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Title: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 09, 2015, 10:57:24 AM
Battery didnt seem to have the juice to start the bike this morning so was going to let the clutch out down a big hill  , but ive noticed while in gear (lever pulled in) its extremely hard to push is that normal there's alot of resistance is this normal I always thought they rolled easily I certainly cant remember this on any other bike ive owned? 
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Green_Ninja on December 09, 2015, 10:59:35 AM
Clutch dragging by the sound of it, coast down hill in neutral then change up into 2nd to bump it
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on December 09, 2015, 11:08:01 AM
Wet clutch, cold oil, you'll get some drag...... Do what Iain said
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 09, 2015, 11:51:55 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on December 09, 2015, 11:08:01 AM
Wet clutch, cold oil, you'll get some drag...... Do what Iain said
I'm charging the battery, that's what I was going to do but I wanted to check if it was normal , so it shouldn't have this much resistance if the oil is hot? When I pulled away the other day it jumped forward when I let the clutch out , this may be connected
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on December 09, 2015, 12:09:45 PM
Might be due to the weight of the oil, if you've opted for a heavier oil during a recent change, or the clutch might need slight adjustment.
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on December 09, 2015, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 09, 2015, 11:51:55 AM
When I pulled away the other day it jumped forward when I let the clutch out

That's called 'pulling away', they all do that.
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 09, 2015, 12:31:52 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on December 09, 2015, 12:09:45 PM
Might be due to the weight of the oil, if you've opted for a heavier oil during a recent change, or the clutch might need slight adjustment.
There's ment to be 50w but there's 40w in there I need to change it, how exactly does one adjust the clutch?
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 09, 2015, 12:33:01 PM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on December 09, 2015, 12:14:26 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 09, 2015, 11:51:55 AM
When I pulled away the other day it jumped forward when I let the clutch out

That's called 'pulling away', they all do that.
It was nothing , nothing nothing lunge etc! Had to pull away in 2nd but strangely sorted it self out
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: LewisBeGoog on December 09, 2015, 01:03:38 PM
By Thundercat used to do that, especially when cold. I did 20k miles on that bike and it never got any worse. Always kept me on my toes on a frosty morning commute!
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 09, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: LewisBeGoog on December 09, 2015, 01:03:38 PM
By Thundercat used to do that, especially when cold. I did 20k miles on that bike and it never got any worse. Always kept me on my toes on a frosty morning commute!
It didn't do it before , that's why I was a bit worried
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Farmer Giles on December 10, 2015, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 09, 2015, 12:33:01 PM
It was nothing , nothing nothing lunge etc! Had to pull away in 2nd but strangely sorted it self out

could be the clutch plates are starting to wear grooves into the clutch basket and the plates get stuck and then 'ping' free, hence nothing then full engagement..  might also be stopping the plates moving fully apart hence the drag when cold..

Lay the bike on it's side so you can take the clutch cover off the motor without draining the oil and take a look.. Just have a new gasket to hand in case you damage to old one taking it off..

2p..
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 10, 2015, 08:08:42 PM
Quote from: Farmer Giles on December 10, 2015, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 09, 2015, 12:33:01 PM
It was nothing , nothing nothing lunge etc! Had to pull away in 2nd but strangely sorted it self out

could be the clutch plates are starting to wear grooves into the clutch basket and the plates get stuck and then 'ping' free, hence nothing then full engagement..  might also be stopping the plates moving fully apart hence the drag when cold..

Lay the bike on it's side so you can take the clutch cover off the motor without draining the oil and take a look.. Just have a new gasket to hand in case you damage to old one taking it off..

2p..
not a bad idea that I may do it upright as she could do with some decent oil in her anyway
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 12, 2015, 02:04:13 PM
Quote from: Farmer Giles on December 10, 2015, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 09, 2015, 12:33:01 PM
It was nothing , nothing nothing lunge etc! Had to pull away in 2nd but strangely sorted it self out

could be the clutch plates are starting to wear grooves into the clutch basket and the plates get stuck and then 'ping' free, hence nothing then full engagement..  might also be stopping the plates moving fully apart hence the drag when cold..

Lay the bike on it's side so you can take the clutch cover off the motor without draining the oil and take a look.. Just have a new gasket to hand in case you damage to old one taking it off..

2p..
If that's the case , will riding it as is (not got time to have a good check) damage the clutch?
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Millhouse on December 12, 2015, 05:38:10 PM
Well if the basket is worn it'll need replacing anyway....


But if it were me, I'd want to know what was wrong so I didn't catapult myself in front of someone!
Title: Re: pushing the bike in gear?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on December 12, 2015, 06:00:19 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on December 12, 2015, 05:38:10 PM
Well if the basket is worn it'll need replacing anyway....


But if it were me, I'd want to know what was wrong so I didn't catapult myself in front of someone!
It was more incase I need it if no other transport is available etc etc