Can have a red now or wait 5 weeks for a blue.
Red is fine apart from the centre of the brake disc is anodised red and it looks very chav....
Blue is the preference but I don't want to miss high season and want it run in for the end of June track day.
What to do?
I couldn't live with that red disc carrier either. Wait, it's gotta be blue!
f that - 5 weeks!
you wont see it when you are riding it :moto: :cool:
Quote from: 0luke0 on May 19, 2015, 02:44:16 PM
I couldn't live with that red disc carrier either. Wait, it's gotta be blue!
+1 regardless of the colour of the disk carrier.
I didn't even notice until you pointed it out, personally I don't think it would bother me but I do see what you mean.....
If you are that bothered by such a small part of the bike, change it! get them anodised a different colour (could probably be done overnight) or buy a set of PFM's or alike!
Quote from: Jonesy on May 19, 2015, 03:05:23 PM
If you are that bothered by such a small part of the bike, change it! get them anodised a different colour (could probably be done overnight) or buy a set of PFM's or alike!
This -- the standard disks will sell in seconds to the spare wheel/superstock paddock ..
PFM have OEM fitment carriers and rotors - aside from looking trick as f*ck they work extremely well ;-)
How much can you get them for?
https://www.google.co.uk/
Quote from: Jonesy on May 19, 2015, 03:19:27 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/
That wont answer my question specifically?
buy red and ask the shop to change them to black as part of the deal.
They can probably get the parts next day or take the bike, run it in and ask them to change them at the first service...
assuming you ride it that far before you sell it on..... :rofl:
Quote from: Farmer Giles on May 19, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
buy red and ask the shop to change them to black as part of the deal.
They can probably get the parts next day or take the bike, run it in and ask them to change them at the first service...
assuming you ride it that far before you sell it on..... :rofl:
Is exactly my current thinking. I'll know tomorrow. I'm a bit pissed off as I haven't seen either colour in the flesh yet and will have to travel miles to see a blue one. Lovely dilemma to have.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 19, 2015, 06:43:11 PM
Quote from: Farmer Giles on May 19, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
buy red and ask the shop to change them to black as part of the deal.
They can probably get the parts next day or take the bike, run it in and ask them to change them at the first service...
assuming you ride it that far before you sell it on..... :rofl:
Is exactly my current thinking. I'll know tomorrow. I'm a bit pissed off as I haven't seen either colour in the flesh yet and will have to travel miles to see a blue one. Lovely dilemma to have.
Take it from me .. once you ride it the colour will be the furthest thing from your mind !
You'll be having that horsepower, slide and wheelie at the same time moment in your panties :-)
I noticed you have the oem red anodised rotors on your bike at the moment.
Chav ;)
I'm hoping to get away from work to visit my dealer tomorrow afternoon. Let's see what he can do regarding a disc swap.
Immediate delivery red sold this morning.
Blue it is.
Mid July.
Result!
Red :cool:
mc what's the TC on it like compared to your old rsv4? genuinely interested in your thoughts
Just completed paperwork and paid deposit.
Being loyal to a local dealer I've known for years (but never bought a bike off - had a deposit on a K6 1000 with him when I had my big off hence never bought) has paid dividends.
He has done a bit of negotiation with the other location in their chain and I have a blue one being delivered in less than 2 weeks.
Oh yes
(http://www.sportrider.com/sites/sportrider.com/files/styles/medium_1x_/public/148_1114_2015_yamaha_yzf_r1_026.jpg?itok=D7YrLlNy)
:afro:
shoulda gone for red ;)
Can't get a green one, eh!?!
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 20, 2015, 05:29:19 PM
Just completed paperwork and paid deposit.
Being loyal to a local dealer I've known for years (but never bought a bike off - had a deposit on a K6 1000 with him when I had my big off hence never bought) has paid dividends.
He has done a bit of negotiation with the other location in their chain and I have a blue one being delivered in less than 2 weeks.
Oh yes
(http://www.sportrider.com/sites/sportrider.com/files/styles/medium_1x_/public/148_1114_2015_yamaha_yzf_r1_026.jpg?itok=D7YrLlNy)
:afro:
And that's why blue rocks, right there....
Quote from: greenmeeny on May 20, 2015, 08:40:39 PM
Can't get a green one, eh!?!
Nope and why would ya ;)
What sort of deal did you get Moz? I was looking at the various deals and they all seem fairly steep (with little or no deposit)?
