
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 02, 2016, 06:54:18 PM
I normally frase it as rocking horse shit..
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on November 02, 2016, 06:54:58 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 02, 2016, 06:54:18 PM
I normally frase it as rocking horse shit..

PHRASE - for fucks sake
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 02, 2016, 06:57:07 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on November 02, 2016, 06:54:58 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 02, 2016, 06:54:18 PM
I normally frase it as rocking horse shit..

PHRASE - for fucks sake
Now I must admit that one was deliberate...
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 02, 2016, 08:45:00 PM
Found these
Look at this on eBay  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201701075459

Any ideas if they will fit without being machined , spacers are not a problem
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 03, 2016, 08:08:28 PM
You lot are not as helpful as you once was! Well if the credit card gets approved it will be 320mm disks and brembo m4 monoblocs.........
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on November 03, 2016, 08:20:10 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 03, 2016, 08:08:28 PM
You lot are not as helpful as you once was! Well if the credit card gets approved it will be 320mm disks and brembo m4 monoblocs.........
Discs
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Jonesy on November 03, 2016, 08:41:51 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 03, 2016, 08:08:28 PM
You lot are not as helpful as you once was!

were
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: greenmeeny on November 04, 2016, 02:30:41 PM
Loads of help with grammar.

3rd gen nissins, as you call them, will fit.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 04, 2016, 05:24:45 PM
Are they the 2010-2013 era ones?

O dear the credit card has just been approved...........
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Maddog on November 05, 2016, 11:20:25 PM
Gen 3 is 09-12
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 06, 2016, 06:05:03 AM
Quote from: Maddog on November 05, 2016, 11:20:25 PM
Gen 3 is 09-12
Thanks maddog
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 06, 2016, 06:30:26 AM
Finding a set in unscored condition is very hard seem few and far between , but I'll find some
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Andy M on November 11, 2016, 11:37:14 AM
what happened with this in the end?
Did you manage to sell the other bike?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 11, 2016, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: Andy M on November 11, 2016, 11:37:14 AM
what happened with this in the end?
Did you manage to sell the other bike?
not tried been slower than id like with other commitments it is nearing the end the doner bike is all but back together , its had a good going over with a fair bit replaced (corroded parts)

my bike is almost ready , will be fitting brand new brembo callipers and brand new 320mm discs in the next couple weeks
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 15, 2016, 09:13:03 PM
Well the new calipers and discs are in the post! 😎
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Andy M on November 16, 2016, 10:21:08 AM
april 2017 its first outing?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 16, 2016, 02:00:14 PM
Pfft will it fuck! , Next week hopefully providing I manage to get some brake lines
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 19, 2016, 07:07:18 PM
Well Christmas came early this year.....

(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161119_190721_zps8lx7v7qs.jpg)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161119_190744_zpsu98wuxpb.jpg)

Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: MOzZereLLa on November 20, 2016, 09:44:17 AM
Nice (nothing like overkill on a super sport machine) - are they genuine?  Lots of fakes out there  :rofl:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on November 20, 2016, 09:57:46 AM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 20, 2016, 09:44:17 AM
Nice (nothing like overkill on a super sport machine) - are they genuine?  Lots of fakes out there  :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 20, 2016, 10:59:24 AM
Yes there real haha , only slight overkill.....
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 20, 2016, 10:59:52 AM
Just need to try and get some new lines for them
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: terry950sm on November 20, 2016, 01:31:56 PM
I bet that lot cost lots of £££££££££££££££
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 20, 2016, 01:38:21 PM
Not as much as it should have haha but no wasn't cheap but it's worth it so much else I've done , so why not
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 20, 2016, 09:47:28 PM
Only annoying thing is now I'm working for a massive faceless corporation once again , it's hard to find the time to fit them
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 21, 2016, 08:05:31 AM
£34 for a set of disc bolts!!! When did everything get so bloody expensive!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Phil_8 on November 21, 2016, 11:02:29 AM
I'm still not 100% on exactly what you are doing any why

You have 2 B1's and you are making a third out of individual parts you are sourcing online?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Andy M on November 21, 2016, 11:23:20 AM
I think he said he just needs a tank to finish off bike number 4?!

Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 21, 2016, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: Phil_8 on November 21, 2016, 11:02:29 AM
I'm still not 100% on exactly what you are doing any why

You have 2 B1's and you are making a third out of individual parts you are sourcing online?
I have my bike and a donor bike , and I've decided I needed new vrakes for my bike
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on November 21, 2016, 02:28:32 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 21, 2016, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: Phil_8 on November 21, 2016, 11:02:29 AM
I'm still not 100% on exactly what you are doing any why

You have 2 B1's and you are making a third out of individual parts you are sourcing online?
I have my bike and a donor bike , and I've decided I needed new vrakes for my bike
Brakes
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 21, 2016, 06:15:06 PM
I was in a meeting I had to rush the reply! Brakes wore shot so decided to replace them , just had a 3 line hel brake line set agreed for £60 delivered o the perks of managing someone's business account!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on November 21, 2016, 09:05:05 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 21, 2016, 06:15:06 PM
I was in a meeting I had to rush the reply! Brakes wore shot so decided to replace them , just had a 3 line hel brake line set agreed for £60 delivered o the perks of managing someone's business account!
were
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 22, 2016, 07:15:48 PM
Well my wallet is now a further £35 lighter!
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161122_184432_zpso9zrtoar.jpg)

They weigh took all!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on November 22, 2016, 07:21:41 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 22, 2016, 07:15:48 PM
Well my wallet is now a further £35 lighter!
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161122_184432_zpso9zrtoar.jpg)

They weigh took all!


FOOK all

you really are doing it on purpose now aren't you ???
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 22, 2016, 07:30:35 PM
It's the fucking spell check!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: MOzZereLLa on November 22, 2016, 08:42:15 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 22, 2016, 07:15:48 PM
Well my wallet is now a further £35 lighter!
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161122_184432_zpso9zrtoar.jpg)

They weigh took all!

Just think how much faster you'll be now......
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on November 23, 2016, 07:43:04 AM
Home quicker...more time for spelling lessons.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Phil_8 on November 23, 2016, 04:24:31 PM
Yes, although light, I dont think paper brake discs will be too effective
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 23, 2016, 06:19:16 PM
 cardboard!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Green_Ninja on November 23, 2016, 06:25:48 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 22, 2016, 07:30:35 PM
It's the fucking spell check!


"A bad workman always blames his tools"


:cheesy:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: captain sensible on November 25, 2016, 12:46:27 AM
 :rofl:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: LewisBeGoog on November 25, 2016, 10:13:58 AM
never tried oqwejq brakes. you have to let us know if they are any good
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 25, 2016, 12:17:26 PM
Quote from: LewisBeGoog on November 25, 2016, 10:13:58 AM
never tried oqwejq brakes. you have to let us know if they are any good
Will do mate! 😋
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: MOzZereLLa on November 25, 2016, 05:01:05 PM
Quote from: LewisBeGoog on November 25, 2016, 10:13:58 AM
never tried oqwejq brakes. you have to let us know if they are any good

Those counterfeiters seem to get away with anything these days.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: DaveH on November 25, 2016, 11:34:22 PM
Quote from: LewisBeGoog on November 25, 2016, 10:13:58 AM
never tried oqwejq brakes. you have to let us know if they are any good
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 27, 2016, 03:27:56 PM
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161127_094210_zpsbiklj0pq.jpg)

Ooooo yes!

Just need new lines now and it's good to go
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: MOzZereLLa on November 27, 2016, 03:49:47 PM
Those Brembos will last 5 mins if you keep them as mucky as your wheels.....
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 27, 2016, 04:55:32 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 27, 2016, 03:49:47 PM
Those Brembos will last 5 mins if you keep them as mucky as your wheels.....
The wheels are off the donor bike I've not so much as done a miles on it , wheels are normally cleaned regularly
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on November 27, 2016, 10:23:40 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 27, 2016, 03:27:56 PM
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161127_094210_zpsbiklj0pq.jpg)

Ooooo yes!

Just need new lines now and it's good to go
Spacers look keek...can you colour match with carrier?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: 1-600-matt on November 27, 2016, 11:40:56 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 27, 2016, 03:27:56 PM


Ooooo yes!

