jeeesus.
It's certainly fallen out of the ugly tree!!!
I was about to make a post about this. Ugly as fook!
(http://i2.wp.com/www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/2015-Yamaha-YZF-R1-01.jpg)
More photos here (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/2015-yamaha-yzf-r1-leak/)
It looks like the bastard child of a gixxer and an aprillia!
(http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/pg-photo/2014/05/02/0ap2000000346353/16-dallas-cowboys-jar-jar-binks_pg_600.jpg?01AD=3FX53LRfYZy16CV2H6tBh3vnJHl_DmlX0qb9iuCoQcf4FoFnojcco0w&01RI=AF1380731F9461B&01NA=)
Screams aprilla that
Love it. It's an M1 with the most subtle but legal lights they could get away with.
Can't wait to see it in the flesh. Decision close to made.
Makes the bug eyed panzer look pretty by comparison
Tail tidy, new exhaust, paint the bottom of the fairing(below the engine only) black and that would be sweet. :moto: :moto:
I like the look of the front if im honest, would have to see it in person or atleast front on
I heard the news - rushed to look at pics of it - then came straight on here to check my eyes/sanity.
Thankfully my mind has been eased by you lot.
IT'S FOUL! - I honestly couldn't own that.
Wouldn't want to let a mate keep one in my garage for fear of it scaring my lovely Gixer!
front on , looks like a squished panigale
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on November 04, 2014, 09:15:21 AM
front on , looks like a squished panigale
That's about the kindest comment I could level at it.
Maybe if the afterthought, Maplins spotlights could be easily removed it might look better.
Sad, sad fall from such an iconic looking bike as the R1.
I don't care if its got cranks hewn from pure unobtantium & the power to weight of a carbon-fibre Antonov,....they're all crazy good on the road - for me it's got to make me want to go into the garage to look at it without even needing to ride it.
First thought was that it's horrendous but I think once it's around for a bit and you see a few that'll soften.
What I do wonder is whether the looks will age fantastically badly or fantastically well - it'll be one of those I'm fairly sure!
Reminds me of the same reactions the 2008 Fireblade got.
It's a gorgeous bike. The frame, swingarms & wheels are works of art. The can is actually as unobtrusive as I've seen on an emissions strangled road bike, the tank is identical to the M1s as is the nose profile. The only thing letting it down are the lights but they had to go somewhere.
Compared to the road H2 Yamaha have got it spot on.
You lot have no idea ;-)
Well even the fact that it divides opinion is a backwards step for the R1 in my opinion.
I don't ever remember hearing anyone say they didnt like the looks of the first few R1's.
Then again, Yamaha obviously didnt have access to skip-load of BMW R1150GS fog lamps when they designed the first few models.
I imagine it will make a superb track bike - & track use will have the added advantage that most people will replace the fairings with cheap race stuff, instantly rendering it 3 times better looking.
Looks like its down to Honda to rescue some Japanese dignity in the looks department with their all new bike.
Have you seen the road going RCV?
Looks great but I suspect it will have a 6 figure price tag.
R1 closely followed by the S1R.
Hate to say it Whoopee but Suzuki are getting left behind both in design and tech.
its ok
anyone who says it looks good needs a fucking hard slap. it's gopping, no wonder rossi and lorenzo looked so fucking sheepish on the stage with it, it's like a backward-cross-eyed, buck toothed cousin (stoner??) that just shat itself and started rubbing it in it's hair!
and when rossi was asked to kiss it you could see his face run away from the bike!!
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 04, 2014, 06:55:47 AM
Love it. It's an M1 with the most subtle but legal lights they could get away with.
Can't wait to see it in the flesh. Decision close to made.
the frequency at which I'm finding myself in agreement with Mozoir is beginning to arise some concern.
but yes, I love it too......
Millhouse,
I was trying to be more diplomatic but I have to say I agree with you completely.
I genuinely got a surprise when I saw THAT thing this morning.