Managed to get about £500 worth of extras (seat cowl, tail tidy, service inc) but paid RRP.
Yamaha PCP using my bike as a deposit is £75 a month over three years with about £7k to pay later (but there's no use worrying about that now!)
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 21, 2015, 12:46:06 PM
Yamaha PCP using my bike as a deposit is £75 a month over three years
Fuck me sideways!!!
I'm off to my Yamaha dealer :moto: :moto: :moto:
jealous!
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 21, 2015, 12:46:06 PM
Managed to get about £500 worth of extras (seat cowl, tail tidy, service inc) but paid RRP.
Yamaha PCP using my bike as a deposit is £75 a month over three years with about £7k to pay later (but there's no use worrying about that now!)
so you throw in a 7 grand bike, pay a monthly for a few years and still owe 7 grand at the end?
this must be one hell of a motorcycle!!!!!
I make that about £16,700 then!
So, what's that, 7-ish percent annual interest, assuming that you don't win on a mis-pricing of final bullet versus actual value at the end (assuming buyer's option either to pay or give the bike back...)? Not cheap as chips but not a shocking deal by any means, I wouldn't have thought, for a no doubt sought-after bike...
Nice work...
:moto:
(Then again, personal finance was never my strong point, so I have probably completely misunderstood the implications of this deal... which is why I have never yet been brave enough to go for a PCP!)
Apr is about 9.4% so a bit more Tuc.
Costs about £1600 to borrow the £15k. For me it's a brand new R1 for bugger all outlay now and only £75 a month.
In MOz's world, that's a winner.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 21, 2015, 06:43:13 PM
For me it's a brand new R1 for bugger all outlay now and only £75 a month.
In MOz's world, that's a winner.
You may borrow my t-shirt...... might be a bit big
(http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr19/Vidal_photos/manmaths_zpsttdw44le.jpg) (http://s465.photobucket.com/user/Vidal_photos/media/manmaths_zpsttdw44le.jpg.html)
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 21, 2015, 06:43:13 PM
Apr is about 9.4% so a bit more Tuc.
Costs about £1600 to borrow the £15k. For me it's a brand new R1 for bugger all outlay now and only £75 a month.
In MOz's world, that's a winner.
And they say the electricity industry is a rip off! Finance seems to be a world of it's own and no one bats an eyelid at the percentages/cost to borrow on finance!
What happened to the new house project MOz?
Need to sell our house if new house is going to happen. In 3 months on market we have had zero interest in our house.
Wash it first Dan x
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 21, 2015, 08:56:00 PM
Need to sell our house if new house is going to happen. In 3 months on market we have had zero interest in our house.
Anything similar selling in the area?
Quote from: 1-600-matt on May 21, 2015, 09:10:20 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 21, 2015, 08:56:00 PM
Need to sell our house if new house is going to happen. In 3 months on market we have had zero interest in our house.
Anything similar selling in the area?
Worryingly, quite a lot (or so the agents tell us)...... Identical house to ours round the corner sold for asking (about the same as ours is up for) just before we put ours up.....
Fuck the new house. I've got a new R1 in the best colour (and a t-shirt from Dan)....
QuoteFor me it's a brand new R1 for bugger all outlay now and only £75 a month.
:thumbleft:
It's here. Collect next week.
It's lurvely
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a72/MOz10R/DB110927-89E8-4F84-A36F-9D33B2AF3342_zpsuju5tjpp.jpg)
Fuck me, are we still on this?
It's a 'kin Yamaha, not an MV Agusta ;-)
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 29, 2015, 09:47:55 PM
It's here. Collect next week.
It's lurvely
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a72/MOz10R/DB110927-89E8-4F84-A36F-9D33B2AF3342_zpsuju5tjpp.jpg)
I do very much like that , I may have to test ride one....
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/440228605231366144/VNuY_cmB.jpeg)
;)
Millhouse you utter bastard lol
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on May 29, 2015, 09:51:15 PM
Fuck me, are we still on this?
It's a 'kin Yamaha, not an MV Agusta ;-)
Correct. It's much better.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 29, 2015, 10:32:05 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on May 29, 2015, 09:51:15 PM
Fuck me, are we still on this?
It's a 'kin Yamaha, not an MV Agusta ;-)
Correct. It's much better.
Indeed. Looking forward to seeing it
Quote from: Millhouse on May 29, 2015, 10:18:43 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/440228605231366144/VNuY_cmB.jpeg)
;)
That would be funny if relevant.....
