Hello All,
I am in need of any old sockets you may have lying around that you no longer need, any size, any type but free or nearly free / paying the postage would be appreciated.. or maybe a bearing, socket extensions, hex keys or something similar..
I've decided 2014 is the year I learn to weld and I'm going to make my own version this table of awesomeness!!
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i'll dedicate it to mcnninjas or some other gesture that will mask the fact i'm too cheap to pay proper money for stuff I can scrounge off you lot...
I think I have a few old imperial ones in the garage you can have for the cost of the postage or ninjaforce, I'll have a look in a bit for you :-)
Will these help make a start Mark?
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e230/iainbogie/for%20sale/20140107_1910531_zpsb1b53de3.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/iainbogie/media/for%20sale/20140107_1910531_zpsb1b53de3.jpg.html)
I probably have your address somewhere but ping it to me and I'll see what postage is like
Funny you say that Mark, as bought a SIP (Gas) mig welder from a bloke in Maldon the other week for a bastard scooter/2T trials bike project I've got planned :moto: :grin:
I'm waiting for him to turn up with it as he said he has some business up this way pretty soon.
Have you got a welder in hand/mind ?
my old man has a tool box full of old random imperial sockets
but getting him to part with them might be tricky, he likes to hoard crap even more than me
ill ask him next time I see him tho
greenninja - perfect!!! let me know what the postage costs ya and i'll get you a beer next time we meet..
ash. I want to get a mig with a gas bottle, single phase but over 600w (so michael a) told me anyway.. so on the lookout for one...
komp, if you can get your old man to part with any of em that'd be awesome!
thanks all! :)
I have some old sockets lying around the garage imperial and metric, will dig them out and let you know what I have, they have all been well used, is that ok?
Mark, the one I've got coming is a transformer type and rated to 140 amps or just over 3kw. I have been looking at this a bit, and have been warned off the cheap hobby welders. The duty cycles of them mean that you can spend a lot of time hanging around for the transformer to cool down if welding thicker stuff. Look for one with a similar rating if you can and the inverter types are much lighter but a bit more dosh. Go for a gas flow meter if buying a new regulator as you can control the amount you use more accurately. Co2 & 5% argon is the recommended mix and the bottles are about £60 deposit and then £25 for a refill which gives approx 2 hours of continuous welding.
Some good tutorial vids on youtube also
Basic tutorial here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzBGZaS1apw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Make sure you get a welder with a Euro connector..
(http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/188/749/293/293749188_425.JPG)
That way the harness is cheaper to replace/refurbish than a fitted one on a 'hobby' welder.
Not sure how easy it is to weld chromevanadium?
My mate Mig welded a 30 something mm socket on to a 20mm square mild steel length of bar for me to get a hub nut off a beetle a few years ago. Should be ok
Quote from: m6rk on January 07, 2014, 07:21:42 PM
greenninja - perfect!!! let me know what the postage costs ya and i'll get you a beer next time we meet..
ash. I want to get a mig with a gas bottle, single phase but over 600w (so michael a) told me anyway.. so on the lookout for one...
komp, if you can get your old man to part with any of em that'd be awesome!
thanks all! :)
Where are you M6rk? I am driving near enough to Iain's to pick them up if I can be of any help ninjaforcing. I'm in Cheltenham
im in cambridge, if you're passing ;-)
if not happy to pay the postage to whomever :)
I've got a load of old sockets that I never use, will dig them out and see how much they weigh. Most aren't particular big though.
Quote from: PJ on January 09, 2014, 02:44:09 PM
I've got a load of old sockets that I never use, will dig them out and see how much they weigh. Most aren't particular big though.
in that case do you want to get them to me and we can send em together (Ninjaforce or whatever) as it's probably easier?
Quote from: Green_Ninja on January 09, 2014, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: PJ on January 09, 2014, 02:44:09 PM
I've got a load of old sockets that I never use, will dig them out and see how much they weigh. Most aren't particular big though.
in that case do you want to get them to me and we can send em together (Ninjaforce or whatever) as it's probably easier?
Sounds like a plan Iain!
cheers, i love you lot...
best get finding me a welder then :)
Quote from: m6rk on January 09, 2014, 04:22:19 PM
cheers, i love you lot...
best get finding me a welder then :)
yes you'd better :azn:
How big is your budget ?
