Got a problem with the deauville wouldn't fire yesterday I put it down to being the cold , put battery on charge as I drained it trying to start , fully charged battery and even colder outside and much to my surprise the bike fires without much problem which made me wonder , so I ride it to work everythings fine leaving work it really struggled to start but it did riding home seemed fine heated grips on etc I get closer to home and I notice when I indicate the rev counter was going up 1k insync with the indicator , I get home after noticing the instruments are dimmer than usual ,then it cuts out right outside the house , then won't start ,battery flat as a pancake , starter wouldn't even click , now am I right in assuming it's the alternator?
I'd start with testing the reg/rectifier, check and see if it is putting out an increased voltage and go from there.
Battery is probably fooked, cold kills em, as above do check the reg.rectifier as Hondas are known for dodgy ones.
I know when the reg rec goes it often takes the battery with it , does it also kill the alternator? Don't think the battery is old looks newish it's a yuasa , need to see if the thing is charging , at least the reg is only a few quid to replace
If the reg/rec is fooked it can do a lot of damage to a lot of the electrics, but first check is the battery, the look of the battery means fook all. Bike batteries as very small to keep the weight down and as they are lead acid they don't take kindly to being fully discharged, Yuasa is a good make but they all fail in the end.
Had a 3 month old bike and the battery gave in...because it looks new means nothing. Check all aforementioned...and check nothing is drawing on the battery when your bikes stationery...ie Heated grips.
I think Halfords will do a free battery check for you if you ride over
"Bike starting problems"... like looking at other bikes' birds, knocking over bigger bikes' pints, etc?
Quote from: tucola on December 01, 2016, 02:03:16 PM
"Bike starting problems"... like looking at other bikes' birds, knocking over bigger bikes' pints, etc?
:rofl: :rofl:
New regulator has turned up went to take battery out to charge it , it's swollen and the top of it is half off and it won't charge , now do you think the battery has just gone and the regulator is fine? If I put another battery in it and the regulator is fucked will it then fry that battery?
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 17, 2016, 08:03:36 PM
New regulator has turned up went to take battery out to charge it , it's swollen and the top of it is half off and it won't charge , now do you think the battery has just gone and the regulator is fine? If I put another battery in it and the regulator is fucked will it then fry that battery?
You have a new regulator, so fit that and a new battery and all should be well.
I'll also point out that right at the start of this thread I suggested the battery was PROBABLY fucked but check the reg/rec anyway as they are a known weak point on Hondas. I wasn't the only one so when you come on here and ask for advice please read it, you never know you may get the correct answer as you did in this case by the sounds of it.
Can't believe it's taken you nearly 3 weeks to get to this point ;)
It's because of my hours , not had time to actually do it , I'll change the reg it's just a pain to get too
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 17, 2016, 09:07:58 PM
It's because of my hours , not had time to actually do it , I'll change the reg it's just a pain to get too
oh poor you, just do it ;)
Urrrrgh let's hope the Chinese reg fits
Could you not just buy the right Honda one and know it fits?
Quote from: David W on December 18, 2016, 07:59:24 AM
Could you not just buy the right Honda one and know it fits?
yeah for a lot more money , the one I've got was funnily enough recommended by a Honda main dealer......
Changed the reg and battery , not the battery it had in it but very close specs , started after a bit of a moan (not been started in couple of weeks) it's charging battery so looks good , my only question is about the battery I've put in it as to do I need to replace it , it was fully charged about 8 months ago has magically kept a full charge according to charger , the thing that's worrying me is ,it's been on a radiator for a couple of months is the heat from that going to have damaged the battery?
Yes....No...Maybe.
Multiple choice answer. And did you really leave a Bike battery next to a Radiator....sigh x 100.
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 18, 2016, 09:04:00 AM
Changed the reg and battery , not the battery it had in it but very close specs , started after a bit of a moan (not been started in couple of weeks) it's charging battery so looks good , my only question is about the battery I've put in it as to do I need to replace it , it was fully charged about 8 months ago has magically kept a full charge according to charger , the thing that's worrying me is ,it's been on a radiator for a couple of months is the heat from that going to have damaged the battery?
jests you couldn't make it up!!!!!!
WTF would you keep a battery on a radiator??????
Keep it warm?
It was the wrong battery , just chucked it in spare room and forgot about it
Fucking broke down on way to work , complete loss of power , am I correct in assuming that it is impossible for it to be caused by the battery as the bike was running?
No
I'm wrong about battery or right?
You are WRONG. It could be the battery.
Quote from: GRUMPY on December 19, 2016, 11:23:41 AM
You are WRONG. It could be the battery.
Good , I'll put a yuasa in it tonight and see if it does the same
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 19, 2016, 10:56:35 AM
I'm wrong about battery or right?
No to being correct...you are incorrect.
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For gods sake just buy a brand new bike, and never do ANY work on it yourself!
Quote from: PJ on December 19, 2016, 10:32:16 PM
For gods sake just buy a brand new bike, and never do ANY work on it yourself!
Sounds like a plan :azn:
Its worked for Alzo.
Quote from: Green_Ninja on November 30, 2016, 09:21:44 PM
Battery is probably fooked, cold kills em
Quote from: Green_Ninja on December 18, 2016, 10:16:09 AM
WTF would you keep a battery on a radiator??????
Quote from: Alzo on December 18, 2016, 09:44:54 AM
Yes....No...Maybe.
Multiple choice answer. And did you really leave a Bike battery next to a Radiator....sigh x 100.
In his defence..... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Battery should be with me any money and another replacement regulator tomorrow so fingers crossed that sorts it
Changed the regulator again , put a brand new , good brand battery in and absolutely nothing no power to anything , am I right in thinking the possibly dodgy battery may just have blown a fuse?
Or fried part of the wiring loom. I'm assuming you have checked each and every connections and Earth's.
From what I can see they all seem to be fine
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 24, 2016, 05:03:00 PM
From what I can see they all seem to be fine
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does that mean you have actually checked or just had a quick look? Have you checked the fuse (normally 30amp I think) on the back of the starter relay?
Quote from: Green_Ninja on December 24, 2016, 08:18:43 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on December 24, 2016, 05:03:00 PM
From what I can see they all seem to be fine
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does that mean you have actually checked or just had a quick look? Have you checked the fuse (normally 30amp I think) on the back of the starter relay?
Wasn't allowed to check properly as it's "family time"... Had a nose couldn't actually find the fuse box , I'm hoping it's just a fuse but my money would be on something more time consuming
Got to the main fuse , (with much cuts to my hands) blown to bits , changed that lights come on but h.i.s.s wouldn't disengage tried other key and it worked and then original worked so I've put it down to it possibly needing a moment , only thing I've not checked is if it's charging battery as my daughter has hidden the multi meter somewhere..... But it's looking good , started up nicely
She's hidden it for your own safety. :rofl:
That's what the missus said!
:rofl:
:azn:
FFS 4 pages in. Did it start?
It did!
Test rode it all appears normal , checked voltage and battery was reading 12.99 volts goes up to 13.50 when idling goes up to 14.50 when reved , drops when lights are on but goes up again when reved , never drops below 13.50.... So I would say it's behaving how it should
Sounds spot on.