Nice one dude, this is going to be great!
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 30, 2015, 07:38:22 AM
That would be funny if relevant.....
Googly eyes and a blue suit?
Seems relevant!
😂
Looking good Moz :-) Enjoy fella and see it at Valley in a few weeks.
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on May 21, 2015, 03:30:13 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 21, 2015, 12:46:06 PM
Managed to get about £500 worth of extras (seat cowl, tail tidy, service inc) but paid RRP.
Yamaha PCP using my bike as a deposit is £75 a month over three years with about £7k to pay later (but there's no use worrying about that now!)
so you throw in a 7 grand bike, pay a monthly for a few years and still owe 7 grand at the end?
this must be one hell of a motorcycle!!!!!
As my Mum would say, fuck that!
You only live once.
I don't smoke, don't drink much, drive a diesel hatchback and really have no other passion than things driven by petroleum. I work hard and don't take the piss.
I think it's worth twice as much.
Nice bike Moz. My mate bought a Blue one on PCP. He didn't have anything to trade and think he's nearly paying £180 a month.
Is that right at the end of three years you just hand it back and get a newer bike ? providing you don't put more miles than agreed on!
The first thing you'll want to do is change the can. Didn't think it possible but it sounds worse than a standard RC8.
Mate spent £600 on an Acky and TBH it wasn't a whole lot better :(
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 30, 2015, 05:27:03 PM
You only live once.
I don't smoke, don't drink much, drive a diesel hatchback and really have no other passion than things driven by petroleum. I work hard and don't take the piss.
I think it's worth twice as much.
Amen...you earn it...you spend it...only your other half needs consultation...certainly nobody on here.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 30, 2015, 05:27:03 PM
You only live once.
I don't smoke, don't drink much, drive a diesel hatchback and really have no other passion than things driven by petroleum. I work hard and don't take the piss.
I think it's worth twice as much.
This ^
Quote from: Alzo on May 30, 2015, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on May 30, 2015, 05:27:03 PM
You only live once.
I don't smoke, don't drink much, drive a diesel hatchback and really have no other passion than things driven by petroleum. I work hard and don't take the piss.
I think it's worth twice as much.
Amen...you earn it...you spend it...only your other half needs consultation...certainly nobody on here.
Hell yeah. It's worth evert penny
Looks cool Moz be interesting to see what you think of it.
Need decat and pipe to get the full effect.
Quote from: coop on May 31, 2015, 11:15:46 PM
Looks cool Moz be interesting to see what you think of it.
Need decat and pipe to get the full effect.
Haha I read that as flat cap and pipe!
Quote from: Millhouse on May 29, 2015, 10:18:43 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/440228605231366144/VNuY_cmB.jpeg)
;)
Very funny!
Quote from: coop on May 31, 2015, 11:15:46 PM
Looks cool Moz be interesting to see what you think of it.
Need decat and pipe to get the full effect.
I'm hoping to sort one but the cost of them is restrictive. It might be kept standard TBH.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 01, 2015, 10:20:31 AM
It might be kept standard TBH.
aaahhhh ha ha ha ha !!!!
really ???? :rofl:
Quote from: Farmer Giles on June 01, 2015, 11:12:13 AM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 01, 2015, 10:20:31 AM
It might be kept standard TBH.
aaahhhh ha ha ha ha !!!!
really ???? :rofl:
It's pointless to replace the end can of you don't decat - most decat and can setups are £1200. The standard exhaust looks shit but it's fairly noisy and does a good job.
that is a lot of dosh for a bit of extra noise and a few more horses that it hardly needs..
I was in my local dealer today and asked what the lead time was on a new R1..
Red or Blue.. 6 to 8 weeks so I think you can count yourself lucky to have got yours so quick..
Do you have a date yet for collecting it ?
The S1000r lot are decatting and losing midrange and gaining surging at slow speeds...fuck that.
Weds as long as work let me go in time. Otherwise Saturday.
Booking its first service in time for airfield track weekend.
Otherwise I'll just ride MCs ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ppqep9LkYs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ppqep9LkYs)
18.20 to 18.45.
Says it all really. :evil:
Quote from: Dom1 on June 01, 2015, 06:01:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ppqep9LkYs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ppqep9LkYs)
18.20 to 18.45.