You may get lucky with this one. Auction ends tomorrow.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sip-weldmate-t130p-Gas-Gassless-mig-welder-/121247184601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c3ae536d9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sip-weldmate-t130p-Gas-Gassless-mig-welder-/121247184601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c3ae536d9)
:cry: as someone with an old imperial lathe of 1947 vintage and shaper from 1964 the thought of all those lovely imperial sockets becoming a bloody coffee table makes me weep !
Quote from: ash on January 09, 2014, 06:07:08 PM
How big is your budget ?
You may get lucky with this one. Auction ends tomorrow.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sip-weldmate-t130p-Gas-Gassless-mig-welder-/121247184601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c3ae536d9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sip-weldmate-t130p-Gas-Gassless-mig-welder-/121247184601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c3ae536d9)
anyone live close to warminster?? thats' exactly what i'm after...
Warminster = 25 miles from Brizzle (ish), Worry about getting it back after the event.
tis ok.. i've found another one closer by so hopefully will have a welder in the next week :)
I'm struggling to get mine home ATM....hopefully will get it back by the end of the week
I was outbid on a nearly full bottle of CO2 this morning in Weston-super-mare this morning...it went for £19
The problem is I'd have to factor for getting it back from there which would add on another £25-£30 in fuel and I can get them refilled for about £15 up my way
The value is in the deposit on these bottles. they have you by the short and curlies and it becomes dead money...hobby gas bottles are £60 deposit, and are £25 to exchange for a full bottle from my local welding supplier.
Haha I've been reading this as old socks wanted.. I thought it was some strange fetish you had M6
Quote from: Foo on January 10, 2014, 10:16:19 AM
Haha I've been reading this as old socks wanted.. I thought it was some strange fetish you had M6
:rofl: :rofl:
daft bint ;)
RE the CO2 bottles.........im sure a mate popped to his local boozer and spoke to the landlord about paying for CO2 refills using one of the CO2 bottles the pub uses....might be a cheaper option?
Or find local hospital and slip the porter a drink for a disused bottle....but dont just take a bottle that are often left outside around the back....ohhh no no no :police:
There's a place in Twickenham that will sell you a bottle of Argon/CO2 for about £140, and will do a refill/swap for about £40. Best deal I've found round here.
You can also get CO2 refills from fire extinguisher servicing companies for sensible money (I was quoted £15 for a refill)
Maddog , I have been looking, but the deposit on a bottle is a bit prohibitive for them to kiss goodbye to so unless you have a very good relationship with the landlord, it could be a difficult thing to wangle :(
Can the mig be gasless? I know the welds look better with gas, but is it not an option to try without just to get you going?
Quote from: Maddog on January 10, 2014, 11:25:40 PM
Can the mig be gasless? I know the welds look better with gas, but is it not an option to try without just to get you going?
yep you get wire with a flux core
everywhere i read said use gas.. hobbyweld do gas cylinders without rent much cheaper than boc or using disposables...
Yeah, use gas. Disposables are useless, in my experience.
Get a proper bottle, or you're just making life difficult for yourself.
Woohoo, got my welder from Essex last night. A lot of miles and it is a big lump. Just got to scrape the money to get the gas and a mask now.
The guy I bought it from runs a company called Essex industrial gases in Maldon. He advised to not just use co2 but instead a co2 and 5% argon mix, because the co2 on its own breaks down to create a plasma and this then runs very hot...the addition of argon acts to cool so you can run with less amps... and so more control on thinner metal...less chance of blowing through.
Quote from: ash on January 12, 2014, 10:42:16 AM
Woohoo, got my welder from Essex last night
Don't say hello then! :(
Quote from: Nat on January 12, 2014, 11:02:11 AM
Quote from: ash on January 12, 2014, 10:42:16 AM
Woohoo, got my welder from Essex last night
Don't say hello then! :(
Hi Nat :)
The closest I got was the park and ride at j18 on the A11. It was a flying visit as I had to also pick up a part for my poorly boiler from Dunstable. .I had to dash back as we had no hot water or central heating and everyone was sat there shivering. I was also within a couple of miles from my sister s place in st Albans, but the clock was against me :(
How far are you from there ?
And here it is. I tested it on an old socket (sorry M6) without the gas, and got the full bird shit effect. Seems to have all the bells and whistles on it apart from a Eurotorch conversion...will be doing that if I break this one. It is a big lump...very pleased I got it for £100 though..even if I did have to do a 280 mile round trip to get it.
