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General Discussions => Bike Talk => Topic started by: Millhouse on February 28, 2016, 02:56:53 PM

Title: 1098 S?
Post by: Millhouse on February 28, 2016, 02:56:53 PM
Anyone had one? anyone know of any particular problems with them?
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Alzo on February 28, 2016, 04:53:27 PM
Belts from crank to cams weak...short service intervals...short rev range...dry clutch...look stunning...handle well...sound amazing.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Gilby104 on February 29, 2016, 09:23:30 AM
Nothing in particular other than the usual Ducati difficulties (for instance my mates' won't start after he's washed it) but I've heard complaints that they are relatively  tricky to ride / won't turn in / crippling on the back and wrists.

Have you had a chance to ride one for a decent amount of time?
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Alzo on February 29, 2016, 09:39:33 AM
The Forums are full of both woes and joys...imperative you buy a well cared for example...they can be money pits...the latest Panigale engines are light years ahead...wet clutch...gear driven not belts...and rev out much better.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Andy M on February 29, 2016, 09:57:06 AM
They take some learning/experimenting with to ride on track but on road are sublime... other than the exhausts toasting your legs.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Gilby104 on February 29, 2016, 10:06:16 AM
Quote from: Andy M on February 29, 2016, 09:57:06 AM
They take some learning/experimenting with to ride on track but on road are sublime... other than the exhausts toasting your legs.

In fairness my mates have only moaned about the difficulty with turning in etc on track.

You could always get one Millhouse, then you could let us all know for sure?  :moto:
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Millhouse on February 29, 2016, 11:42:05 AM
Well it's a toss up between that and an 08 r1
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Alzo on February 29, 2016, 12:19:33 PM
08 R1 wins for me. Beautiful. Quick...reliable.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Gilby104 on February 29, 2016, 01:12:45 PM
Quote from: Alzo on February 29, 2016, 12:19:33 PM
08 R1 wins for me. Beautiful. Quick...reliable.

+1 for me . The Duke will inevitably come with the highs and lows of owning an Italian bike, which I can't deal with.... a machine has got to be easy to live with for me to enjoy it. Boring I know.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Millhouse on February 29, 2016, 01:37:12 PM
Fuck you all with your sensible suggestions!!!

:rofl:

May go a take a cheeky look at one tomorrow...
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Gilby104 on February 29, 2016, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on February 29, 2016, 01:37:12 PM
Fuck you all with your sensible suggestions!!!

:rofl:

May go a take a cheeky look at one tomorrow...

As per your sig..... employ Rule #5 and go for the Duke!!

:moto:
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: PJ on February 29, 2016, 02:10:02 PM
I had the 08 R1 (obviously not the 1098) and I regret selling it. I did 830 miles over 3 days to Scotland on it, several trackdays and it was faultless whatever I asked it to do. Aside from the master cylinder seals but I suspect that was from the dickhead previous owner and his love of cheap bling.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Dom1 on February 29, 2016, 03:41:14 PM
I think this calls for a feisty test ride.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Alzo on February 29, 2016, 03:52:56 PM
One could bring joy...the other remove joy...only you can decide which is which.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on February 29, 2016, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Alzo on February 29, 2016, 03:52:56 PM
One could bring joy...the other remove joy...only you can decide which is which.

One's black, the other's white...... Or they could both be black..... Or white..... Or grey
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Alzo on February 29, 2016, 08:12:35 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on February 29, 2016, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: Alzo on February 29, 2016, 03:52:56 PM
One could bring joy...the other remove joy...only you can decide which is which.

One's black, the other's white...... Or they could both be black..... Or white..... Or grey
Exactly
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Chojin on February 29, 2016, 09:10:46 PM
Go for the Duke. It looks so purdy :)

Also, reliability isn't really a factor for a garage ornament!
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Millhouse on February 29, 2016, 10:02:29 PM

Quote from: Chojin on February 29, 2016, 09:10:46 PM
Go for the Duke. It looks so purdy :)

Also, reliability isn't really a factor for a garage ornament!
There's a real risk I may have to actually use it. And just to add insult to injury I may even have to get to work on it!!
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Green_Ninja on February 29, 2016, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on February 29, 2016, 10:02:29 PM

Quote from: Chojin on February 29, 2016, 09:10:46 PM
Go for the Duke. It looks so purdy :)

Also, reliability isn't really a factor for a garage ornament!
There's a real risk I may have to actually use it. And just to add insult to injury I may even have to get to work on it!!