Says it all really. :evil:
:rofl: :rofl: "you're not kidding they were supposed to be green"
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 01, 2015, 05:22:23 PM
Weds as long as work let me go in time.
cough cough..
That throat's sounding a bit sore.. probably much worse by Wednesday I expect....
just dont post any pics or tell anyone else until Saturday.. job done... :rofl:
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 01, 2015, 11:40:54 AM
Quote from: Farmer Giles on June 01, 2015, 11:12:13 AM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 01, 2015, 10:20:31 AM
It might be kept standard TBH.
aaahhhh ha ha ha ha !!!!
really ???? :rofl:
agreed if you dont decat not worth it.
It's pointless to replace the end can of you don't decat - most decat and can setups are £1200. The standard exhaust looks shit but it's fairly noisy and does a good job.
it's wednesday..
did you get it ??
Might have.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a72/MOz10R/C773C3E3-6918-40C6-89ED-B4B0E48EB77B_zpsr08vwsht.jpg)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a72/MOz10R/9CC40AC5-5957-4240-89E5-497776092849_zpskwtjdsqo.jpg)
That does look good moz all except one expensive to replace thing near the back....
I do agree but it's actually fairly loud. The exhaust valve opens at 6k rpm (which is running in limit) but I know already it sings after that....
looks nice..
hope the weather stays good so you can get it run in asap...
I actually don't mind the exhaust but I think I'd prefer to see the pipe rather than all those covers screwed on..
is that still 100% stock ? think you mentioned a tail tidy and other stuff before..
Sweet, enjoy :afro: :moto: :moto:
Tail tidy out of stock. Being fitted at first service.
Cracking Moz.
Nice.
Couple of points:
The paint is thin so be wary of following other bikes too closely on roads covered in debris :(
A-mode is snatchy as hell but you soon get used to it (although some hairpin bends I tackled last week were still a little 'difficult'). C-mode smooths things right out.
The brakes are a bit of a let down if you've ever used Brembo monoblocks - however, they feel much better once bedded right in (500+ miles!).
In the first 300 miles I got massive chain 'stretch' leading to about 3" of chain slack!
Only ever seem to get this on Yamahas...
They're bloody quick, I've actually enjoyed running mine in and haven't missed the 7000rpm at the top end and mates at my pace/level have been gobsmacked at the way it covers ground.
It truly is a (powerful and torquey) 1000cc engine in a (really good) 600cc chassis.
Excellent bikes but still think the RSV4 Factory is a better handling bike :azn:
Cheers for that. I'd read most of that on the R1 forum.
Ride 50 miles home in A mode yesterday expecting a nightmare - it's absolutely fine. Whoever decided it's snatchy has never ridden an RC8 or other big twin. The R1 is fine.
Again, I had heard the brakes were quite wooden and I agree they do lack feel and bite. Let's see what more miles brings.
I know a man that bought 2 of them... to race! he's not short of cash ;)
Happy new bike day!
Stop ogling it and suit up and get out!
Carbon this is Moz, I thought you knew him.
Quote from: Dom1 on June 04, 2015, 08:08:20 AM
Carbon this is Moz, I thought you knew him.
my bad for a split moment I forgot it was moz
NEVER AGAIN!
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 04, 2015, 06:52:35 AM
Cheers for that. I'd read most of that on the R1 forum.
Ride 50 miles home in A mode yesterday expecting a nightmare - it's absolutely fine. Whoever decided it's snatchy has never ridden an RC8 or other big twin. The R1 is fine.
Again, I had heard the brakes were quite wooden and I agree they do lack feel and bite. Let's see what more miles brings.
Moz - the Pwr mode 1 (not Mode A which is a combination of YRC settings fwiw) can be improved by the ECU remap ;-) Its transforms the bike and it really is bloody quick in mode 1 compared to mode 2 or others. Try mine at Valley ...
Sort me covers, decat, can and reflash please MC!
I've already changed the settings within the YRC menu. It's nowhere near as bad as some are making out.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 04, 2015, 10:27:27 AM
Sort me covers, decat, can and reflash please MC!
I've already changed the settings within the YRC menu. It's nowhere near as bad as some are making out.
On it guvnor ;-)
Can, Decat comes with a reflash and to sort the overzealous engine braking ;-)
ps; covers sorted with Stu -- get me the links to what you want ...
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 04, 2015, 10:27:27 AM
Sort me covers, decat, can and reflash please MC!
