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Maintenance & Repair => Suspension => Topic started by: 0luke0 on October 21, 2014, 06:44:27 PM

Title: Race Suspension Service
Post by: 0luke0 on October 21, 2014, 06:44:27 PM
looking at racing next year so want to get the forks and shock serviced on my 675 before the season starts.  I have a TTX rear and 30mm Ohlins kit in the forks.

Who do you recommend? HM Racing? 100%? MCT?  I think I need a lighter spring and/or revalving on the rear as I'm chewing up tyres.

All advice appreciated!

Cheers

Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: Millhouse on October 21, 2014, 06:48:17 PM
1-600-Matt on here did a course for bouncies last year, set up my tona at donny in 10 mins flat. Worth asking him where he did it, iirc it included servicing a shock...
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on October 21, 2014, 07:14:23 PM
hm racing will more than sort you out great guys good prices
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: 636steve on October 21, 2014, 08:06:47 PM
Just had the 750 suspension overhauled by 100% suspension.

Had the front forks re-valved and sprung with ktech bits for my weight and also had the Ohlins rear shock overhauled.

Had it set up by 'tyres 4 bikes' at brands hatch track day last Tuesday and he commented what a good job they had done to the front forks.

They even took them to Assen bsb meet and did them there and sent them back on the ktech truck so I would get them back a day earlier.

Cant  fault them at all.
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: ash on October 21, 2014, 09:09:23 PM
Quote from: 636steve on October 21, 2014, 08:06:47 PM
Just had the 750 suspension overhauled by 100% suspension.

Had the front forks re-valved and sprung with ktech bits for my weight and also had the Ohlins rear shock overhauled.

Had it set up by 'tyres 4 bikes' at brands hatch track day last Tuesday and he commented what a good job they had done to the front forks.

They even took them to Assen bsb meet and did them there and sent them back on the ktech truck so I would get them back a day earlier.

Cant  fault them at all.

How much ?
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: 636steve on October 21, 2014, 09:43:08 PM
For the front upgrade and the ohlins overhaul, it was just over £500. This was also amongst the cheapest of the quotes I received.
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: ash on October 21, 2014, 10:05:18 PM
The Ktech kit is £200 on its own so I guess that is a fair price. The co which reworked the mid valves on mine showed me both what ktech offer and what Kayaba put in to my B1 forks. The piston itself is very similar in shape, but what Ktech have done is offer a reworked mid valve with a pre assembled shim stack instead of the single washer which the OEM Kayaba assembly has. Ktech enable anyone with the right spanners and spring compressors to swap the OEM kit out for theirs, but there is a price attached for the convenience. It worked out to about £80 for Darren at Tillit to replicate the Ktech kit with the original Kayaba mid valve, but then I was paying for probably about £5 worth of shims and a few hours of his time. It was money very well spent and I'm pleased I've got it in my doorstep.
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: 636steve on October 21, 2014, 10:12:35 PM
What amazed me was Colin @ 100% set the front and rear up almost perfectly before he sent them back.
They were only changed by 1 or 2 clicks to tune it to me.
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: ash on October 21, 2014, 10:15:37 PM
Quote from: 636steve on October 21, 2014, 10:12:35 PM
What amazed me was Colin @ 100% set the front and rear up almost perfectly before he sent them back.
They were only changed by 1 or 2 clicks to tune it to me.

That I would guess be the knowledge of years of fitting them in his head ;)
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: MOzZereLLa on October 22, 2014, 12:20:54 PM
Do you guys lauding HM Racing mean MH Racing?

Mark Hammond is a genius and ex Ohlins technician I think that still does work for them from time to time.

He'd be my recommendation.

http://www.mhracing.com


Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on October 22, 2014, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on October 22, 2014, 12:20:54 PM
Do you guys lauding HM Racing mean MH Racing?

Mark Hammond is a genius and ex Ohlins technician I think that still does work for them from time to time.

He'd be my recommendation.

http://www.mhracing.com
no

http://www.hmracing.co.uk/
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: komp on October 22, 2014, 01:03:31 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on October 22, 2014, 12:28:08 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on October 22, 2014, 12:20:54 PM
http://www.mhracing.com

http://www.hmracing.co.uk/

i bet that causes a bit of confusion
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: MOzZereLLa on October 22, 2014, 01:36:03 PM
Ahh I see. So one sets up trackbikes and the other is a ex-Factory Ohlins technician who still does work for them in MotoGP and World Motocross from time to time.

I know who I'd use ;)

Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: 0luke0 on October 22, 2014, 01:59:13 PM
Hadn't heard oh mh racing, cheers moz
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: 0luke0 on October 24, 2014, 09:43:20 PM
Spoke to Mark of MH Racing today, going to drop them down to him Monday.

Cheers for the help
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: MOzZereLLa on October 24, 2014, 10:35:14 PM
Hope it all works out for you. He set up my V4 Tuono for me. Superb knowledge.
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: Snozzeltoff on October 24, 2014, 10:45:14 PM
I had my standard suspension reworked and set up by MH racing based on what Moz had said. Excellent service, turned up, set up, blast around the block, a few more tweaks and job done.
I've no experience with the race set up side of things, but there was plenty of shiny Ohlins kit about and his background would suggest he knows his stuff.
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: 1-600-matt on October 29, 2014, 04:08:40 PM
Quote from: 0luke0 on October 24, 2014, 09:43:20 PM
Spoke to Mark of MH Racing today, going to drop them down to him Monday.

Cheers for the help

Bit late weighing in on this one. I went to MH racing for a shock and fork service and setup on my gsxr. Seemed like a decent job, but I could never get on with that bike.

But then I found reactive suspension up in York doing suspension courses, so I went and did 3 of 4 days training, servicing my own WP shock from the b1 and learning about theory and setup. I think Gareth of reactive is the best suspension guys I have spoke to, he is an engineer by trade and was technician to the likes of Haga and to Reynolds when he won the BSB championship. He knows his stuff for sure and doesn't just throw cartridge kits or Ohlins at a problem when he can modify stock stuff to get a good result. I would trust him to do a proper job.

I went to reactive to learn about suspension as some of the support offered at trackdays for £50+ fee was clearly a combination of guessing, bullshit, magazine reading and wishful thinking... and I won't be using any further glorified tyre fitters to twiddle with my suspension any more.
Title: Re: Race Suspension Service
Post by: 1-600-matt on October 29, 2014, 04:14:03 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on October 21, 2014, 06:48:17 PM
1-600-Matt on here did a course for bouncies last year, set up my tona at donny in 10 mins flat. Worth asking him where he did it, iirc it included servicing a shock...

Yeah the shock servicing course included stripping it down yourself and doing a full service. You did need to add the cost of consumables onto it, but it was much the same price as giving it to someone else to service.