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Title: i wanted a supermoto and almost a year later i have one!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 21, 2014, 06:23:17 PM
need bit of advice got my eye on this thinking of doing a part exchange with my 97 zx6r but I don't really know much about the Hondas or if its a good deal or even bike anyone have any opinions?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-FMX-650-SUPERMOTO-NO-SWAP-P-X-CONSIDERD-/271468405065?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3f34c72149

there is also this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/wr426f-supermoto-like-yzf-kxf-rmz-crf-ktm-cr-rm-yz-kx-road-legal-enduro-px-/251532070987?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a907ad04b
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: MOzZereLLa on May 21, 2014, 06:59:14 PM
The Honda is not really a Supermoto. It's like a SM but not a real one. It's like saying a rav4 is an off roader.

The WR426 is just a converted Enduro bike. Lots of engine care and servicing required.

If you want a real supermoto animal nothing compares to a Husaberg FS650.

If you want a Supermoto wannabe with less servicing and TLC require ten look for a decent KTM LC4.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 21, 2014, 07:17:15 PM
if im completely honest I want something that's not high high maintenance don't care about things I can change my self etc  it has to be loud and reliable ish did have a go on a drz400 but it didn't have anymore go than my ninja 250

I have been looking for a ktm lc4   my other half recently got rid of her ktm had nothing but problems with it though I like the older style lc4 but they are few and far between unless I wanna do 110 miles to view the thing

I would love an sxv550 but cant warrant the cost atm sadly..
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: 0luke0 on May 21, 2014, 08:16:20 PM
What about a 690smc? Think my mate is selling his 2008 one
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 21, 2014, 08:22:57 PM
Quote from: 0luke0 on May 21, 2014, 08:16:20 PM
What about a 690smc? Think my mate is selling his 2008 one

that's the one my missus got rid of would have to know how much where it is etc and most importantly what colour
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: terry950sm on May 21, 2014, 09:41:57 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 21, 2014, 07:17:15 PM
if im completely honest I want something that's not high high maintenance

I would keep away from motos then. Deffo stay away from an SXV. I owned one for 2 years, the running and maintenance cost was horrendous.

They do look sweet. Mine just before I sold it

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/terrys/n8178.jpg)[/URL]

The 690smc seems a good buy.

Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 21, 2014, 09:44:39 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on May 21, 2014, 09:41:57 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 21, 2014, 07:17:15 PM
if im completely honest I want something that's not high high maintenance

I would keep away from motos then. Deffo stay away from an SXV. I owned one for 2 years, the running and maintenance cost was horrendous.

They do look sweet. Mine just before I sold it

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/terrys/n8178.jpg)[/URL]

The 690smc seems a good buy.
I know how often the maintenance is for the sxv but there such mental bikes and oooo the sound!

if a 690 comes along for the right money ill probably do it do prefer the older ones though
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: 0luke0 on May 21, 2014, 09:51:11 PM
it's orange and in Hersham, surrey.  I'll ask how much he wants for it
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: Normski on May 21, 2014, 09:55:02 PM
Xr650. Old but cheap and bullet proof. Sound awesome and wheelie through the box.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: terry950sm on May 21, 2014, 09:56:04 PM
My heart tells me to buy another sxv, but my head says no.  :(

Most of the guys I ride with have 690 smc. They seem to be OK.

Last Saturdays rideout  :cool:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/terrys/A29E71C4-F0A5-494C-9FCB-E63EF4DF9558_zps48c77604.png)[/URL]
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 21, 2014, 10:01:13 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on May 21, 2014, 09:56:04 PM
My heart tells me to buy another sxv, but my head says no.  :(

Most of the guys I ride with have 690 smc. They seem to be OK.

Last Sundays rideout  :cool:

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/terrys/A29E71C4-F0A5-494C-9FCB-E63EF4DF9558_zps48c77604.png)[/URL]

im going to have to get one my backs not what  it was and I need something upright but fun looks like you had a blast very jealous
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: HP on May 22, 2014, 12:12:53 AM
I have KTM LC4 640 Enduro that I'm tempted supermoto up after a trip to Pyrenees, apart from muppet dealer in Colchester it's not been high maintenance or had any problems, its very much a precision peice of engendering & you need to treat it that way, to be on safe side stick to KTM parts (long story) I rode mine 300+ to Wales did Taffy Dakar & rode her all the way back, no issues whatsoever apart from sore arse.