I've already changed the settings within the YRC menu. It's nowhere near as bad as some are making out.
Well, yes - some seem to be saying its unrideable and I'm not sure where those comments come from but it feels strange after you've ridden any other current Jap bike or BMW.
Maybe you've gotten a smooth version but if feels as dodgy as any Ducati, KTM or even an SP1 I've ever ridden.
If a flash sorts it then that's great.
I read MC's comments on the brakes in his thread on here a few weeks ago.
I love Brembos - even the S1000"s that look like 15 year old Aprilia calipers. They feel great, responsive and powerful - bling? Maybe, but they do look good.
After a couple of hundred miles I was ready to start looking for some for the R1 - they felt terrible.
But, as I said earlier, once properly bedded in they're really good - perhaps not up to top level racing but fine for mere mortals.
But, I cannot believe how long they've taken to bed in - an absolute age and around as long as the Yam recommendation for the engine.
Anyway, enjoy it.
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on June 04, 2015, 07:03:25 AM
Stop ogling it and suit up and get out!
It's less than 24 hours old and has 240 miles on the clock - shut it.....
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 04, 2015, 05:39:18 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on June 04, 2015, 07:03:25 AM
Stop ogling it and suit up and get out!
It's less than 24 hours old and has 240 miles on the clock - shut it.....
Good boy ;)
Ten miles per hour....àaaaaaahahahahahahaaaaa
8 was sleeping, 6 was at work, 4 was at home.
whatever mileage buddy its a great looking thing.
I believe Honda and Suzuki are going to unveil similarly styled bikes this year??
I'm sure they will as they are getting left well behind at the moment.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 05, 2015, 08:32:57 AM
I'm sure they will as they are getting left well behind at the moment.
Think that goes for racing too.. The new R1 in BSB is already up there with much more development yet to come..
not to mention our own MC tearing up the endurance series.. :rofl:
I'm really interested to see how quickly Michael Dunlop will peddle it round the island this coming week.
funny how all the quick bikes are red !!! (maybe one or two exceptions I suppose 46 and 99....)
Quote from: Farmer Giles on June 05, 2015, 10:45:59 AM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 05, 2015, 08:32:57 AM
I'm sure they will as they are getting left well behind at the moment.
Think that goes for racing too.. The new R1 in BSB is already up there with much more development yet to come..
not to mention our own MC tearing up the endurance series.. :rofl:
I'm really interested to see how quickly Michael Dunlop will peddle it round the island this coming week.
funny how all the quick bikes are red !!! (maybe one or two exceptions I suppose 46 and 99....)
obviously not fast enough for michael
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/33004789
Quote from: komp on June 05, 2015, 11:01:14 AM
Quote from: Farmer Giles on June 05, 2015, 10:45:59 AM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 05, 2015, 08:32:57 AM
I'm sure they will as they are getting left well behind at the moment.
Think that goes for racing too.. The new R1 in BSB is already up there with much more development yet to come..
not to mention our own MC tearing up the endurance series.. :rofl:
I'm really interested to see how quickly Michael Dunlop will peddle it round the island this coming week.
funny how all the quick bikes are red !!! (maybe one or two exceptions I suppose 46 and 99....)
obviously not fast enough for michael
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/33004789
I think the issue is one of reliability on the superbike .. and as much as its teddys out of pram behaviour wise I'd not want to throw myself around the TT with the risk of oil spewing from it at consistent high RPM use. A TT bike aint no superbike in terms of how its used/abused.
Totally agree. The bike was designed as a short circuit racer primarily. Adapting it for road racing was always going to prove challenging. It's not the only bike to suffer when road racing.
It must be shit as on a pretty much stock chassis R1 Josh Brooke's got nowhere near the Snetterton lap record.
50 miles in C mode this morning and she's super smooth around town speeds.
Snatchy throttle my arse.....
Don't the 'snatchy' comments relate to A-mode?
Quote from: legzr1 on June 05, 2015, 03:50:17 PM
Don't the 'snatchy' comments relate to A-mode?
Yes, to be fair it does but even A mode is not as bad as everyone is making out.
Wouldn't surprise me if the snatchiness wasn't an emissions thing rather than how Yamaha wanted it to work.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 05, 2015, 04:23:26 PM
Quote from: legzr1 on June 05, 2015, 03:50:17 PM
Don't the 'snatchy' comments relate to A-mode?
Yes, to be fair it does but even A mode is not as bad as everyone is making out.
