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Title: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: villieb on April 24, 2014, 07:31:41 PM
Afternoon... I need some advice. A friemd approached me about using my address to bail out his cousin.

My friends cousin had an argument with his wife and she got him arrested. Apparently he isn't allowed bail in the same town so hence why I was asked. Has anyone else been in this position and what did you do?

What are the long term implications of using my address?

Thanks!
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on April 24, 2014, 07:50:43 PM
How well do you know the bloke sounds fishy what did she get him arrested for as they wont exclude him from a town cor a row what you need to think is do you want the lad in your home
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Gilby104 on April 24, 2014, 07:53:53 PM
Quote from: villieb on April 24, 2014, 07:31:41 PM
Afternoon... I need some advice. A friemd approached me about using my address to bail out his cousin.

My friends cousin had an argument with his wife and she got him arrested. Apparently he isn't allowed bail in the same town so hence why I was asked. Has anyone else been in this position and what did you do?

What are the long term implications of using my address?

Thanks!

I honestly have no idea what the legal ramifications of it all are.... but.....

my general rule with stuff like that is if he isn't your mate it's not your problem. If he hasn't got any mates of his own that are willing to back him then he's probably not the sort of lad you want to be extending help to.... people have an uncanny knack of taking liberties with other people, especially when it's people they don't need to show any loyalty to.

It's got "stay away from it" written all over it for me.... but I've been wrong before!
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Maddog on April 24, 2014, 08:06:42 PM
From a professional point of view......dont do it. If he ever skips bail or fails to appear the police will be knocking at your door at all hours looking for him as the address is a bail address for him. Your address will be known to police systems for Mr x being linked to it.

My 2 pennies worth is not to do it
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on April 24, 2014, 08:13:06 PM
Do a bloke a solid turn and face the prospect of a little bit of inconvenience if things turn sour?

never pass up an opportunity to do something nice for someone...... especially if it requires no more effort than to utter the word "yes".
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Maddog on April 24, 2014, 08:28:14 PM
The problem is, if the chap isnt living at the bail address! The fact he isnt allowed in the same town indicates he may have been charged with a criminal offence? If he will be living with you then do it......if he isnt then dont!
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: mc101 on April 24, 2014, 08:34:41 PM
Why don't you leave a big sign on the garden gate ...

Please leave your shit on my doorstep.

They didn't arrest him, charge him or insist on bail without some grounds.
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Maddog on April 24, 2014, 08:48:35 PM
 :iamwithstupid:
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: ash on April 24, 2014, 08:56:13 PM
He should be giving the addy for where he is staying. If that isn't with you, then you may find yourself on some dodgy assisting an offender/perverting the course of justice/etc type charge
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: David W on April 25, 2014, 06:54:11 AM
Minefield.  Unless he's a good personal friend and you're completely convicted he's innocent I'd be inclined to tell him to do one.

Unless of course he's beaten his wife up, in which case invite him in and then beat him unrecognisable in your kitchen so he knows how domestic violence works from the other point of view?
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Green_Ninja on April 25, 2014, 07:12:07 AM
Just NO
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Millhouse on April 25, 2014, 08:05:50 AM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on April 25, 2014, 07:12:07 AM
Just NO

Unless you know him REALLY WELL.

Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: mc101 on April 25, 2014, 08:33:11 AM
Quote from: David W on April 25, 2014, 06:54:11 AM
Unless of course he's beaten his wife up, in which case invite him in and then beat him unrecognisable in your kitchen so he knows how domestic violence works from the other point of view?
:sign5:  :rofl:
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Nat on April 25, 2014, 09:31:07 AM
I agree with Danoir generally - do a good turn and all, but this person is the cousin of a friend - there should be plenty of other people on the list to call on first - his own parents, siblings, friends, friends of his own friends etc... 
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Alzo on April 25, 2014, 10:54:31 AM
The answer is "No"...life can throw enough shit without inheriting others.
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Ninjagirl on April 25, 2014, 04:25:13 PM
It's one thing helping a mate out, it's another having the police turn up looking for someone you don't know when he doesn't check in and they're at your front door asking you questions you have no answer to. Plus i'm assuming it's meant to be be the address he'll be living at while on bail, and i'm presuming he won't be which is an instant breach of his bail conditions.

Why isn't your friend using his own address if it's his cousin?
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: 0luke0 on April 25, 2014, 04:26:37 PM
would he do the same for you?
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Bunny on April 25, 2014, 04:43:50 PM
Screw that............no from me on the voting front
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: villieb on April 25, 2014, 09:09:15 PM
Thanks for the advice guys.

I didnt realise that this would get this much feedback.

I ended up not giving my address because I wasnt comfortable about it and not sure of any future implications.

Again... thanks for the input and thoughts!
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Maddog on April 26, 2014, 12:41:52 AM
Well done mate. Dont feel too bad....you made the right choice
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Gilby104 on April 28, 2014, 04:31:10 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on April 24, 2014, 08:13:06 PM
Do a bloke a solid turn and face the prospect of a little bit of inconvenience if things turn sour?

never pass up an opportunity to do something nice for someone...... especially if it requires no more effort than to utter the word "yes".

Danoir I am normally completely on your wavelength with this sort of thing and I'm all for seeing the good in people and helping out. In this case though you know you're signing up to something that isn't technically true.... I actually don't have too much of a problem with this - down with the system and all that!

The problem I forsee, and the reason I'd have stayed away from it is that when the police come rapping on the door and ask if he is living there or not you'll be expected (or could be expected) to go along with the story. Then you are faced with perverting the course of justice if you go along with the lie or dropping your new mate in it if you don't.

You've then lead yourself willingly into making a new enemy.... one is the state and the other is an accused miscreant.... I'd wager neither side will be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for originally trying to be a solid thoroughly bloody nice bloke.
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Codes on April 28, 2014, 05:51:40 PM
Your bail address is where your supposed to be living, been on bail lot in the past (nothing to be proud of)
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on April 28, 2014, 08:00:06 PM


I should have added the caveat "ignore my advice". Still think the whole thing would have ended in a group hug and MASSIVE high 5 had my recommendation been followed......... But we'll never know now because of you cynical old bastids
Title: Re: advise needed on giving my address as bail for a friend's cousin
Post by: Gilby104 on April 29, 2014, 09:40:22 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on April 28, 2014, 08:00:06 PM


I should have added the caveat "ignore my advice". Still think the whole thing would have ended in a group hug and MASSIVE high 5 had my recommendation been followed......... But we'll never know now because of you cynical old bastids

:rofl: