Hi come to the forum looking for info I have had ZXR 900's first one was B4 mod then went to the R1 then back to E2
But as starting to get on a bit thought it would be good idea to go down in size so got my self a 636 2005 but having problems with suspension .
i live on Isle Of Wight are roads are full of pot holes lumps and bumps OK when you get used to it and get good setup on the bike. But this 636 has put a spanner in the works can not get it set up it is way to hard are they all like this ? I am asking as I know the bike I have has been on a lot of track day's more than road day's I think it is good in corners but on straight's I am having to back out of the power as the bike takes control of me not other way round on the bumps.
i have had other bikes and always been able to set them up but this 636 has me stumped any one got any idea's on it or point me at a posting i have looked around on the site but can not find anything seems to be front end more than back end ??????
Sorry to come on here with a problem right away
gord
Hi there.....
Is the bike a B1 or C1 ?
I'm guessing from what you have wrote, it's the B1
Sounds very much like a B1/B2 from the description of the rock hard suspension!
You can change the rear shock for a ZX10 of the same year, that will help :)
Avatar is a blue B1. Explains it.
B1 rear shocks are notoriously hard and IOW roads are notoriously crap.
Managed to swim the Solent and escape myself but we have a few members over there - Bullett, Wozzar & Kath to be specific.
You can also change the shock out for one out of a ZX636R C1 (2005/2006) as I have done as they have a softer spring
I have also backed the preload off by 1 ring on the forks. There is a thread it in the archive detailing what setting to have. Mine is working much better for that and isn't tracking anywhere near as much now. You'll have no problem selling the B1 shock on as the Bandit owners use them.
Read this
http://archive.mcnninjas.com/index.php?topic=31995.0 (http://archive.mcnninjas.com/index.php?topic=31995.0)
Welcome fellow islander :) I can sympathize having ridden a few zxr's with rock hard back ends on the island too! Best cure I found for my ZXR750 was a ZX10R rear shock, and a ZX7R rocker arm that made it more comfy, and a differant front tyre cured its head shaking problems..... No idea if thats any help but it made my bike better!
Nice to see not only islander on here and know the roads
It is not the back end that is really the problem but the front I am having to shut down at around the (very brisk ;) ) mark as the bike does what it want's to do rather than you pick a line ?
I have replaced fork oil wound them off on preload could not get heat into front tyer but dropped PSI down a bit that solved that one . have put new rubber on it BT's as i used on my 900 don't last long but they worked .
But this coming down to a 600cc i am wondering if done the right thing now as a number of places i have to back off to keep control of the bike
getting there with it have wound off rear shock spring dropped the forks 10mm backed off the preload and rebound on front . At least can hold a line now and don't have to back off over bumps any more .
Going to get it up on the bench over next week balence it take a look at shim's and do another oil change
has any one had a 636 and had clutch drag ? When this one is hot can't get it out of gear have to turn it off
In all happy with the bike in some ways it is faster than the 900 but do miss the extra power in 5th and 6th
Does any one go out for run's on the island? We do a rout that used to be called 12 rout 12 years ago on the R1's we been doing it most of this summer have not seen any one else out apart from car park at Blackgang prefer to ride the bike rather than look at it
Mine doesn't drag when hot
I'd be watching what you say on a public motorbike forum mate....
my B1 can be awkward getting gears when the chain is slack.
Quote from: MOz on August 01, 2013, 06:36:54 AM
I'd be watching what you say on a public motorbike forum mate....
sorted !
point taken.
only had problems 3rd to 4 th or 4th to 3rd if revs not up there and only a few times but i don't use clutch that seems to help
The clutch drag is when it is hot in town or just back from a ride
But over all pleased with the bike now that thing's are getting sorted engine braking is really good way different to the 900
On a side note to the island members if you have kid's on a Sunday afternoon we have a get together here on pit bikes we have a small track and i have dug a pit in with a digger to play in it is a kid's only thing.
Hello and welcome iow :cool:
Yep myself the other half are on here and live in Binstead. You may or may not have seen us about. Between us we have a black and white NC30, an HM plant Blade and a slate grey/black R6 that I crashed last week :cry:
What's the 12 Route you talk of? We've not been about much either on here or on the roads of late due to purchase of new house and other half away with work a lot.
We don't have children but that sounds like a fun thing for the little ones to do :cool:
it's a run we used to do some 12 year's ago start in newport out to Yarmouth just before cut across to middle road down to freshwater bay then milli to Niton back over Bleak Down . i live in Merstone so i start from here at home when I go out then back here I just done it tonight works out about 36 miles in all. it is state of the roads that hold you back now I really wish I had kept my old bike .
