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Title: Race shift pattern
Post by: LewisBeGoog on August 13, 2015, 12:31:42 PM
So I had to get some new rearsets after the ones that were bodged on the bike and obviously from a different bike broke.

So the set I bought came with very different linkages (the correct ones this time!) which I finally managed to get working properly but only in Race Pattern. Having ridden it to work a couple of times I have come to conclusion that its staying that way for the moment and I actually prefer it.  :moto:

Question is has anyone else tried it this way round? Feels much nicer going down through the gears doing clutch less changes.
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 13, 2015, 12:41:01 PM
ive had my gilles in race shift before I didn't have much of an opinion ,it was just simply different
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Bullet on August 13, 2015, 12:52:41 PM
I prefer it, feels more natural to me and I run my ZXR and SP1 with a race shift pattern, haven't worked out how to get my little honda 350 to have a race shift though so I have to use both! I don't need it on the road for the same reason the racers do though obviously just feels nicer!
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: David W on August 13, 2015, 12:55:22 PM
I'd be worried I'd forget and cunt my gearbox into atoms on a botched upshift....
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Gilby104 on August 13, 2015, 01:30:04 PM
Quote from: David W on August 13, 2015, 12:55:22 PM
I'd be worried I'd forget and cunt my gearbox into atoms on a botched upshift....

Assuming that race shift pattern means 1 up 5 down I'd imagine that it would be a matter of moments before I engaged "con-rod escape mod" on an up-shift!
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on August 13, 2015, 02:49:38 PM
I doubt anyone would be down shifting at 11k revs + on the road so the gearbox is quite safe.
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Gilby104 on August 13, 2015, 03:43:26 PM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on August 13, 2015, 02:49:38 PM
I doubt anyone would be down shifting at 11k revs + on the road so the gearbox is quite safe.

I regularly up-shift at the red-line.... if that accidently turns into a downshift then I'd imagine there would be trouble?
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: LewisBeGoog on August 13, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
To be honest with about 165bhp I am not even close to the redline on my commute during my ride to work I don't even both clutch less shifting through the gears unless I am gunning it down the slip road.

First track day has potential for disaster though especially as I have no slipper clutch.
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Druid on August 13, 2015, 05:07:19 PM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 13, 2015, 03:43:26 PM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on August 13, 2015, 02:49:38 PM
I doubt anyone would be down shifting at 11k revs + on the road so the gearbox is quite safe.

I regularly up-shift at the red-line.... if that accidently turns into a downshift then I'd imagine there would be trouble?
^^^^^^^this
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Thegodfather on August 13, 2015, 06:24:19 PM
I've just changed to race shift. Will be trying it out at Le Mans in a couple of weeks.
I'm planning to pootle around as I wont have any mates in the same group ( no pressure) till I get used to it.
Mainly changed as I kept grounding my boot on upsihfts in the left handers.
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Millhouse on August 13, 2015, 09:00:30 PM
Botched up(down)shift in race pattern??

No, never seen it, never done it, especially at snetterton!!!

:shocked:
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Dom1 on August 13, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Was that te same day you tried slicks?
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Foo on August 14, 2015, 08:25:18 AM
Yes I've been running race shift for years. Tried it when I was racing and I prefer it, so swapped my road bike over.

I just find it flows better. I don't have issues when I ride a bike with road shift either tho. Borrowed a mates bike for the Scottish trip and managed not to fuck up the gear changes  :laugh:
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: LewisBeGoog on August 14, 2015, 10:49:24 AM
My feeling exactly foo :-). Gunned it down the slip road through the gears on the way home and felt way better!
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: 1-600-matt on August 15, 2015, 05:22:55 PM
I much prefer race shift, I would have all bikes in race pattern but the Ktm and a lot of enduro bikes have the gear shift lever mounted direct to the shift rod so not easy to change.

Have miss-shifted a couple of times on the zx6 which is always unfortunate but ill be sticking with race pattern as it's just better specially on track.
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Farmer Giles on August 18, 2015, 08:14:54 AM
Is it possible to do any bike that has a 'remote' shift leaver ?

quite fancy giving it a try on the FZ8 if it's possible to do without spending hundreds on new rearsets..
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Bullet on August 18, 2015, 02:30:53 PM
Most of them, you have to flip the clamp that goes onto the splined gear selector shaft by 180 degrees. Aslong as it doesn't hit anything it should be fine...
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: comment on August 18, 2015, 08:25:47 PM
For example.

(http://i.imgur.com/SRLcbw5.jpg)
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on August 19, 2015, 08:50:49 AM
Do you change gear with the brake lever?
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on August 19, 2015, 09:37:20 AM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on August 19, 2015, 08:50:49 AM
Do you change gear with the brake lever?
Ha you noticed aswell
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on August 19, 2015, 10:42:17 AM
Noticed what?
Title: Re: Race shift pattern
Post by: Farmer Giles on August 19, 2015, 12:48:50 PM
Quote from: Bullet on August 18, 2015, 02:30:53 PM
Most of them, you have to flip the clamp that goes onto the splined gear selector shaft by 180 degrees. Aslong as it doesn't hit anything it should be fine...

ahh OK..

might not be room on the FZ8 as the gearbox is mounted on the back of the block the selector rod goes through a gap in the frame and heads up to the splined shaft at about 45deg angle...   and it's already a tight fit and not sure I'll be able to flip the clamp over..

but I will take a look though..

cheers