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Title: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: m6rk on August 02, 2014, 01:58:43 PM
So within 3 days i've sold both my r6 trackbike and r6 roadbike..

r6 2004 roadbike bought in 2011 for £2450 with 8k on the clock. Sold yesterday with 16k on the clock for £2700
r6 2004 track bike bought in 2008 for £2600 many many trackdays later sold for £2750

I know i'm amazingly talented when it comes to buying / selling but even so have used prices gone up in the past few years??

in other news an empty garage makes me sad..
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 02:01:31 PM
ive noticed that aswell and it is summer and its best time to sell
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: 0luke0 on August 02, 2014, 02:08:32 PM
I know, used bikes are really holding their value.

Look at the 2005 ZX6R C1H, you could get them for £5000 on 0% finance in 2006, now they are worth £3000 secondhand!!  That's awesome value!
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 02, 2014, 02:29:12 PM
Hold on lads....... I'm about to buy a bike....... prices always inflate when I'm in the market.

Get them sold while you can because as soon as I've bought one, the market will shit itself again.

Every bike I ever want is as rare as rocking horse shit while I'm looking..... as soon as I buy one, you can't give the c*nts away.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 02:41:38 PM
prices will be dropping very soon as the weather gets worse
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 02, 2014, 02:54:30 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 02:01:31 PM
ive noticed that aswell and it is summer and its best time to sell

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 02:41:38 PM
prices will be dropping very soon as the weather gets worse

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/stir.gif)
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 03:08:31 PM
end of summer prices drop? FACT

but still bit of summer left so still high?

thought even you would have understood that danoir alas I was wrong
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: karlv on August 02, 2014, 03:16:34 PM
Dude??
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 02, 2014, 03:22:05 PM
Quote from: karlv on August 02, 2014, 03:16:34 PM
Dude??

Dude :-)

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 03:08:31 PM
end of summer prices drop? FACT

but still bit of summer left so still high?

thought even you would have understood that danoir alas I was wrong

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/f-p.gif)

my bad..... the GIF was meant to portray my incredulity at you stating the monumentally obvious..... fuckin...... TWICE!!!!

Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Thegodfather on August 02, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
Depends what your after. Try getting some sort of classic and the weather has no effect. I've been looking for a C90 or alike, and even shit non running barn finds with no V5 start at £300 ffs.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 03:37:00 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on August 02, 2014, 03:22:05 PM
Quote from: karlv on August 02, 2014, 03:16:34 PM
Dude??

Dude :-)

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 03:08:31 PM
end of summer prices drop? FACT

but still bit of summer left so still high?

thought even you would have understood that danoir alas I was wrong

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/f-p.gif)

my bad..... the GIF was meant to portray my incredulity at you stating the monumentally obvious..... fuckin...... TWICE!!!!
DAM IT DONT MKE ME TELL YOU A THIRD TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 02, 2014, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 03:37:00 PM
DAM IT DONT MKE ME TELL YOU A THIRD TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hehehehehehe..... you do make me giggle
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 03:42:01 PM
 :afro:
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Fastas...... on August 02, 2014, 05:11:51 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on August 02, 2014, 02:54:30 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 02:01:31 PM
ive noticed that aswell and it is summer and its best time to sell

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 02:41:38 PM
prices will be dropping very soon as the weather gets worse

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/stir.gif)

I actually did nearly piss myself laughing. Must be age!
:rofl:

M6rk it may have something to do with the prices of new bikes being fucking ridiculous now, pushes up the price of second hand? Or maybe it's got something to do with the time of year, you know, price high because of summer.......... :evil:
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Alzo on August 02, 2014, 05:19:45 PM
It's because it's summer...drops in the winter.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Millhouse on August 02, 2014, 05:47:37 PM
Maybe it's because you're an awesome buyer and seller man.



Or because it's Summer and prices are higher. They'll be lower in the winter I'd guess...
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: m6rk on August 02, 2014, 06:50:21 PM
i was thinking it might be seasonal variation maybe?
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 07:00:17 PM
Quote from: m6rk on August 02, 2014, 06:50:21 PM
i was thinking it might be seasonal variation maybe?
*looks round to see whose watching and nods in agreement*
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 02, 2014, 07:03:18 PM
I still maintain it's the way of things due to me being in the market for a new bike, and so the universe has seen fit to inflate prices.

At the exact moment I hand over my cash, you'll all feel a slight shift in the planetary alignment and all of a sudden, used motorcycles will be worth fuck all.

You'll be able to guess which particular model I chose, as people will be weighing band new ones in for scrap value.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: m6rk on August 02, 2014, 07:12:32 PM
in that case now i've sold mine could you buy a daytona 675 please..
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Millhouse on August 02, 2014, 08:52:26 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on August 02, 2014, 07:03:18 PM
I still maintain it's the way of things due to me being in the market for a new bike, and so the universe has seen fit to inflate prices.

At the exact moment I hand over my cash, you'll all feel a slight shift in the planetary alignment and all of a sudden, used motorcycles will be worth fuck all.