In that case R1 it is  :azn:
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Millhouse on February 29, 2016, 10:05:02 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on February 29, 2016, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on February 29, 2016, 10:02:29 PM

Quote from: Chojin on February 29, 2016, 09:10:46 PM
Go for the Duke. It looks so purdy :)

Also, reliability isn't really a factor for a garage ornament!
There's a real risk I may have to actually use it. And just to add insult to injury I may even have to get to work on it!!

In that case R1 it is  :azn:

That was what flashed across my mind as I hit post!
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Green_Ninja on February 29, 2016, 10:06:16 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on February 29, 2016, 10:05:02 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on February 29, 2016, 10:04:08 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on February 29, 2016, 10:02:29 PM

Quote from: Chojin on February 29, 2016, 09:10:46 PM
Go for the Duke. It looks so purdy :)

Also, reliability isn't really a factor for a garage ornament!
There's a real risk I may have to actually use it. And just to add insult to injury I may even have to get to work on it!!

In that case R1 it is  :azn:

That was what flashed across my mind as I hit post!

:thumbleft:
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Andy M on March 01, 2016, 09:34:48 AM
I've commuted to work on the 1098 a few times, even once made it from Liverpool to Milton Keynes in a business suit for a client meeting
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on March 01, 2016, 10:01:39 AM
The 1098 sure is pretty...... but, so was PJ's R1, in those colours..... wow
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: komp on March 01, 2016, 10:07:48 AM
i considered one on a couple of occasions
but glad i waited for the panigale

the riding position on the 1098s was quite extreme
and not sure i could deal with "traditional" ducati servicing requirements

Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Millhouse on March 01, 2016, 10:44:20 AM
So looks alone, which one?

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160301/b0085b3f8419398b6dc10466d28db9e0.jpg)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160301/24a1e92e7174ba34f8ea60b63a2de66b.jpg)

Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Andy M on March 01, 2016, 11:04:01 AM
looks alone you already no the answer. I bet despite all that's been said on here you haven't wavered at all and are still 75:25 in favour of the duke!
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Alzo on March 01, 2016, 12:00:51 PM
The R1 in that guise is stunning. A well balanced design. The 1098 is stunning too. I think the vote would be closer to 50/50...R1 all the way for all the right reasons.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Chojin on March 01, 2016, 12:01:21 PM
This is a classic head/heart decision so I'm gonna play devil's advocate here:

No one really *needs* a bike, no one buys a bike using their head?

Buying a bike is and always will be about buying with whatever whets your loin.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on March 01, 2016, 12:07:44 PM
In those colours, the Duke....... the R1 in the colours PJ had is a much closer affair.

(http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2008models/2008-Yamaha-YZF-R1-CE-CanadianEditionb.jpg)

I think PJ also had black seats, which look better.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: PJ on March 01, 2016, 12:11:23 PM
Should never have sold her!

(http://www.pjitsolutions.co.uk/pics/share/IMG_8014.jpg)
(http://www.pjitsolutions.co.uk/pics/share/IMG_8015.jpg)
(http://www.pjitsolutions.co.uk/pics/share/IMG_8429.jpg)
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Millhouse on March 01, 2016, 12:52:10 PM
Red/white never did it for me. Blood and bandage connotations
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on March 01, 2016, 01:43:46 PM
You're quite wrong
Title: 1098 S?
Post by: Millhouse on March 01, 2016, 01:45:39 PM
I'll counter that with....

Meh.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: MOzZereLLa on March 01, 2016, 01:59:52 PM
Componentry on the Duke is great but make sure the forks and shock have been serviced.

Yamaha still looks better.
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: tucola on March 01, 2016, 02:52:19 PM
For me, I'd go R1 out of those two, easy decision.

Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: LewisBeGoog on March 01, 2016, 03:20:33 PM
You'll get the Duke absolutely love it they cry everytime you have to service it, or it breaks down or wont start. The R1 is nearly as pretty and none of those others things apply.

I have no time for expensive things that don't work. It was a second bike however maybe
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Lord Danoir the first on March 01, 2016, 03:24:40 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on March 01, 2016, 01:45:39 PM
I'll counter that with....

Meh.

I've met my match....... well played Sir
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Alzo on March 01, 2016, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on March 01, 2016, 03:24:40 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on March 01, 2016, 01:45:39 PM
I'll counter that with....

Meh.

I've met my match....... well played Sir
:rofl:
Title: Re: 1098 S?
Post by: Gilby104 on March 01, 2016, 04:40:39 PM
Quote from: LewisBeGoog on March 01, 2016, 03:20:33 PM
You'll get the Duke absolutely love it they cry everytime you have to service it, or it breaks down or wont start. The R1 is nearly as pretty and none of those others things apply.

I have no time for expensive things that don't work. It was a second bike however maybe

+1

Does look fit though. Any of the new Dukes look unbelievably good in matt black too!