Moz,
Each to their own of course but I really don't care anymore about "falling behind" with technology anymore.
The big problem the designers of the Hyper-bikes is - as far as I see it......by the mid-noughties they had made bikes that were easily as good as anyone could ever want for the road, however, because a sports motorcycle is often a "hobby-vehicle" there are still tens of thousands of them still about in great condition, with low miles going for a few thousand quid. SO----if they are going to still try & sell us pointlessly competent bikes, they at least need to look STUNNING. Not - some like it - some don't - like say the KTM RC8 - but one that EVERYONE agrees is wonderful like the first 916 - or dare I say it - the first R1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder of course - I just think I'd need a few pints to love that thing.
Quote from: whoopee on November 04, 2014, 11:59:01 AM
Millhouse,
I was trying to be more diplomatic but I have to say I agree with you completely.
I genuinely got a surprise when I saw THAT thing this morning.
Moz,
Each to their own of course but I really don't care anymore about "falling behind" with technology anymore.
The big problem the designers of the Hyper-bikes is - as far as I see it......by the mid-noughties they had made bikes that were easily as good as anyone could ever want for the road, however, because a sports motorcycle is often a "hobby-vehicle" there are still tens of thousands of them still about in great condition, with low miles going for a few thousand quid. SO----if they are going to still try & sell us pointlessly competent bikes, they at least need to look STUNNING. Not - some like it - some don't - like say the KTM RC8 - but one that EVERYONE agrees is wonderful like the first 916 - or dare I say it - the first R1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder of course - I just think I'd need a few pints to love that thing.
In terms of design the gixer is starting to look pretty aged now but I'd still choose it over the messier looking R1 or the Kawasaki I think. The BMW and the Honda are the ones I'd be happy polishing at the bottom of my driveway waiting for people to look at me whilst I shy and boringly go about my business.
As for the tech, it seems to me a lot of the advances now are making things better and easier to ride as opposed to making them faster. I'm all for that.
Only bit of it I don't like is having all the catalyst guts hanging out of the bottom, but I'm guessing it gets too hot to hide behind a fairing.
Quote from: whoopee on November 04, 2014, 11:59:01 AM
Millhouse,
I was trying to be more diplomatic but I have to say I agree with you completely.
I genuinely got a surprise when I saw THAT thing this morning.
Moz,
Each to their own of course but I really don't care anymore about "falling behind" with technology anymore.
The big problem the designers of the Hyper-bikes is - as far as I see it......by the mid-noughties they had made bikes that were easily as good as anyone could ever want for the road, however, because a sports motorcycle is often a "hobby-vehicle" there are still tens of thousands of them still about in great condition, with low miles going for a few thousand quid. SO----if they are going to still try & sell us pointlessly competent bikes, they at least need to look STUNNING. Not - some like it - some don't - like say the KTM RC8 - but one that EVERYONE agrees is wonderful like the first 916 - or dare I say it - the first R1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder of course - I just think I'd need a few pints to love that thing.
Absolutely no issue Whoopee - as you say, each to their own, eye of the beholder etc.
I like the Suzuki but I have to say their absence from MotoGP and top level racing (i.e. WSB) not going at all well is beginning to hurt their development. Its a shame as the days of the all conquering K5 thou etc were heady.
I have to say, the big bang engine is so good I don't really care what they dress it in but I am a fan of the new bike. I have always said function over form anyhow so never care what a bike looks like within reason as long as it does the job.
And Millhouse, you slap me, I'll bomb your house..... ;)
I think it looks immense...not Panigale stunning...but pretty robust looking...it's the Moto GP look for the road...it's a winner.
I like and waits for slap :shocked:
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 04, 2014, 03:52:18 PM
And Millhouse, you slap me, I'll bomb your house..... ;)
how about a kick in the foot then? :rofl:
Millhouse and Moz captured on CCTV discussing the relative merits of the new R1's aesthetics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCwLirQS2-o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCwLirQS2-o)
Quote from: Millhouse on November 04, 2014, 05:01:33 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 04, 2014, 03:52:18 PM
And Millhouse, you slap me, I'll bomb your house..... ;)
how about a kick in the foot then? :rofl:
50/50 chance you get the bad one!!!