You'll be able to guess which particular model I chose, as people will be weighing band new ones in for scrap value.

Quote from: ben kenobe
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: ash on August 02, 2014, 09:19:21 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on August 02, 2014, 07:03:18 PM
I still maintain it's the way of things due to me being in the market for a new bike, and so the universe has seen fit to inflate prices.

At the exact moment I hand over my cash, you'll all feel a slight shift in the planetary alignment and all of a sudden, used motorcycles will be worth fuck all.

You'll be able to guess which particular model I chose, as people will be weighing band new ones in for scrap value.

The irony with this statement is that the smaller and lighter that your chosen bike is, the less it is worth.

My mate has got a scrap yard dealing with ally/copper/brass/steel/etc. I parked the B1 on his weighbridge to see how heavy it is (wet weight) with a full tank of fuel and he said '£10' as a lump which would have to be split and processed (180kg on the nail)

So that would make a Harley worth about £40  :grin:
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Fastas...... on August 02, 2014, 11:22:19 PM
Probably less in winter though...... ;-)
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: captain sensible on August 04, 2014, 03:46:49 PM
£30 and a packet of hobknobs sounds about right
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Phil_8 on August 04, 2014, 04:21:10 PM
I read an exclusive in MCN this week that said secondhand bikes sell for more money in the summer.

Could be something to do with that?
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: MOzZereLLa on August 04, 2014, 05:35:46 PM
Only stupid people buy a new / used bike in Summer.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: tucola on August 04, 2014, 06:07:16 PM
Just depends whether the price is right or not, taking into account that it is worth a tangible amount to have the benefit of the bike for the best biking months, rather than getting a 'great' deal in December but having it sat in your garage until May depreciating while it is 4 degrees and pissing it down outside.

I bought my Daytona in June 2013, and was completely happy with the transaction.

Although I now urgently need someone to talk me out of the total financial insanity that would be chopping it in for a 899 Panigale...

In Summer...

When they're really scarce at dealerships...

And massively overhyped / jizzed over in the biking press...

And already artificially expensive anyway due to being Ducatis, and therefore bid up by irrational wealthy fool clientele (no offence Komp and other Ducati owners on here  ;))...

Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Nat on August 04, 2014, 08:07:38 PM
Quote from: tucola on August 04, 2014, 06:07:16 PM
Although I now urgently need someone to talk me out of the total financial insanity that would be chopping it in for a 899 Panigale...

As a woman, I'm very good at nagging men into not buying things - so if you need someone to talk you out of it, I'm your girl.

Oh, wait - no I'm not - I encourage people to buy things...

DO IT!!!
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: MOzZereLLa on August 04, 2014, 10:06:43 PM
Wait until approx Dec 23rd and I bet you'd get a great deal on an 899.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Alzo on August 04, 2014, 10:20:31 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on August 04, 2014, 10:06:43 PM
Wait until approx Dec 23rd and I bet you'd get a great deal on an 899.
They are selling well...local Ducati dealer is very happy with the demand.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: tucola on August 05, 2014, 06:37:30 AM
QuoteAs a woman, I'm very good at nagging men into not buying things - so if you need someone to talk you out of it, I'm your girl.

Oh, wait - no I'm not - I encourage people to buy things...

DO IT!!!

:laugh:

:moto:
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: m6rk on August 05, 2014, 09:26:21 AM
how much you after for the 675 tucola? ;-)
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 05, 2014, 09:27:51 AM
Quote from: m6rk on August 05, 2014, 09:26:21 AM
how much you after for the 675 tucola? ;-)
here we go.............

"you say a number then ill say a number im willing to pay....."
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Nat on August 05, 2014, 09:28:14 AM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on August 04, 2014, 10:06:43 PM
Wait until approx Dec 23rd and I bet you'd get a great deal on an 899.

Quote from: tucolaJust depends whether the price is right or not, taking into account that it is worth a tangible amount to have the benefit of the bike for the best biking months, rather than getting a 'great' deal in December but having it sat in your garage until May depreciating while it is 4 degrees and pissing it down outside.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 05, 2014, 09:56:02 AM
I've always subscribed to the mind set that if you want something, and if you can afford it, find a deal you're happy with and buy it.

The rest is vanity.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: komp on August 05, 2014, 10:15:01 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on August 05, 2014, 09:56:02 AM
I've always subscribed to the mind set that if you want something, and if you can afford it, find a deal you're happy with and buy it.

The rest is vanity.

+1
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: tucola on August 05, 2014, 10:47:46 AM
QuoteI've always subscribed to the mind set that if you want something, and if you can afford it, find a deal you're happy with and buy it.

The rest is vanity.

Well, please indulge me in a little vanity then... just toying with an idea and this site would be a poorer place if one could not do that...

Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 05, 2014, 11:20:25 AM
Quote from: tucola on August 05, 2014, 10:47:46 AM
QuoteI've always subscribed to the mind set that if you want something, and if you can afford it, find a deal you're happy with and buy it.

The rest is vanity.