Even if my KTM had issues the fun & pure pleasure I get from riding it is worth every penny

Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 07:10:57 AM
Thanks for all the encorugement guys and girls going to keep my eyes open
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: MOzZereLLa on May 22, 2014, 09:25:06 AM
They are about...

http://www.ktmforum.co.uk/bikes-bits-sale/671306-2008-ktm-690-sale.html
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: 0luke0 on May 22, 2014, 09:33:36 AM
Quote from: MOz on May 22, 2014, 09:25:06 AM
They are about...

http://www.ktmforum.co.uk/bikes-bits-sale/671306-2008-ktm-690-sale.html

That's an SM though, I'd rather get a SMC if I were going down the supermoto root
Title: Re: i want a supermoto but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 09:36:21 AM
yeah and can get the same model cheaper from a dealer
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 08:09:25 PM
been looking at this as its only over the road from me not a super moto but im heading the right way I have no idea if its a good buy

I no these things need maintaining but someone told me you have to change the oil every 6 hours? needs new filters every 30 etc and well cant remember the rest I was in the pub

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301188901022
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Millhouse on May 22, 2014, 09:02:04 PM
There's a Ktm 640 on facebook/biker booty
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 09:06:34 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on May 22, 2014, 09:02:04 PM
There's a Ktm 640 on facebook/biker booty
that's just a big black arse.....

I was sceptical at the booty and even more at the fact you posted it..
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on May 22, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 08:09:25 PM
been looking at this as its only over the road from me not a super moto but im heading the right way I have no idea if its a good buy

I no these things need maintaining but someone told me you have to change the oil every 6 hours? needs new filters every 30 etc and well cant remember the rest I was in the pub

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301188901022

The price range you are looking at, will contain lots of potential time bombs and headaches. Plan to spend over 3k.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 09:08:52 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on May 22, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 08:09:25 PM
been looking at this as its only over the road from me not a super moto but im heading the right way I have no idea if its a good buy

I no these things need maintaining but someone told me you have to change the oil every 6 hours? needs new filters every 30 etc and well cant remember the rest I was in the pub

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301188901022

The price range you are looking at, will contain lots of potential time bombs and headaches. Plan to spend over 3k.
im thinking is if I go over 3k I might aswell go for a 990sm or the like
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Millhouse on May 22, 2014, 09:09:11 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/23/nu3y8u7u.jpg)
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 09:10:54 PM
how the fuck did you get that

this is what I got https://www.facebook.com/bikerbooty
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on May 22, 2014, 09:12:10 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 09:08:52 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on May 22, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 08:09:25 PM
been looking at this as its only over the road from me not a super moto but im heading the right way I have no idea if its a good buy

I no these things need maintaining but someone told me you have to change the oil every 6 hours? needs new filters every 30 etc and well cant remember the rest I was in the pub

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301188901022

The price range you are looking at, will contain lots of potential time bombs and headaches. Plan to spend over 3k.
im thinking is if I go over 3k I might aswell go for a 990sm or the like

950 sm start at 3.5k to 4k depending on condition. 990sm start at 4.5k to 7k.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on May 22, 2014, 09:14:31 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on May 22, 2014, 09:09:11 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/23/nu3y8u7u.jpg)

Remember this bike is 10 years old and has old technology. last one I rode rattled my teeth out  :azn:
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 09:15:14 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on May 22, 2014, 09:09:11 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/23/nu3y8u7u.jpg)
looks bang on what I want that if im honest got rid of my facebook is the only problem
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 09:16:24 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on May 22, 2014, 09:14:31 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on May 22, 2014, 09:09:11 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/23/nu3y8u7u.jpg)

