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Title: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 30, 2014, 05:15:04 PM
So, after the awesomeness of yesterday's track day, I'd now like to add a sports bike to the garage here at Danoir Towers..... the criteria:

- Under £7K
- Exotic
- Won't hemorrhage money
- Future classic
- Looks the bollocks

So far, my list contains:
Ducati 999
Ducati 848
Ducati 1098
KTM RC8
Honda SP1/2
MV F4

Thoughts?
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: komp on July 30, 2014, 05:26:09 PM
all good choices
is this mainly for road or track use?

if road out of those prob RC8 for me
track... probably the RC8 again if you can get it through noise testing :)
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: 7550 on July 30, 2014, 05:27:25 PM
ZX6R B1.  Maxton suspension. Full Akky. Power commander. Ohlins steering damper. Black powder coated frame. £3k.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 30, 2014, 05:34:45 PM
Grumpy.... how is a B1 exotic?

Komp.... it's for garage bling and occasional road use where it will be thrashed up and down the cat and fiddle.... two or three times a year I'll ride it to do a track day.

The 999 is perfect for this as I've been using one recently.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Green_Ninja on July 30, 2014, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 30, 2014, 05:34:45 PM
Grumpy.... how is a B1 exotic?

Komp.... it's for garage bling and occasional road use where it will be thrashed up and down the cat and fiddle.... two or three times a year I'll ride it to do a track day.

The 999 is perfect for this as I've been using one recently.

so get a 999  ;)
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Alzo on July 30, 2014, 05:53:14 PM
A 999.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: 7550 on July 30, 2014, 06:05:13 PM
OOPS, never seen exotic in your list. B1 is a future classic though and does not require an AA membership like most on your list  ;)

Out of your list it would have to be an SP1/2.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 30, 2014, 06:10:49 PM
out of your list as say 1098 without a doubt if you can find a decent one for 7k..
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 30, 2014, 06:28:45 PM
I'll take any on my list

I'm looking for additions to the list
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: m6rk on July 30, 2014, 06:32:59 PM
I think you should buy two yamaha r6's for some reason....

Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Alzo on July 30, 2014, 06:36:03 PM
Not exotic...but a real early R1 in mint order would make a great garage ornement...and occasional blast.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 30, 2014, 06:51:59 PM
Agreed alzo and I've got my eye on one
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 30, 2014, 06:59:59 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 30, 2014, 06:28:45 PM
I'll take any on my list

I'm looking for additions to the list
Honda rune
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 30, 2014, 07:29:38 PM
 :rolleyes: good one
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 30, 2014, 07:47:04 PM
granted its not 7k.... but id bloody love one!!
(http://newartcars.com/data_images/models/honda-rune/honda-rune-11.jpg)
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: captain sensible on July 30, 2014, 07:47:20 PM
What about a ns400r?
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: captain sensible on July 30, 2014, 07:48:40 PM
Go home carbon,  your drunk.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 30, 2014, 07:52:19 PM
have I not mentioned I own a Harley and have a beard?

fine!

(http://www.ducati.org/forums/attachments/other-marques/18049d1249078809-750-cc-sbk-would-you-choose-yamaha-20r7-20-205.jpg)

R7?
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: terry950sm on July 30, 2014, 07:58:49 PM
Try this

http://www.ktmforum.co.uk/950-990-supermoto/805425-2006-ktm-950sm-sale.html#post2596153

Nice comfortable ride, for the back lanes of Burnley and beyond.

Future classic as well
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Gobert on July 30, 2014, 08:00:53 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 30, 2014, 07:52:19 PM
have I not mentioned I own a Harley and have a beard?

fine!

(http://www.ducati.org/forums/attachments/other-marques/18049d1249078809-750-cc-sbk-would-you-choose-yamaha-20r7-20-205.jpg)

R7?

For sub £7k?
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 30, 2014, 08:32:42 PM
I can't see the pic, what is it?
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 30, 2014, 08:35:13 PM
Terry, as much as I've tried I just can't ride quickly upright.

I love the Buell and I'll keep it for bombing around on but the riding position will always be awkward to me
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 30, 2014, 08:56:16 PM
Quote from: Gobert on July 30, 2014, 08:00:53 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 30, 2014, 07:52:19 PM
have I not mentioned I own a Harley and have a beard?

fine!