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Quote from: ash on January 12, 2014, 10:42:16 AM
Woohoo, got my welder from Essex last night. A lot of miles and it is a big lump. Just got to scrape the money to get the gas and a mask now.
The guy I bought it from runs a company called Essex industrial gases in Maldon. He advised to not just use co2 but instead a co2 and 5% argon mix, because the co2 on its own breaks down to create a plasma and this then runs very hot...the addition of argon acts to cool so you can run with less amps... and so more control on thinner metal...less chance of blowing through.
yep have a look at hobbyweld as they sell the rent free bottles with the co2 argon mix..
Quote from: m6rk on January 12, 2014, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: ash on January 12, 2014, 10:42:16 AM
Woohoo, got my welder from Essex last night. A lot of miles and it is a big lump. Just got to scrape the money to get the gas and a mask now.
The guy I bought it from runs a company called Essex industrial gases in Maldon. He advised to not just use co2 but instead a co2 and 5% argon mix, because the co2 on its own breaks down to create a plasma and this then runs very hot...the addition of argon acts to cool so you can run with less amps... and so more control on thinner metal...less chance of blowing through.
yep have a look at hobbyweld as they sell the rent free bottles with the co2 argon mix..
How far away are you from Maldon Mark ?
about 45 mins so not too far..
The guy I bought this from has a gas production and bottling plant there (Essex industrial Gases) . When he fills a 10 litre bottle, he does it to 200 bar (or 2000 litres of gas), When a lot of other suppliers fill their bottles, they only do it to 137bar (or 1370 litres of gas)
If I could get my gas off him, I would but he is just too far away :(
They probably deliver up your way as well as he said they supply about 1000 pubs in the area, ask for Geoff if you call. He is a really nice chap :)
http://www.pubgas.com/shop/category/38-welding-gases (http://www.pubgas.com/shop/category/38-welding-gases)
ahh cheers for that ash :)
Still on the hunt for a welder.. but found a welding course down the road so gonna sign myself up :)
Quote from: m6rk on January 12, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
ahh cheers for that ash :)
Still on the hunt for a welder.. but found a welding course down the road so gonna sign myself up :)
Watch that video of a college welding lecture up the thread. They go through principles of Mig welding, and best practice in both it and the follow on one. Should be enough to get you going.
Quote from: ash on January 12, 2014, 11:27:09 PM
Quote from: m6rk on January 12, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
ahh cheers for that ash :)
Still on the hunt for a welder.. but found a welding course down the road so gonna sign myself up :)
Watch that video of a college welding lecture up the thread. They go through principles of Mig welding, and best practice in both it and the follow on one. Should be enough to get you going.
That welder of mine sells new for just over £400 (http://www.toolite.org.uk/weldmate-t140w-welder-p-21410.html). It was well worth punt and the trip to pick it up.
What is your budget as the hobby welders for £150 are a bit lacking in finesse. I was shown an inverter welder for about £350 in my local welding supplier (Noz-Alls)...they are being manufactured under their own brand name to their own spec. It had a higher spec than mine but weighed a little over 1/3rd of its weight. They showed me it, and the spec was really very good. I can find out more if you are interested
Having done some reading on http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/ i've narrowed it down to two models
Either a clarke http://www.weldequip.com/clarke-160tm.htm
or if I can find the cash a portamig
http://www.weldequip.com/portamig-mig-welders.htm
This is the welder from the Welding suppliers local to me - Noz-Alls
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QuoteHi Ash
I have attached the leaflet copy for your information. If you need anything at all please do feel free to get back in touch.
Prices: Inc. VAT.
Machine Package: £312 (includes torch, reg, gas hose, 1kg wire, 5 spare tips, 1 spare shroud)
Machine Package + Trolley: £360
Machine Package + Auto Helmet + 5kg 0.8 + 5kg 0.6: £375
Machine Package + Auto Helmet + 5kg 0.8 + 5kg 0.6 + Trolley: £418
We should be getting stock in around Mid April.
Best Regards
Graham Hill
Edit, I just had an email from the owner saying that if anyone mentions they have come from the MCNNinja site when buying a welder, he will also throw in a free pair of weldas welding gauntlets.