A few more images to help make your minds up
(http://www.sportrider.com/sites/sportrider.com/files/styles/medium_1x_/public/148_1114_2015_yamaha_yzf_r1_010.jpg?itok=auS1D1hW)
(http://www.sportrider.com/sites/sportrider.com/files/styles/medium_1x_/public/148_1114_2015_yamaha_yzf_r1_003.jpg?itok=Vm-idXIs)
(http://www.sportrider.com/sites/sportrider.com/files/styles/medium_1x_/public/148_1114_2015_yamaha_yzf_r1_011.jpg?itok=PEIJ1EJW)
(http://www.sportrider.com/sites/sportrider.com/files/styles/medium_1x_/public/images/2014/11/148_1114_2015_yamaha_yzf_r1_015.jpg?itok=hICteSE2)
(http://i0.wp.com/www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/2015-Yamaha-YZF-R1-07.jpg?resize=635%2C635)
If the silver on the blue one was white, spot on.
Minds made up.
I like it lots.
If Kawasaki done this with the Motogp ZXRR i think i would have brought it!
Still not too sure about this bike though......
I will do a scientific test........beer goggles test
1 Beer down......still not sure
Stand by for update....
You know what they say about Dogs looking like their owners
(http://cdn.barkpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/dogsownerslook-likedogs.jpg)
Well if the bike also looks like it owner, my money is on the one on the right :grin:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10616516_10205222230174481_7473817995787849927_n.jpg?oh=3ad660b9fdb71db4a1dab161d5ed7c09&oe=54E56CB5&__gda__=1423960321_fecfd09f6ed7d70e9a2caeac84dc5ce8)
(http://www.sportrider.com/sites/sportrider.com/files/styles/medium_1x_/public/148_1114_2015_yamaha_yzf_r1_011.jpg?itok=PEIJ1EJW)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10426201_10152807815412346_1704215059331047653_n.jpg?oh=e4bb5cb1e9c718fc002ed82ed832fc16&oe=54E1F9FA&__gda__=1424984453_58143aa1ed459083e5e36ebadb41612f)
Radical...refreshing...moves the game on...and it will win many fans.
But many more haters
Haters is such a strong word...we all see things differently and that's a good thing....but hate...really?
:cool:
It's better looking than some of the sh*t Kwak are coming up with lately.
It's got an air of BMW about it though.
Quote from: ash on November 04, 2014, 09:51:12 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10426201_10152807815412346_1704215059331047653_n.jpg?oh=e4bb5cb1e9c718fc002ed82ed832fc16&oe=54E1F9FA&__gda__=1424984453_58143aa1ed459083e5e36ebadb41612f)
why does 2009-2014 front end look like an anime kitten?
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 04, 2014, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: whoopee on November 04, 2014, 11:59:01 AM
Millhouse,
I was trying to be more diplomatic but I have to say I agree with you completely.
I genuinely got a surprise when I saw THAT thing this morning.
Moz,
Each to their own of course but I really don't care anymore about "falling behind" with technology anymore.
The big problem the designers of the Hyper-bikes is - as far as I see it......by the mid-noughties they had made bikes that were easily as good as anyone could ever want for the road, however, because a sports motorcycle is often a "hobby-vehicle" there are still tens of thousands of them still about in great condition, with low miles going for a few thousand quid. SO----if they are going to still try & sell us pointlessly competent bikes, they at least need to look STUNNING. Not - some like it - some don't - like say the KTM RC8 - but one that EVERYONE agrees is wonderful like the first 916 - or dare I say it - the first R1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder of course - I just think I'd need a few pints to love that thing.
Absolutely no issue Whoopee - as you say, each to their own, eye of the beholder etc.