Remember this bike is 10 years old and has old technology. last one I rode rattled my teeth out  :azn:
it is the model I was after though if im honest
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Millhouse on May 22, 2014, 09:18:03 PM
Want me to message him to get a phone number?
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on May 22, 2014, 09:18:43 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 09:16:24 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on May 22, 2014, 09:14:31 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on May 22, 2014, 09:09:11 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/23/nu3y8u7u.jpg)

Remember this bike is 10 years old and has old technology. last one I rode rattled my teeth out  :azn:
it is the model I was after though if im honest

Ride one before you buy it  ;)
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 09:19:11 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on May 22, 2014, 09:18:03 PM
Want me to message him to get a phone number?
if possible mate would be a help
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Millhouse on May 22, 2014, 09:19:39 PM
Request sent!
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 09:21:10 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on May 22, 2014, 09:19:39 PM
Request sent!
cheers
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on May 22, 2014, 09:27:17 PM
Put this site in your favourites. Great help if you have any trouble with a KTM http://www.ktmforum.co.uk/content/
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 22, 2014, 09:31:03 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on May 22, 2014, 09:27:17 PM
Put this site in your favourites. Great help if you have any trouble with a KTM http://www.ktmforum.co.uk/content/
cheers ive heard good things about them I will be getting a ktm at somepoint ideally I need the zx6r to sell first but sometime its hard to wait.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on May 27, 2014, 12:39:42 PM
Little video of supermotos riding around N Yorkshire  last Saturday.

I am the sensible one at the front.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeX4dhHMojc
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 27, 2014, 05:13:21 PM
this is why I need a supermoto!!!!!
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 28, 2014, 07:05:16 PM
would have bloody had one by now if there wasn't so many twats on ebay, anyone tried to ride a supermoto up a couple of concrete stairs if so does it do it?
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Jonesy on May 28, 2014, 07:25:02 PM
Small piece of advice....

Sack eBay off and start looking on forums! You'll get a better bike and a better deal than paying eBay ott prices!
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 28, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Jonesy on May 28, 2014, 07:25:02 PM
Small piece of advice....

Sack eBay off and start looking on forums! You'll get a better bike and a better deal than paying eBay ott prices!
ive been starting to think that my self as one I was after was after 2200 but 2700 on ebay because of fees  I want idealy a 640sm or a 660smc
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 28, 2014, 08:19:26 PM
needs to be able to climb these do you think a supermoto is up to the task?
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/WP_20140528_003_zps0e57778f.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/WP_20140528_003_zps0e57778f.jpg.html)
(http://i1314.photobucket.com/albums/t574/blackstarracing8/WP_20140528_002_zpsd0e51c71.jpg) (http://s1314.photobucket.com/user/blackstarracing8/media/WP_20140528_002_zpsd0e51c71.jpg.html)
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on May 28, 2014, 08:41:44 PM
Anything'll go up them.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 28, 2014, 08:47:30 PM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on May 28, 2014, 08:41:44 PM
Anything'll go up them.
sportsbikes wont even took bellypan off and it fowled the downpipes
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: David W on May 28, 2014, 08:52:51 PM
Feet up.  Pop wheelie and let the back wheel hit the first step.... ;)
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 28, 2014, 08:57:29 PM
Quote from: David W on May 28, 2014, 08:52:51 PM
Feet up.  Pop wheelie and let the back wheel hit the first step.... ;)
there is no run up hardly ive poped the zx6r up there and just well got bit stuck
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on May 28, 2014, 09:10:17 PM
Have you heard of a plank of wood?
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 28, 2014, 09:14:04 PM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on May 28, 2014, 09:10:17 PM
Have you heard of a plank of wood?
think its worth me getting a folding bike ramp?
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on May 28, 2014, 09:19:51 PM
If you like spending money then yes but as you bought a set of leathers for £12 and are doing your own repairs, I had you down as a plank of wood type :)
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 28, 2014, 09:24:30 PM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on May 28, 2014, 09:19:51 PM
If you like spending money then yes but as you bought a set of leathers for £12 and are doing your own repairs, I had you down as a plank of wood type :)
well im planning on coming off in them my decent leathers are purely for show well they are now im fat would help for the van we normally just grab each end of the bikes and well chuck in the back so a ramp wouldn't be a bad investment
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 28, 2014, 09:25:59 PM
I managed to ride straight up them on a klx250 was just hoping I may be able to on a supermoto still going for the ktm the moment I find what I want
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on May 28, 2014, 11:01:50 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 28, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Jonesy on May 28, 2014, 07:25:02 PM
Small piece of advice....