(http://www.ducati.org/forums/attachments/other-marques/18049d1249078809-750-cc-sbk-would-you-choose-yamaha-20r7-20-205.jpg)

R7?

For sub £7k?
if he don't require an engine or wheels or forks then maybe?
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Bunny on July 30, 2014, 08:57:15 PM
If I had the money it would be an 848
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Dom1 on July 30, 2014, 10:29:08 PM
In the window of the bike shop next door to the chinese tonight....

http://www.motorbiking.co.uk/sales/show.php?id=2866&srt=make%20ASC&p=100&page=1 (http://www.motorbiking.co.uk/sales/show.php?id=2866&srt=make%20ASC&p=100&page=1)


And

http://www.motorbiking.co.uk/sales/show.php?id=2900&srt=make%20ASC&p=100&page=1 (http://www.motorbiking.co.uk/sales/show.php?id=2900&srt=make%20ASC&p=100&page=1)



Admitted the KTM is over the budget but they both looked lovely.



Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: terry950sm on July 30, 2014, 10:54:52 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 30, 2014, 08:35:13 PM
Terry, as much as I've tried I just can't ride quickly upright.

I love the Buell and I'll keep it for bombing around on but the riding position will always be awkward to me

You need to get out on the Buell. We near enough pass your neck of the woods each time we go out.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 30, 2014, 11:00:31 PM
get the 999 that one is almost identical to my old one, great little bike
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 31, 2014, 07:47:55 AM
Quote from: terry950sm on July 30, 2014, 10:54:52 PM
You need to get out on the Buell. We near enough pass your neck of the woods each time we go out.

I know Terry and I keep meaning to. I do Settle, Hawes, Kirkby Lonsdale regularly.

Hopefully catch up with you soon!!
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 31, 2014, 07:49:59 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 30, 2014, 11:00:31 PM
get the 999 that one is almost identical to my old one, great little bike

I love them to bits and they really suit my riding style.

I'm not in to racing paint scheme's though.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2014, 08:17:43 AM
I did prefer the 1098 though and I owned the 999 for 3 years
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 31, 2014, 08:28:30 AM
I'm sure I'd love a 1098.... my current order:

1 - MV F4
2 - KTM RC8
3 - Any of the Ducati's
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2014, 08:32:17 AM
which f4 though
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Bullet on July 31, 2014, 08:32:35 AM
spotting a big V twin theme to your list!

what about an Aprilia RSV1000R

hard to get more bling on an exotic italian V twin for the money in my opinion, I only got an sp1 because I couldnt afford the aprilia!

(http://www.moto-station.com/ttesimages/motodivers/nouveautes2006/Aprilia_RSV1000R-Fac_st4mz)
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 31, 2014, 08:33:52 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2014, 08:32:17 AM
which f4 though

early 750's float my boat
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2014, 08:36:18 AM
not the thou then.......
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 31, 2014, 08:37:19 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2014, 08:36:18 AM
not the thou then.......

if one came up at the right money, of course
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2014, 08:41:00 AM
good man! was worried for a moment
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 31, 2014, 09:10:08 AM
Going to look at this bad boy on my way home:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2010-KTM-1190-RC8-BLACK-not-cbr-gsxr-r1-r6-/111422926492?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item19f152ee9c

Slightly put off by the location
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2014, 09:12:03 AM
nooooo you need an orange or a white one!
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 31, 2014, 09:19:11 AM
Why?
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2014, 09:28:38 AM
Kawasaki ninjas are ment to be green ,yamahas blue, Hondas red ,ducatis red and ktms orange!!!

plus I think they look better and well better resale value
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2014, 09:30:24 AM
unless its this one, the exception to the rule!
(http://www.colwynbaymotorcycles.com/ktm/files/2013/02/BLACK-RC8-14.jpg)
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: komp on July 31, 2014, 09:31:26 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 31, 2014, 09:10:08 AM
Going to look at this bad boy on my way home:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2010-KTM-1190-RC8-BLACK-not-cbr-gsxr-r1-r6-/111422926492?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item19f152ee9c

Slightly put off by the location

that and lack of punctuation
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 31, 2014, 09:36:36 AM
Quote from: komp on July 31, 2014, 09:31:26 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on July 31, 2014, 09:10:08 AM
Going to look at this bad boy on my way home:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2010-KTM-1190-RC8-BLACK-not-cbr-gsxr-r1-r6-/111422926492?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item19f152ee9c

Slightly put off by the location

that and lack of punctuation

shocking isn't it?
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: MOzZereLLa on July 31, 2014, 10:31:13 AM
Dan. Be very careful buying a used RC8.