I like the Suzuki but I have to say their absence from MotoGP and top level racing (i.e. WSB) not going at all well is beginning to hurt their development. Its a shame as the days of the all conquering K5 thou etc were heady.
I have to say, the big bang engine is so good I don't really care what they dress it in but I am a fan of the new bike. I have always said function over form anyhow so never care what a bike looks like within reason as long as it does the job.
And Millhouse, you slap me, I'll bomb your house..... ;)
Moz,
Good on ya - I do respect your function over form standpoint....& I'm certain the R1 will be the best of the entire current crop on track.
Quote from: whoopee on November 05, 2014, 12:57:09 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 04, 2014, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: whoopee on November 04, 2014, 11:59:01 AM
Millhouse,
I was trying to be more diplomatic but I have to say I agree with you completely.
I genuinely got a surprise when I saw THAT thing this morning.
Moz,
Each to their own of course but I really don't care anymore about "falling behind" with technology anymore.
The big problem the designers of the Hyper-bikes is - as far as I see it......by the mid-noughties they had made bikes that were easily as good as anyone could ever want for the road, however, because a sports motorcycle is often a "hobby-vehicle" there are still tens of thousands of them still about in great condition, with low miles going for a few thousand quid. SO----if they are going to still try & sell us pointlessly competent bikes, they at least need to look STUNNING. Not - some like it - some don't - like say the KTM RC8 - but one that EVERYONE agrees is wonderful like the first 916 - or dare I say it - the first R1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder of course - I just think I'd need a few pints to love that thing.
Absolutely no issue Whoopee - as you say, each to their own, eye of the beholder etc.
I like the Suzuki but I have to say their absence from MotoGP and top level racing (i.e. WSB) not going at all well is beginning to hurt their development. Its a shame as the days of the all conquering K5 thou etc were heady.
I have to say, the big bang engine is so good I don't really care what they dress it in but I am a fan of the new bike. I have always said function over form anyhow so never care what a bike looks like within reason as long as it does the job.
And Millhouse, you slap me, I'll bomb your house..... ;)
Moz,
Good on ya - I do respect your function over form standpoint....& I'm certain the R1 will be the best of the entire current crop on track.
Will reserve judgement until the H2 comes out
The road H2 pictures are available and looks awful IMO.
Will it be a better road bike though??? That'll be the clincher maybe.
R1 all the way for me.
Considering a deposit this weekend.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 05, 2014, 02:32:35 PM
The road H2 pictures are available and looks awful IMO.
Will it be a better road bike though??? That'll be the clincher maybe.
R1 all the way for me.
Considering a deposit this weekend.
How much are they selling for?
Obviously not telling Mrs MOz but the rumour is £16k for the standard bike and £25K for the M.
The other option here is to keep the Banger for next summer and dip my toe into MotoGP for the road in 2016.
Yeah just visited nearest dealer site...poa is all that is available....one hell of a lot of money...899 Panigale is my bike of choice...quick enough...a few opportunities to ring its neck...the R1 will be a missile...and ultimately frustratingly awesome.
I appreciate what they have done with the lights. Everyone always says a bike looks much better in race trim, then is ruined by all the road stuff, so they have tried to tuck the lights away so it doesn't ruin the aesthetic.
Having said that. I am not a fan. But then, I havnt really liked any sportsbike from the last few years
My scientific review didnt go to well, however........i kind of like the track fairing look. Im not a lover of the exhaust side but id like to see it with the after market exhaust
Its weird how the Kawasaki iH2 didnt get as many reviews,opinions on this Ninja site!
Its weird that the Kawasaki H2 may not get as many reviews,opinions on this Ninja site!
Quote from: Maddog on November 05, 2014, 09:26:42 PM
Its weird that the Kawasaki H2 may not get as many reviews,opinions on this Ninja site!
Is it released in road trim yet?