Sack eBay off and start looking on forums! You'll get a better bike and a better deal than paying eBay ott prices!
ive been starting to think that my self as one I was after was after 2200 but 2700 on ebay because of fees  I want idealy a 640sm or a 660smc

660 is kick-start only. Bastard to start if you dont know how.

I would take Jonesy advice do your research and listen to people who know about these type of bikes.

Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 28, 2014, 11:11:06 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on May 28, 2014, 11:01:50 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 28, 2014, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Jonesy on May 28, 2014, 07:25:02 PM
Small piece of advice....

Sack eBay off and start looking on forums! You'll get a better bike and a better deal than paying eBay ott prices!
ive been starting to think that my self as one I was after was after 2200 but 2700 on ebay because of fees  I want idealy a 640sm or a 660smc

660 is kick-start only. Bastard to start if you dont know how.

I would take Jonesy advice do your research and listen to people who know about these type of bikes.
im happy to listen to anyone as this will be used a fair bit so it will see some miles just hope I can  get it up my steps and im golden
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: 0luke0 on May 28, 2014, 11:58:07 PM
I had a 625smc, more powerful than the 640 but electric start, unlike the 660
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: 0luke0 on May 28, 2014, 11:58:26 PM
Are you on ktmforum.co.UK?
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on May 29, 2014, 12:40:04 AM
Quote from: 0luke0 on May 28, 2014, 11:58:26 PM
Are you on ktmforum.co.UK?

I am. Don't know about carbon
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on May 29, 2014, 07:30:34 AM
I'm not no
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 04, 2014, 02:41:50 PM
ramp ordered from m&p for just under £43 delivered bloody bargain so one step closer  :azn:
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: 0luke0 on June 04, 2014, 02:45:51 PM
My mate will be selling his 690smc, he just needs to get it sorted out and MOT'd as he hasn't used it much in the last year.  Think he'll be looking for around £4k for it.  Let me know if you are interested and i'l pass on the details
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 04, 2014, 02:52:53 PM
would depends on where it is I am ideally after the older style ones though prefer the basic look
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: MOzZereLLa on June 04, 2014, 03:06:35 PM
Accept the fact it needs oil and filters every 10-20 hrs and buy a FS650 Berg.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 04, 2014, 03:48:29 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 04, 2014, 03:06:35 PM
Accept the fact it needs oil and filters every 10-20 hrs and buy a FS650 Berg.
I have had a bit of a nose at them and the huskys but this bike will get me to my night job  so has to be a tad more reliable than that
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: MOzZereLLa on June 04, 2014, 03:51:49 PM
Surely, a breakdown is a perfect excuse for being late?

Don't be ghey........

;)
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 04, 2014, 03:54:10 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 04, 2014, 03:51:49 PM
Surely, a breakdown is a perfect excuse for being late?

Don't be ghey........

;)
not when im only a couple of miles away and well the boss......
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 16, 2014, 08:16:52 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121364663838?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

yay or nay? its not that far from me and could be a good stepping stone?
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 16, 2014, 08:24:33 PM
seriously considering this so need advice asap
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: 0luke0 on June 17, 2014, 06:48:05 AM
Don't bother, IMHO.  Will be difficult getting spares etc.

What about this?:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-625-SMC-Supermoto-/131212648678?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item1e8ce220e6#ht_204wt_1141
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 17, 2014, 10:16:18 AM
spares are easy to get hold of for the ccms well the Suzuki based ones not to sure about the rotax
that ktm looks perfect luke except for the fact its 590 miles away......
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: MOzZereLLa on July 08, 2014, 12:39:57 PM
Right. Enough of the idle chit chat and threatening to be interested in any ol shite.

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/221488077573

Get it bought - the best motard a retard like you can own..... ;-)
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Gobert on July 08, 2014, 01:01:04 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on July 08, 2014, 12:39:57 PM
Right. Enough of the idle chit chat and threatening to be interested in any ol shite.

He's got a long way to catch up with you............ :rofl:
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: MOzZereLLa on July 08, 2014, 01:02:02 PM
Quote from: Gobert on July 08, 2014, 01:01:04 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on July 08, 2014, 12:39:57 PM
Right. Enough of the idle chit chat and threatening to be interested in any ol shite.

He's got a long way to catch up with you............ :rofl:

True, but he's trying hard......
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Gobert on July 08, 2014, 01:06:53 PM
You there Saturday?
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: MOzZereLLa on July 08, 2014, 01:20:06 PM
Yep but just Saturday. Packing for Cyprus on Sunday.

Hopefully it will stay dry. The 990 "should" be turning up.

Might have a couple of MVs to play on too as Robinsons of Rochdale are bringing two along for Davo to try out.

Failing that the PR BSB bike and Superstock bikes will be there.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 08, 2014, 03:19:11 PM
might have been interested in that if it was closer im tinkering with the idea of getting a new super on finance .....

I say super should be more hyper...
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on July 08, 2014, 06:08:07 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on July 08, 2014, 12:39:57 PM
Right. Enough of the idle chit chat and threatening to be interested in any ol shite.

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/221488077573

Get it bought - the best motard a retard like you can own..... ;-)

I have ridden that bike. The guy selling it is very meticulous about the maintenance of his bikes.

Has masses of low down torque.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: MOzZereLLa on July 08, 2014, 06:11:59 PM
I'd be tempted myself if I could get rid of the Adventure.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Jonesy on July 08, 2014, 06:50:33 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 08, 2014, 03:19:11 PM
might have been interested in that if it was closer

£50 train fare, jobs a good un'!

Especially with the review of the seller....
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on September 22, 2014, 07:27:46 PM
funds secured , I saw this its up the road from me is it cheap for a reason don't know to much about huskys?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/husqvarna-te610e-supermoto-/321524005407?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4adc52fa1f
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Gobert on September 22, 2014, 07:48:31 PM
How about that it's been written off and he can't get it going for starters...............
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on September 22, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
Quote from: Gobert on September 22, 2014, 07:48:31 PM
How about that it's been written off and he can't get it going for starters...............
how did I miss that its been written off!! grr, im fine with kick starts I just understood that as he cant get on with it
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on September 22, 2014, 10:59:03 PM
You'll probably end up with a scooter
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on September 22, 2014, 11:41:36 PM
Things are usually cheap for a reason.

Good luck
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Dav1d01 on September 24, 2014, 12:54:22 PM

I don't wan to crash your thread Carbon but I'm thinking about doing something similar.

I ride my R1 all year round but this year I'm thinking winter hack/fun - supermoto style bike an option?
I've seen the KTC 625smc's are decent enough. I know nothing about these bikes so someone recommend something decent, reliable and fun and I'll test ride and get one.

Cheers.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on September 24, 2014, 03:22:47 PM
If you want something reliable, stick with your R1.  :grin:

Supermotos are usually highly strung singles, that need lots of maintenance.

You either love them or hate them. Buy carefully, one with loads of history and has been looked after.

People seem to think they can buy one cheap and just ride and maintain it like a Jap bike.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: simon m on September 25, 2014, 10:15:34 AM
I had an Xt660sm from yam.

Heavy and underpowered in comparison to all the "real" supermoto's listed above

However. Less maintenance. More sensible for longer trips and cruising/touring

The newer ones are better from fuelling POV. Mine was a little lumpy till I adjusted it and made a few mods.

Also If you didn't know I live on the isle of man and the roads other than the TT course are begging for an SM.

My first love is and always will be sports bikes. But here on any other road than the TT course...sm wins hands down

Loads and loads of massive grins and a pair of MX boots with worn out soles from idiotic foot out fuckwittery.

I want another now but I will wait till I can fund something worthwhile.


Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: MOzZereLLa on September 25, 2014, 10:28:54 AM
Are the lengendary Simon M says (hello mate, how are you buddy?) road motos might be the way forward.

KTM LC4 is also a little easier to live with servicing-wise and will be a little lighter and pokier than the Yam. Might be worth a look above any SMCs, converted MXs or enduro bikes etc.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: whoopee on September 25, 2014, 03:53:44 PM
Just my 2p.

My son had an LC4 engine in his brand new DukeII.
It was powerful for a single but it comes at a price.
The base gasket blew while he was carefully running it in - I was with him on that ride.
Then the vibes were permanently shaking loose major bits of the bike - the twin exhausts used to shake themselves loose every few hundred miles despite careful re-fitting, use of loctite etc....

A few years later I was chatting to the owner/mechanic of a small independant motorcycle repair garage & he said that the LC4 was in his opinion the most fragile of any engine in the last 20 years.

Until it was stolen, my son had a DRZ400 Suzuki as well as his DukeII - he preferred the KTM to ride (by miles actually) but the Suzuki was indestructable.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: MOzZereLLa on September 25, 2014, 07:23:47 PM
Bugger!

My LC4 was faultless but then again so was my Berg FS650 but I did change the oil and filter fortnightly
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: whoopee on September 25, 2014, 08:03:17 PM
Ah that's interesting Moz, maybe my lad was just unlucky with his.
It always got hi home mind, the base gasket leak was mild enough to limp home with a top up of oil.

I have to say he utterly LOVED that bike mind, despite having had a string of litre bikes since, he still talks fondly of his DukeII.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on September 25, 2014, 08:06:38 PM
The LC4 will rattle your fillings out.  :grin:

Really depends what you want out of a moto. Plod along or a back lane scratcher.

Dont forget motos are all about loads of corner speed and lean angle.  :cool:

My old Duke 2

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/terrys/album_pic-1.jpg)[/URL]
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on October 11, 2014, 06:01:05 PM
ive heard people say stay away from the black engine/older ktms  so im abit unsure on this one it all sounds good looks good to me , not sure what its worth really but im interested in going to view it , whats your thoughts o wise ninjas

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-supermoto-640-625-Lc4-high-flow-electric-kick-start-tax-mot-9k-miles-VGC-/251674986818?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a98ff8942
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: 0luke0 on October 11, 2014, 06:07:00 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-KTM-625-SMC-ORANGE-/231345542699?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item35dd44d62b
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on October 11, 2014, 06:11:24 PM
prefer the one I posted if im honest , its not far from me and is low millage etc just need something's clearing up , the kickstart is ringing alarm bells as I was quite sure that engine was electric only
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: terry950sm on October 11, 2014, 07:01:11 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on October 11, 2014, 06:01:05 PM
ive heard people say stay away from the black engine/older ktms  so im abit unsure on this one it all sounds good looks good to me , not sure what its worth really but im interested in going to view it , whats your thoughts o wise ninjas

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-supermoto-640-625-Lc4-high-flow-electric-kick-start-tax-mot-9k-miles-VGC-/251674986818?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a98ff8942

Buy it.









































You can keep the forum entertained, with your rebuild thread.  :azn:
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: 0luke0 on October 11, 2014, 07:01:45 PM
The 640s and 625s are electric and kick, the 660s are just kick start
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on October 11, 2014, 07:16:51 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on October 11, 2014, 07:01:11 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on October 11, 2014, 06:01:05 PM
ive heard people say stay away from the black engine/older ktms  so im abit unsure on this one it all sounds good looks good to me , not sure what its worth really but im interested in going to view it , whats your thoughts o wise ninjas

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-supermoto-640-625-Lc4-high-flow-electric-kick-start-tax-mot-9k-miles-VGC-/251674986818?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a98ff8942

Buy it.

whats wrong with it terry? though the gray engines wore ok? I just didn't think they went back that far









