Just need new lines now and it's good to go

How do the brembo callipers fit when removing and installing? I found the spacing between the 320mm disc and the wheel rim pretty tight to get stock callipers on and off the disc.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 28, 2016, 06:03:49 AM
It's tighter than stock , but didn't really have a problem
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 29, 2016, 09:17:15 AM
New hel lines ordered! Managed to get a good price , tenner more than I was quoted as I wanted black fittings
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on November 29, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
Did you choose to ignore my spacer comment?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 29, 2016, 01:25:37 PM
Quote from: Alzo on November 29, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
Did you choose to ignore my spacer comment?
Sorry didn't notice it , not quite sure what you mean?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on November 29, 2016, 06:46:59 PM
The Black spacers between the new Brembo brakes and the original carrier.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 29, 2016, 07:34:55 PM
I didn't chouse the colour if that's what you mean
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on November 29, 2016, 09:03:29 PM
No I know that...I'm suggesting they could be colour matched to either the Brembos caliper of the carrier...they ruin a good look.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on November 29, 2016, 09:14:33 PM
Ooooo got ya now! I'm being a bit dense, I thought that , the funny thing is there genuine brembo kit so would have thought so
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 02, 2016, 06:15:38 AM
Brake lines arrive , and there not what I ordered I'm sure they will fit fine but I paid for hel lines and they sent there own brand............ Not impressed
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: 7550 on December 02, 2016, 07:21:00 AM
There, their, they're.

Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on December 02, 2016, 08:14:30 AM
Quote from: GRUMPY on December 02, 2016, 07:21:00 AM
There, their, they're.

Where, wear, ware?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on December 02, 2016, 10:41:45 AM
You're....your...you
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: 7550 on December 02, 2016, 11:09:45 AM
Need, knead, kneed. 
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 02, 2016, 12:29:58 PM
Supposedly they are hel lines without the hel branding so they are sending out the branding to me...
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: MOzZereLLa on December 02, 2016, 06:57:26 PM
who, whom, who'd
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 03, 2016, 05:23:06 PM
Fitting new lines is just fitting them doing the bolts up and bleeding them ,right?
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on December 03, 2016, 05:44:21 PM
Follow the instructions closely...placing any seals/ washers where specified...all take care not to over tighten the bolts.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 03, 2016, 05:49:46 PM
Quote from: Alzo on December 03, 2016, 05:44:21 PM
Follow the instructions closely...placing any seals/ washers where specified...all take care not to over tighten the bolts.
Sadly I don't think there are instructions I'll check though I may be wrong
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on December 03, 2016, 08:34:29 PM
There is usually a diagram of sorts.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 03, 2016, 09:07:28 PM
On closer inspection there seems to be instructions just hope it all works
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on December 04, 2016, 06:22:37 AM
If followed and done correctly then there shouldn't be any issues. Bleeding can be a pita...but if you purchase a vacuum kit that sucks the fluid through the system it helps no end.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 04, 2016, 07:58:49 AM
I'm lucky enough to have one , only got a litre of fluid though just hope that's enough
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Alzo on December 04, 2016, 08:54:54 AM
Should be more than enough...but a quick check of the manual should confirm quantities.
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 04, 2016, 08:56:24 AM
Quote from: Alzo on December 04, 2016, 08:54:54 AM
Should be more than enough...but a quick check of the manual should confirm quantities.
one problem I may have come across is I have a mini res on the front and an hrc res on the rear.... so will be a pain in the arse...
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 04, 2016, 03:41:19 PM
well its done!!! pain the fucking arse , mother of all airlocks , took it round the block fuck me does the zx6r feel tiny, going to take some getting used to again
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 05, 2016, 12:36:07 PM
Well it got me to work! Feels so strange
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20161205_123437_zpsg5je1zgb.jpg)
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Phil_8 on December 23, 2016, 12:01:58 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 05, 2016, 12:36:07 PM
Well it got me to work!

You are not the only one amazed by this!
Title: Re: THE GREAT B1H RESURECTION!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 23, 2016, 12:03:19 PM
Quote from: Phil_8 on December 23, 2016, 12:01:58 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 05, 2016, 12:36:07 PM
Well it got me to work!

You are not the only one amazed by this!
The fact that I have taken the entire bloody things apart put it back together and it's not killed me , I'm quite amazed