Quote from: Alzo on November 05, 2014, 09:32:27 PM
Quote from: Maddog on November 05, 2014, 09:26:42 PM
Its weird that the Kawasaki H2 may not get as many reviews,opinions on this Ninja site!
Is it released in road trim yet?
Don't know how to embed YouTube, but found this interesting and amusing...
http://youtu.be/vAo0LWQFxdE
If it don't work type in Jay Leno garage.
Oh and and back on topic re: the R1... Il be sticking to Kawasaki's :moto:
Like the front end on it and that's about all tbh. Never been a Yamaha fan.
Yamaha's rule.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 06, 2014, 08:22:13 PM
Yamaha's rule.
:rofl: A Yams about the only make I can't remember you having Moz ;)
Ride it like a God until it is run in and then sell it ;)
Quote from: Thegodfather on November 06, 2014, 08:24:59 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 06, 2014, 08:22:13 PM
Yamaha's rule.
:rofl: A Yams about the only make I can't remember you having Moz ;)
Only a recent convert. Hugely impressive engine but lacking a bit of power and a bit lardy. The new one seems to have sorted all that out.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a72/MOz10R/DSC_6228_zps273da073.jpg)
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 06, 2014, 09:24:43 PM
lacking a bit of power and a bit lardy. The new one seems to have sorted all that out.
What was the bike like though?
looks like a trackbike on the road
that alone will make it popular.
Its the look a lot of mega money special one offs have been touting for years.
I for one don't look at it whilst hanging off it laughing maniacally...........therefore looks are secondary really.
For what its worth I like it
I like it ....
200bhp
Full throttle launch control !! Proper motogp shit that.
Slide control with the stock ECU or Programmable slide control with the YEC ECU upgrade. Proper motogp shit that too !
Anti Wheelie, Power modes, Pit Lane limiter --> been done but will undoubtely be good on the R1M.
So - R1, S1KR and RSV4 all new and for sure BHP aside the electronics are coming on a long long way.
Those brake calipers were first used 10 years ago on the 2004 model. You'd think they'd put something a bit more special on it considering the likely price tag and some of the competition running Brembo's as standard..?
Quote from: Sax on November 08, 2014, 09:46:51 AM
Those brake calipers were first used 10 years ago on the 2004 model. You'd think they'd put something a bit more special on it considering the likely price tag and some of the competition running Brembo's as standard..?
I think you'll find they are totally different. I doubt they were monoblocs in 04.
Also, considering how may people have used the Yamaha calipers on other bikes since they were introduced theto are hardly shit.
Why give Brembo money if you can make your own brakes...I feel certain they will be extremely capable.
In terms of the brakes, they clearly don't look as good as brembo GP4 or M4 monoblock but I bet the stock ones if mated with Z04 pads (track use only) I'm sure they'll prove more than capable for 99% of people.
Clearly those fussy over the looks too will whip them off and stick GP4 mono blocs on it (in nickel finish) :-)
The other thing is that although some companies fit Brembo's as OE they are not the same as even the entry level aftermarket Brembo's M4's. Just the same as the Ohlins shocks / forks that are fitted as OE to certain bikes.
When's yours coming Mark?
Quote from: Millhouse on November 09, 2014, 11:19:41 AM
When's yours coming Mark?
LOL if I were getting one thats an interesting question ! It appears that Yamaha doesnt really know when the UK ones are arriving as yet ...
I would fuckin love one of these, I think its likely to be THE bike to have in Superstock straight out of the box, another leap forward in terms of electronics, power to match the BMW and Kawasaki with the benefit of a crossplane motor. Slide control sounds cool as it could make me look and feel like a god as opposed to my accidentally induced, hamfisted slides without control on previous gens of R1.
I even like the look of the thing, its gonna look awesome in track trim. Looks like neither version is going to be particularly cheap though.
Get it bought Big Ron :cool:
Prices announced.
£14,995 for standard bike, £18,495 for the M.
£1000 better than expected.
Hmm, just saw that also.
You going to get one then?