You can keep the forum entertained, with your rebuild thread.  :azn:
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 16, 2015, 01:33:59 PM
found this sounds too good to be true

http://www.gumtree.com/p/ktm-motorbikes/ktm-lc4-640-supermoto/1104573712

would you guys say its a bargain? or I should avoid it like the plague?
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Dom1 on March 16, 2015, 02:00:33 PM
Makes all the right noises for further investigation. Number of miles by this owner, number by previous etc.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 16, 2015, 02:06:26 PM
Quote from: Dom1 on March 16, 2015, 02:00:33 PM
Makes all the right noises for further investigation. Number of miles by this owner, number by previous etc.
that's what I was thinking as its the model I wanted
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 16, 2015, 02:09:13 PM
just sent him a message to see if its still available shame it has the standard exhaust on it though...
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Dom1 on March 16, 2015, 05:32:34 PM
Depends if you are thinking of laning on it.

Mine had a loud pipe on it that the previous owner changed back to standard, personally I prefer it quieter.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 16, 2015, 07:54:26 PM
I may do a bit depends on if I get it he's not emails back
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: MOzZereLLa on March 16, 2015, 08:09:43 PM
Far too heavy and cumbersome to lane on that.

Great road moto though. Not as fragile as some.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Green_Ninja on March 16, 2015, 08:26:53 PM
You started this thread nearly 12 months ago will you bloody buy one so we can start laughing at your posts about falling off/hurting yourself/the breakdowns  ;)
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 16, 2015, 08:36:19 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on March 16, 2015, 08:09:43 PM
Far too heavy and cumbersome to lane on that.

Great road moto though. Not as fragile as some.
The idea is to be my everyday bike but may have put offroad wheels on it for a laugh
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 16, 2015, 08:37:58 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on March 16, 2015, 08:26:53 PM
You started this thread nearly 12 months ago will you bloody buy one so we can start laughing at your posts about falling off/hurting yourself/the breakdowns  ;)
I'll buy it if he emails back and it is as described price seems good miles are low and we all like a full service history
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: HP on March 24, 2015, 10:29:47 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 16, 2015, 08:36:19 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on March 16, 2015, 08:09:43 PM
Far too heavy and cumbersome to lane on that.

Great road moto though. Not as fragile as some.
The idea is to be my everyday bike but may have put offroad wheels on it for a laugh

Moz I've used my LC640 off road in Wales and Pyranees in all terrain, she's not too heavy at all, she might be too tall, I stand at 5'9 with 34 inside leg and she's perfect for me.
I wasn't keen on riding her as a commuter as they're not really built to sit at speed in a single gear, I'd listen for knocking..... Cover exhaust after it's been warmed up and if it sounds like a bag of nails it might need an engine rebuild, they are renowned for engine bearing issues.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 24, 2015, 03:46:11 PM
The bloke never emailed back but I'm actively looking need new bike sooner than later now
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: HP on March 24, 2015, 05:39:25 PM
You'll find something, have you joined any Greenlane adventure bike forums? You'd be surprised what gets put up for sale on them.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 24, 2015, 07:19:44 PM
Quote from: HP on March 24, 2015, 05:39:25 PM
You'll find something, have you joined any Greenlane adventure bike forums? You'd be surprised what gets put up for sale on them.
no but its an idea, im only on here these days
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 25, 2015, 05:57:31 PM
im enquiring about this one and if it makes the right noises ill be having it providing I get a text back

http://www.gumtree.com/p/ktm-motorbikes/ktm-lc4-640cc-.-supermoto-bargin-/1106425279

sounds good to me and hes
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 25, 2015, 05:58:29 PM
update spoken to the lad

hes going to try and put it through mot in the morning I said id pay the £1850 on this basis

do you think im getting a bargain!

hes only got the v5c for it as its had it 3 weeks is this going to be a problem?
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: HP on March 25, 2015, 07:04:13 PM
Sweet looking bike  :cool: no idea about the V5 hopefully someone can answer that shortly.
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 25, 2015, 07:07:03 PM
Quote from: HP on March 25, 2015, 07:04:13 PM
Sweet looking bike  :cool: no idea about the V5 hopefully someone can answer that shortly.
I'm trying to find out about the v5