Fair do's.
I don't get how a company like Yamaha produce a bike that is anything but flawless...it's not as if it's a new venture...I have some issues with my BMW S1000r that quite simply shouldn't be there...it's just not good enough...I expect better from these brands.
Seems to me that over the past 10 years or so, buyers of new models are unpaid beta testers.
It is flawless. I've no issues.
So far!!!
Any whispers on a brand new blade for 16??
Is it true that you've already swapped it for a BMW................?
Quote from: Alzo on June 05, 2015, 09:49:58 PM
I don't get how a company like Yamaha produce a bike that is anything but flawless...it's not as if it's a new venture...I have some issues with my BMW S1000r that quite simply shouldn't be there...it's just not good enough...I expect better from these brands.
You'd be surprised how small the development teams are. They'll knowingly release their product with as few bugs as possible but there will be things that are just accepted as for the 'to do' list.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 06, 2015, 07:00:15 AM
It is flawless. I've no issues.
And I hope it remains that way.
Quote from: Gobert on June 06, 2015, 04:12:56 PM
Is it true that you've already swapped it for a BMW................?
No I'm not a fat Irish prima donna... It's plenty fast enough for me.
Had my first service earlier - it's got a fair kick up top, maybe not as pronounced as the S1000 but it's pulling harder at 7000rpm anyway.
I might have had a few excursions to 7k and one necessity to about 8.5k during an overtake today. I'm very much looking forward to my first service. Next Saturday am. Have 425 miles on the clock now and I'm out tomorrow am too :evil:
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 06, 2015, 08:50:15 PM
I might have had a few excursions to 7k and one necessity to about 8.5k during an overtake today. I'm very much looking forward to my first service. Next Saturday am. Have 425 miles on the clock now and I'm out tomorrow am too :evil:
Is it restricted?
Yes. In sixth gear only at either 10 or 12k rpm - not something that a road rider worries about.
A reflash sorts that out.
The S1000r was restricted to 9k in every gear until the techs free it at the 600 mile service.
Quote from: Alzo on June 06, 2015, 09:32:04 PM
The S1000r was restricted to 9k in every gear until the techs free it at the 600 mile service.
Bet that's annoying as hell but its not a bad idea
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on June 06, 2015, 10:20:44 PM
Quote from: Alzo on June 06, 2015, 09:32:04 PM
The S1000r was restricted to 9k in every gear until the techs free it at the 600 mile service.
Bet that's annoying as hell but its not a bad idea
Strangely it showed you barely need much more on the road...still made good progress...but the first time I was able to give it full revs in second gear I almost filled my nappy....bloody quick...and my brain still hadn't got up to speed.
Ahh I see - restricted for running in. No, it's not.
BMW love that shit. The V8 M3 when it came out had very strict running in limits that the ECU told the techs the max revs you had used. If you exceeded them, your warranty was invalidated (I was told).
It still didn't work too well.
My 2010 S1000 did the crank and rods 5 minutes after first service and restriction lifted.
Not overly delighted with my BMW...infact if I knew then what I know now I'd keep my Speed R...some silly issues with a poor PDI...some failed switchgear...but the biggest overriding thing is I do not like the arrogance surrounding the BMW brand...both dealer and manufacturer see no problem in the bike failing..."we fixed it so what's your beef"...I'm not gelling with the Dealership the way I did with my local Triumph lot.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 07, 2015, 07:01:06 AM
Ahh I see - restricted for running in. No, it's not.
BMW love that shit. The V8 M3 when it came out had very strict running in limits that the ECU told the techs the max revs you had used. If you exceeded them, your warranty was invalidated (I was told).
Ha how very German!
I remember a dealer telling me that when I bought my Fireblade back in 2003, but I've never heard anything since.
And my bike clicked round it's 800th mile somewhere down Craner Curves at Donington so I didn't pay too much attention to it....
Quote from: legzr1 on June 07, 2015, 08:07:44 AM
It still didn't work too well.
My 2010 S1000 did the crank and rods 5 minutes after first service and restriction lifted.
I have heard a lot of inlet valve replacement...very fragile motorcycle it would seem. Back on a Triumph as soon as I can...keep this for a year as I would take a massive hit just now.
Quote from: Alzo on June 07, 2015, 04:37:50 PM
Quote from: legzr1 on June 07, 2015, 08:07:44 AM
It still didn't work too well.