Well, please indulge me in a little vanity then... just toying with an idea and this site would be a poorer place if one could not do that...

I'm sure we're at cross purposes......
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: tucola on August 05, 2014, 12:00:11 PM
Glad to hear it!

I'd read your reference to vanity along the lines of "if you want it and can afford it, just fuck off and buy it and enough with the "look at me I'm shy and boring somebody please stop me buying a Ducati" shite"!

To which the essence of my response was "well, to some extent perhaps, but this is a bike site after all and I'm just kind of shooting the shit here and indulging in a fantasy that will probably come to nothing, so I hope that people can at least afford me that"!

Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Millhouse on August 05, 2014, 12:09:28 PM
just buy the damn thing and post the ensuing "the wheels fell off but the dealer gave me a ducati branded golf tee as compensation!" thread here...


(Yes, I am jealous. Yes I want one too)


:embarrassed:
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: komp on August 05, 2014, 12:13:49 PM
Tuc I didnt read like that at all

I read it as a statement about how dan chooses to buy bikes
rather than worry about time of year, how much someone else could haggle it for and which way the wind is blowing
he would just go pay what he feels is right to pay
hence my +1

are you feeling a bit self concious today tuc?

I have been openly called stupid and an irrationally wealthy fool in this topic thus far by buying a ducati in june
:rofl:
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on August 05, 2014, 12:15:46 PM
aaahhhh we're definitely at cross purposes dear boy and I'm sorry that you read it that way.

this was more a dig at my dear friend Moz and his "stupid people buy bikes in summer" comment.

indulge....shoot shit.... you'll get nothing but support from me!!
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: tucola on August 05, 2014, 01:28:11 PM
:thumbleft:

:)

Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Alzo on August 05, 2014, 01:53:09 PM
Agree with indulge away...it's good to bat ideas around...I'm with Dan...I buy on the basis that I am happy in my mind with a deal...as for your purchase you are correct too...the 899 Panigale is definetly too expensive for the sum of its parts...but the hype and marketing men AND the Designers have all gelled and made a winner...so you buy with the heart and leave the head at home.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Dom1 on August 05, 2014, 01:58:17 PM
Just be aware that prices do attract a summer weighting as opposed to a winter keeness, although the riding experience may be reduced in winter overall.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: tucola on August 05, 2014, 02:27:45 PM
Hey, hang on a minute, if you had a big enough place to store them, you could arbitrage this, buying bikes in the Winter and selling them in the Summer.

Or what about a big boat? Buy 'em here in Winter and ship the damn things to Oz?

Or I suppose you could just nick them here in Winter and ship them to St Helena on a pallet...

Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: m6rk on August 05, 2014, 02:29:48 PM
so basically just sell it to me cheap, be sure to post about how awesome your ducarteee is and i'll post about what a bargain I got.. then wait till moz says something about them all being shit and how he's a pilot and awesome and you really want an xyz.. then pj will post something about leg hair removal, then dan will post something suitably dry, carbon might chime in with a joke he found in a christmas cracker and thus the equilibrium will be restored.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: m6rk on August 05, 2014, 02:30:29 PM
Quote from: m6rk on August 05, 2014, 02:29:48 PM
so basically just sell it to me cheap, be sure to post about how awesome your ducarteee is and i'll post about what a bargain I got.. then wait till moz says something about them all being shit and how he's a pilot and awesome and you really want an xyz.. then pj will post something about leg hair removal, then dan will post something suitably dry, carbon might chime in with a joke he found in a christmas cracker and thus the equilibrium will be restored.

sssssh thats my business model...
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Nat on August 05, 2014, 02:55:40 PM
Quote from: m6rk on August 05, 2014, 02:29:48 PM
so basically just sell it to me cheap, be sure to post about how awesome your ducarteee is and i'll post about what a bargain I got.. then wait till moz says something about them all being shit and how he's a pilot and awesome and you really want an xyz.. then pj will post something about leg hair removal, then dan will post something suitably dry, carbon might chime in with a joke he found in a christmas cracker and thus the equilibrium will be restored.

Brill :rofl: I think we need a separate thread on summing up other ninjas...'Ninjas in a Nutshell'!
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: MOzZereLLa on August 05, 2014, 04:31:13 PM
Anything you try and flog for obscene profit is shit M6rk............

Is this what you meant?

;)
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Nat on August 05, 2014, 08:08:52 PM
Everything that Moz hasn't chosen to buy, or ask loads of questions about without buying is shit.

More like that ;)
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Jarse on August 05, 2014, 10:31:01 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on August 02, 2014, 02:54:30 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 02:01:31 PM
ive noticed that aswell and it is summer and its best time to sell

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on August 02, 2014, 02:41:38 PM
prices will be dropping very soon as the weather gets worse

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/stir.gif)

Tears.
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Coxy on August 14, 2014, 04:28:24 PM
This thread has entertained me highly, its a bit like the old days, thank you :-)
Title: Re: what is going on with bike prices?
Post by: Rubio on September 05, 2014, 09:38:51 PM
I just hate the fuckin Eagles man