So seems like a good buy then, seller got it wrong its actully only got 9500 miles...
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 07:21:25 AM
he should be getting it mot'd this morning so touch wood it will all be good , just need more input about buying without the full v5
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 10:51:40 AM
he cant afford to put it through mot needs new rear as I expected and a legal plate but he is willing to drop the price to £1750 as is and deliver it, I can book it in for mot Saturday and have a tyre fitted
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 10:52:02 AM
still puts it in under 2k
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Dom1 on March 26, 2015, 11:28:45 AM
So this chap, bought the bike without having passed his test and it has no MOT so how exactly can he state that it starts, goes and stops 100%?

Not exactly what you would call an expert opinion is it?

Maintained regardless of expense....except tyres.....and an MOT.

Not filling me with confidence. How much do these things normally go for? Is it enough of a bargain to warrant a punt?
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 11:31:17 AM
Quote from: Dom1 on March 26, 2015, 11:28:45 AM
So this chap, bought the bike without having passed his test and it has no MOT so how exactly can he state that it starts, goes and stops 100%?

Not exactly what you would call an expert opinion is it?

Maintained regardless of expense....except tyres.....and an MOT.

Not filling me with confidence. How much do these things normally go for? Is it enough of a bargain to warrant a punt?

ive seen older tatty models for the £2400 mark

he said he swop'd 2 mx bikes for it
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on March 26, 2015, 11:44:12 AM
Do you have 2 MX bikes to swop?
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on March 26, 2015, 11:44:12 AM
Do you have 2 MX bikes to swop?
sadly not.....
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 12:39:05 PM
hes on his way............
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 02:17:19 PM
ive got it........................ :afro:
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: HP on March 26, 2015, 06:25:13 PM
 :cool: you'll love it
Title: Re: i want a supermoto or possibly a enduro but......
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 07:52:18 PM
Quote from: HP on March 26, 2015, 06:25:13 PM
:cool: you'll love it
Providing it end up in my name and no nasty shocks at mot Saturday I'm sure I will I'm bloody excited but sadly I have to wait
Title: Re: i wanted a supermoto and almost a year later i have one!!!!
Post by: terry950sm on March 28, 2015, 10:05:22 AM
Good luck with the new bike. I hope it is a good un
Title: Re: i wanted a supermoto and almost a year later i have one!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 28, 2015, 10:17:35 AM
Quote from: terry950sm on March 28, 2015, 10:05:22 AM
Good luck with the new bike. I hope it is a good un
You and me both  the millage was a bit suspect but I'm about to find out about that and see if it tallys with past mot's
Title: Re: i wanted a supermoto and almost a year later i have one!!!!
Post by: terry950sm on March 28, 2015, 10:36:10 AM
You have to promise me, that you don't go on the my KTM forum asking loads of questions, you already know the answer's to.
Title: Re: i wanted a supermoto and almost a year later i have one!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 28, 2015, 10:39:01 AM
Na never been on it
Title: Re: i wanted a supermoto and almost a year later i have one!!!!
Post by: terry950sm on March 28, 2015, 11:04:13 AM
You may fancy this. Now you have a moto  :cool:

http://www.ktmforum.co.uk/supermoto/1004786-flid-fest-supermoto-trackday.html

Title: Re: i wanted a supermoto and almost a year later i have one!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 28, 2015, 02:12:52 PM
Well it failed spectacularly most of it cheap as in pennys or free I.e bolts missing/loose but it did fail on the head race bearings which is also cheap if I do it my self not so if I dont, millage spears to be genuine it matchs up with previous mot's etc and said the damage/ marks is very beliveable and not out the ordinary even for a 5900 mile bike
Title: Re: i wanted a supermoto and almost a year later i have one!!!!
Post by: MOzZereLLa on March 28, 2015, 03:20:56 PM
When are you going to post pictures of the shed?
Title: Re: i wanted a supermoto and almost a year later i have one!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 28, 2015, 03:37:07 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on March 28, 2015, 03:20:56 PM
When are you going to post pictures of the shed?
ill take some tomorrow , ill be doing some work on it so gives me a chance