My 2010 S1000 did the crank and rods 5 minutes after first service and restriction lifted.
I have heard a lot of inlet valve replacement...very fragile motorcycle it would seem. Back on a Triumph as soon as I can...keep this for a year as I would take a massive hit just now.
Cue next winters Alzo's new keeper thread 😉
FWIW Alzo it's a shame that you've had this experience, funny how being in the car game shows a level of arrogance in some brands versus others and you are an example of how the people make a difference in the ownership of the vehicle. Problems are fine as long as the people you deal with recognise their impact on you and look after you accordingly.
As far as the Yam is concerned Moz, hope it's everything you want, personally don't get them and think they are too much hype but then I'd have a zx10r and you'd think the same lol
Yip very true Mark...I'm trying to get back to a good place with this bike...with extras it has cost me £12.5k of my hard earned...my issues have been a collective of minor ones...but I get the sense that if something big did happen there would be no urgency...and I would have to suck it up...whereas Two Wheels in Edinburgh couldn't do enough....courtesy bike and an apology straight away...and a desire to see me right...I looked at exchanging the BMW...but the hit was eye watering.
Moz sorry for the hijack.
No worries. It's a bike forum. I was going to say the R1 is worth it for the handling and engine alone. Everything else is a bonus.
Quote from: Alzo on June 07, 2015, 04:37:50 PM
Quote from: legzr1 on June 07, 2015, 08:07:44 AM
It still didn't work too well.
My 2010 S1000 did the crank and rods 5 minutes after first service and restriction lifted.
I have heard a lot of inlet valve replacement...very fragile motorcycle it would seem. Back on a Triumph as soon as I can...keep this for a year as I would take a massive hit just now.
Mine was one of around 50 worldwide in the first batch that had incorrect main bearing tolerances - first time over 10,000 rpm and boom (well, more of a squeak and a death rattle).
To be fair, both the dealer and BMW were excellent and had a new engine in a van driven over night from Berlin and fitted and ready to go over a BH weekend.
Free Akra and other bits and pieces for 'my trouble' too but it has to be said, the build quality isn't there with BMW bikes just yet - the later stuff looks far better but I'm still hearing of trouble with cams on 2015 RR"s even now.
BMW have to be thanked though - they've made the Japs (and Yamaha in particular) sit up and take notice - now, just five years later we have the 2015 R1 - I suspect it wouldn't be anywhere near this good without the Germans giving them a scare ;)
I don't agree....in as much as my 2007 Yamaha R1 was a thing of beauty and the build quality was superb...so from that respect Yamaha have never needed to play catch up...Suzuki and Kawasaki definitely....Honda are generally very good too.
I should have been clearer - my last paragraph was in regards to performance and technology in general rather than build quality.
Pitched up next to a new R1 in red in Alston yesterday. Lovely looking machine and the red disc centres didn't stand out to the point that they'd bother me. Had a lovely Akrapovic on it which sounded immense when he decided it would be a great idea to bounce it off the limiter next to the petrol pump......
Had some fucking awful crash bobbins on it thought, silver blade looking things. But I guess the alternative is worse!
Quote from: legzr1 on June 08, 2015, 08:50:08 AM
I should have been clearer - my last paragraph was in regards to performance and technology in general rather than build quality.
:thumbleft:
Quote from: PJ on June 08, 2015, 12:26:41 PM
Pitched up next to a new R1 in red in Alston yesterday. Lovely looking machine and the red disc centres didn't stand out to the point that they'd bother me. Had a lovely Akrapovic on it which sounded immense when he decided it would be a great idea to bounce it off the limiter next to the petrol pump......
Had some fucking awful crash bobbins on it thought, silver blade looking things. But I guess the alternative is worse!
We met up with a few from PH at Kirby around midday then up to Hartside via Middleton and Alston - sure I spotted the red R1 when we stopped for fuel so you were probably there somewhere too!
Quote from: legzr1 on June 08, 2015, 01:09:51 PM
Quote from: PJ on June 08, 2015, 12:26:41 PM
Pitched up next to a new R1 in red in Alston yesterday. Lovely looking machine and the red disc centres didn't stand out to the point that they'd bother me. Had a lovely Akrapovic on it which sounded immense when he decided it would be a great idea to bounce it off the limiter next to the petrol pump......
Had some fucking awful crash bobbins on it thought, silver blade looking things. But I guess the alternative is worse!