Lots out there are unsold 2008 bikes wearing later plates. Lots of early bikes have shocking fuelling or many recalls that needed carrying out.

Suggest you view, check its VIN number and then contact a KTM dealer to find out the exact age of the bike and whether it has any recalls outstanding.

A decent RC8 will have an Oberon clutch master cylinder and hopefully either a PC111 or PCV with a decent remap (even with the stock exhaust).
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Gilby104 on July 31, 2014, 10:35:54 AM
Quote from: Bullet on July 31, 2014, 08:32:35 AM
spotting a big V twin theme to your list!

what about an Aprilia RSV1000R

hard to get more bling on an exotic italian V twin for the money in my opinion, I only got an sp1 because I couldnt afford the aprilia!

(http://www.moto-station.com/ttesimages/motodivers/nouveautes2006/Aprilia_RSV1000R-Fac_st4mz)

Danoir, I have been just beaten to this thread.... my mate Cham who a few of you lot met on a trackday at Brands has the 1098 and had come from the Aprilia. He maintains, hands down that the Aprilia is a better bike to ride on both road and track. I am sure they both have pro's and cons for ownership but if it's just to ride the bloody thing then that is most definitely where he would advise you spent your money. Maybe worth a try?

Hope that's of some assistance my dear fellow.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: tucola on July 31, 2014, 10:52:21 AM
Quotenooooo you need an orange or a white one!

Hmm, I like that in black.

Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Nat on July 31, 2014, 11:11:32 AM
Doubt you'll have more fun than on one of these, you won't need to charge it between rides as, in my experience, they always start!  Not exactly exotic, but definitely a classic.  And I'm biased.

(http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/252078/images/300x200/05honda-c90.jpg)

Okay, maybe not...
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Gobert on July 31, 2014, 02:41:56 PM
Nice looking but really gutless............here you go........

http://pbmagforum.co.uk/index.php?/topic/51087-mv-agusta-750-f4-11/ (http://pbmagforum.co.uk/index.php?/topic/51087-mv-agusta-750-f4-11/)
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 31, 2014, 03:01:06 PM
linky-no-worky
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Gobert on July 31, 2014, 03:08:14 PM
Mv 750 f4 , red and silver, 15700 miles, 12 months tax and MOT, just been serviced and had new cush drive rubbers fitted. Fitted with pc3, rear sets, crg clutch lever and brembo master cylinder. A few age related  marks it is 14 years old. classic insurance eligible. £5250.

Lowering the price to £4750, but this is a fixed price no offers.

Going on ebay this weekend.

Those are his 3 posts - not sure why you can't see it - maybe you have to be a member?
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on July 31, 2014, 03:10:25 PM
Very cheap......
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on July 31, 2014, 03:16:26 PM
(http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-buy-it-now-6.png)
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: captain sensible on July 31, 2014, 04:03:18 PM
i have a feeling that is coming up to one of its major services, and that might be why he is selling it as they are not cheap by any means, have a look at an maintainence manual as that one i think involves taking the front of the bike apart.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: MOzZereLLa on July 31, 2014, 04:12:38 PM
Personally, I wouldn't touch an old MV with a 10ft barge pole.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Gobert on July 31, 2014, 04:22:31 PM
Totally agree.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 01, 2014, 08:15:21 AM
I'd love one, but I'd rather pay a little more for a mint well looked after example.
Title: Re: oh joy... a 'what bike' thread....
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 01, 2014, 08:15:56 AM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on July 31, 2014, 10:31:13 AM
Dan. Be very careful buying a used RC8.

Lots out there are unsold 2008 bikes wearing later plates. Lots of early bikes have shocking fuelling or many recalls that needed carrying out.

Suggest you view, check its VIN number and then contact a KTM dealer to find out the exact age of the bike and whether it has any recalls outstanding.

A decent RC8 will have an Oberon clutch master cylinder and hopefully either a PC111 or PCV with a decent remap (even with the stock exhaust).

that was really useful thanks