Hope you and R6 are OK got lot's of spare engine part's for R6 here I did engine change for some one a while ago
The Pit bikes I do for kid's on a Sunday afternoon my son is 12 now so he does most of it he is here 50% of the week (soon to be full time I hope) we have a small track here and hired a digger to dig pit out so something for all to do new to it or riding long time kid's like it they have no where else to ride bikes now. So they ride them me and a mate spend the day in workshop fixing them lol
Ah yes I know that route. I haven't been out for 'fun' for a long time now :undecided: our bikes are our only transport so it's just the Tescos run at the mo etc :embarrassed:
Merstone has some stunning houses but just lacking a little shop and a pub :tongue: we cycle through there a fair bit on the old track to Newport from Sandown.
R6 is having to go through insurance now sadly but thank you for the offer. :cool:
If you use the track on a Sunday afternoon just Newport side of old staion you can look across at the track there is a mobile home in the field the kid's ride there most Sunday's that is the back of my place .
Sorry to hear R6 is that bad hope they can fix it . My ZXR is a toy most of the time as have car as well but try to go out most evenings for the run on it . Put's me off a bit where I can not get the thing set up any softer do wish I had kept the ZXR 900 now .
Get the spring swapped out mister
it's not just the one front as well to hard
I have been trying to talk to owner's before me to see if it has been up rated for track use as i know the bike spent a lot of it's life on the track.
Setting's i have now is every thing wound off apart from some rebound I know sounds silly it is perfect in corners i hate the straight's .I know island roads are bad but i do have to take pain killer's before I go out and when I get back not kidding i spend a lot of time stood on peg's with my backside just off the seat.
So no point changing thing's till I know what i have to start with if that makes sense ? One of the owner's said he had springs changed got them from a company called Race tech but don't know if they still in there ??? I am 12 stone 10 and when I sit on the bike it does not move LOL next step for me is change fork oil I have Silkoline in there at mo am going to try ATF as that worked on the 900 .i have a set of R6 front forks here might try there springs if they fit.
Thing of it is it was fine on the mainland bringing the bike back from Linkenshire till i got on the island will get there in the end baby steps is the way to go
LIKE SELL IT
Yep I'm on the Island (formally Wozzar) before the site crashed. I had a ZX10 and that was shocking over here so can't really see that wold help a bundle. The roads are shit here thats for sure. I don't ride on the roads much now since my crash,,,,,,especially the early morning runs with mate, just got bonkers. Good luck sorting it out.
Used to live in Merstone myself in the White house right on the road, you will know which one I mean.
Have you considered getting the cartridges re done with a custom shim stack for your weight ?
Dom the white house is oppersite me Tony lives there i been here 23 year's now so not sure what one you mean ? I am in 1 of 4 but have the land out the back and large workshop always had bikes and boat's.
I used to do the run's 12 year's ago when had the R1 and before that the ZX9 R B4 model should have kept that ZXR best bike I had 14 k in a year never missed a beat.
I don't do morning's now lol so go out about 6.30 ish in evenings
As for this ZXR it is just so far out for the island you got to ride it like a crosser standing on peg's most of time think it is going to have to go .Not the bikes fault it is island roads the bike was made for the track as far as I can tell with lap counter and stop watch all built in . i have every thing wound right off and it is still way to hard for over here no give in it at all I have not been able to find out what was done apart from it was changed front and back .
going to keep it for this year now as season almost over but look for some thing else next year i think best place for this bike is back on mainland as to start playing with springs and shocks going to cost and don't know what my starting point is it could have anything in it ???? may be if i put on 4 or 5 stone it might change . Shame as the engine is some thing else it ride's like my 900 did with an extra 4k or revs just never stop's pulling even after change light comes on but it is also as happy down low rev's it don't like going slow as soon get's hot as i found out on the ride the other night i went on a ride for a lad that died over here first time for me to do it but 40 miles of 30 to 55 mph the fan was working hard
Blimey I would have been 12 when we lived there which makes it a long long time ago.
The lad who died was my best mates nephew - Danny Hayward.
Toney was inthe white house since before I came to live here he has been here a good few year's i think .
Yea was sad thing that is why did the run when asked but was slowest run i have done did feel a bit out of place they where all there nice clean bikes and gear I turned up dead fly's all over front of the bike my jacket not much better and jeans complete with holes in lol
Ash I think it has all ready been done by Race Teck this is the problem I don't know what is in it now .
I have seen a few other 636's over here on the island if i see one while out will try compare the two or get other person to take mine for a ride see what they say ? I can not see them making a ZXR so hard that you can not ajust it for all types of road first time I have had a bike I can not set up it loves corners sure footed no problem laying it down till you run out of tyre