We met up with a few from PH at Kirby around midday then up to Hartside via Middleton and Alston - sure I spotted the red R1 when we stopped for fuel so you were probably there somewhere too!
I was at Kirkby Lonsdale about 1pm and at Hartside about 3pm so yeah I was knocking around at the same time! I dropped down into Alston to the big petrol station which would have been about 4pm I reckon.
(http://peejay1977.smugmug.com/Odds/i-c4BgWBm/0/X2/IMG_0065-X2.jpg)
Guy on the R1 was there with a newish Blade SP :-)
Route we took was :
(http://peejay1977.smugmug.com/Odds/i-Lf6XRQH/0/X2/IMG_0079-X2.png)
I'm sure were probably moments away from bumping into each other at some point!
Small world - there were three or four from the Bolton area went to Devils Bridge and we met them at Kirby Steven then the same route as you up to Hartside.
We warned them it was cold up the top and towards the east but they didn't believe us until they're steaming cuppa's were cold within seconds outside the cafe - it was around 4C and windy as hell all the way for us!
Naturally, glorious and warm 2 miles from home :(
You must have covered over 300 miles - nice ride out :thumbsup:
Only spotted the one 2015 R1 all day (two including mine...) but you couldn't get moved for S1000's !! BMW must be having a half price sale or something!
Bolton? Nice, we went through Walken into Bolton then picked up the road to Ramsbottom to avoid sitting on the M66 :)
Have to say it was fecking cold up the Hartside Cafe, luckily I was wrapped up in textiles and not a vented 1-piece!
Ive just seen a red one in the flesh thought it looked horrible the front looks like a bulldog and well is that a pillion seat ? I dont think so you couldn't get a child on that its the size of my hand, the blue one looks completely different to me
I don't take pillions.
Yes, the red is wrong. Rossi's is blue - enough said.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 09, 2015, 04:43:53 PM
I don't take pillions.
Yes, the red is wrong. Rossi's is blue - enough said.
I get that but you clearly cant take a pillion on it I sat on the back and the plastic just dug in , would have made sense to make it a solo with that styling
The RSV4 is the same - I'm guessing it's of no concern to the majority of buyers.
First thing I did was unbolt the rear pegs - saves a few bob on insurance too.
MC101, If you're reading this I've tried sending you a PM but not sure if you've received it - there's no 'sent' folder in my PM folder on here :undecided:
I'll text him Legz - assume its about the indicators?
It is, cheers Moz.
Tried Scunny Lee but he's keeping his and the eBay seller has sold his - he's based in Colchester so hoping it's not MCs eBay shop :grin:
Quote from: legzr1 on June 09, 2015, 05:09:21 PM
The RSV4 is the same - I'm guessing it's of no concern to the majority of buyers.
First thing I did was unbolt the rear pegs - saves a few bob on insurance too.
MC101, If you're reading this I've tried sending you a PM but not sure if you've received it - there's no 'sent' folder in my PM folder on here :undecided:
Sorry fella been out all day. Just returned your PM ... Tom Olivers dad took mine and they have a bunch off stuff still available. You have his number .. just text him and he's expecting your call etc.
Thanks Mark
So first service and tail tidy fitting complete on Saturday. It were a bit damp so didn't get to play much but the main roads were dry. Utilised up to 9k (2/3rds of available revs) and
Oh. My. God.
What an engine. So much better than the earlier Big Bang. Spins up quicker, much stronger and starts a stupid step up in power about 8k. I can see why testers were saying its a challenge to hold on. Tempted to go one down on the front sprocket as 1st is ridiculously tall.
Awesome motorcycle. Shame I can't afford a decent decat and can!! The oem one stays I'm afraid but it does sound really good.
Did the SC Projects not work out?
Quote from: Alzo on June 14, 2015, 09:47:53 PM
Did the SC Projects not work out?
Quite like it but still struggling to justify £950+ on a decat and can.
The Austin decat is pretty nice and Seton's system is a work of art (and quiet too) but cash is short and I'm struggling to see the benefits (of which I know there are several).
The S1000r with 160bhp standard can get me in plenty bother... :rofl: plus I think I've said...but a lot of chaps are struggling to get the decat full systems to run smoothly at the bottom end...and hole in the mid range...bollocks to that.
Give it six months and I'm sure other exhaust options will be out there. £1000 for an end can is a bit ridiculous. My Arata full Ti system on my Fireblade was less than that and gave it 15HP!