Quote from: tucola on December 01, 2014, 02:00:57 PM
Hmm, just saw that also.
You going to get one then?
I'd love one but no new bike in 2015....
They would have to give me £15k to be seen on it....a disgrace of a machine...doesn't deserve to wear an R1 badge.
I predict it's going to wipe the floor with every other litre class bike out there on launch.
Couldn't give a shit what it looks like (and it looks great) if it does the job.
Is it really that bad in the flesh Alzo??
It honestly is...all banter aside it is terrible.
The M is a better price than I expected, still too rich for me but as specials go its not too crazy for those who can afford it.
Shame the base bike is so expensive but then the price of all the litres has been creeping up in recent years so its not alone. I expect th Americans are buying theirs for about a 3rd less though.
I'm with Moz, I think its going to clean up in Superstock if its as good as expected. May need a season or two in Superbike to develop with the advantage of the stock electronics out of the equasion but I'm sure the factory will be putting lots of effort in.
Must be about as close to a Moto GP bike that you can get given the electronics package and I even like the look of it. If I was still in the game and had the coin mine would be on order right now.
Its alright looking until you catch sight of the front of it. The headlights make it look bloody awful.
It's alright if you don't look at it....it could be as fast as a speeding bullet and I still wouldn't want one.
As always with a race bike look beyond the road gear :-)
YEC catalogue in my inbox :-)
If I opened my garage in the morning and had Admiral ackbar looking back at me, still wouldn't care what it looked like.
Mainly because I like the technical aspects more than the fashion.
Quote from: captain sensible on December 02, 2014, 08:31:17 AM
If I opened my garage in the morning and had Admiral ackbar looking back at me, still wouldn't care what it looked like.
Mainly because I like the technical aspects more than the fashion.
This....
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on December 02, 2014, 08:41:42 AM
Quote from: captain sensible on December 02, 2014, 08:31:17 AM
If I opened my garage in the morning and had Admiral ackbar looking back at me, still wouldn't care what it looked like.
Mainly because I like the technical aspects more than the fashion.
This....
replace ackbar with susan boyle and ask that question again!!
To be fair its been a while....
:rofl:
Quote from: captain sensible on December 02, 2014, 12:49:49 PM
To be fair its been a while....
and compared to the fuck nuts you work with, she's practically Rachel Riley
I met her once, very nice young lady, soft handshake.
It makes Susan Boyle look like Pamela Anderson.
Yamaha should scrap it now before it's too late.
It's a fucking M1 for the road - road bikes need lights. Ignore the lights and it looks fucking awesome. The lights don't look half bad.
You are all stupid, slow and blind.
The end.
I think it looks wonderful.
Clever design with the lights, instead of trying to make them a feature and failing (as with most road bikes), they've placed them discreetly within the fairing so the bike looks more race bike......
I'm with Moz..... you're all dead to me
Tail end awful...engine looks like an FJ1100 from the 90's...swingarm is horrendous...front is truly fucked up...the Panigale is Cinderella...the R1 is the two Ugly sisters fused together...it could time travel and it still wouldn't be good enough to put up with the looks.
Actually, Alzo has a point.....
:rofl:
If I had £18k spare then I'd buy one but then I own a ZZR14 and think that looks ok..........as others have posted how a bike goes is the important thing for me.
As for our far northern friend..........arn't you getting a naked BMW thou?............that's hit every branch of the ugly tree.....twice. ;)
Nasty.
That I am......... :azn:
to be honest the pic you posted is nicer than the others I've seen.
Quote from: Gobert on December 02, 2014, 06:29:43 PM
That I am......... :azn:
to be honest the pic you posted is nicer than the others I've seen.
:azn:...it's much better in the flesh...the camera doesn't do it justice....I'm a happy chappy... ;-)
Just think how much happier you be with that R1................
Quote from: Gobert on December 02, 2014, 06:42:04 PM
Just think how much happier you be with that R1................
:rofl: