Anyone had or ridden one? Ive seen a 2010 Biaggi rep with 1500 miles on the clock for £9500. Ohlins forks and shock, Brembo front and rear brakes as standard. It seems a lot of bike for the money, albiet an 8 year old bike. Ive always had inline 4s and never ridden a V4.
Any views or pointers?
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Engines are fragile. Lots of valve issues.
Aprilia dealers are generally crap (scooter sales and servicing majority) and parts can be hard to come by.
Get a warranty would be my advice. Post 2015 bikes (I think) much better due to improvements in valves (titanium with better temp dispersion) design.
They are awesome though. Had a launch model Tuono APRC
Cheers MOz. Thats something to consider. Do you know if there was a recall on the valves?
Dave wood would be doing any work to it and reckons he can map it to 200 bhp! Not that i need or am capable of using that :rofl:
I've test ridden one. They are small (don't know your vitals!) and the engine is awesome BUT the horror stories are horrifying. I'm not sure Id be happy spending that much without warranty.
Is it for sale at DW?? Will you use it for mega mileage or as a toy??
No mate DW aren't selling one but he and DW junior are sorting one that they already have as a track bike for next year. It willl be for the occasional ride out such as Assen next year for Motogp and a few track days
Onyerbike Aylesbury are selling it
Im 6'1 and 16 stone but have owned a road going commuter ZX636 B1 for a few years and managed it ok but wouldn't want anything smaller.
From memory it is B1H size.
As I said, make sure the warranty is rock solid. Are OYB Aprilia dealers?? I don't think they are???
When I bought my Tuono I was at Bzn and the nearest Aprilia main dealer was Hemel / Watford way. That was a joke.
Lack of back up would have me running for the hills.
And 1500 miles in 8 years - that's done a lot of standing. I'd be expecting fresh oil at least every year for that.
They service it at point of sale so should be ok plus it has FSH.
OYB are Aprilia dealers. Im Aylesbury so Hemel/Watford isnt that bad either
When you say lack of back up Alzo, do you mean parts? Or service centres/dealers?
Service centre...dealers...and the parts networks...Aprilia themselves have recently admitted their coverage in Britain needs much improvement...the other weak point I believe is the charging system...regular failure with hefty repair bills...as Moz says a decent warranty would be essential.
Hmmmm.....ZX10r might be more value for money then!!!
Quote from: Maddog on November 14, 2018, 08:04:47 PM
Hmmmm.....ZX10r might be more value for money then!!!
Of the two it's where I'd place my hard earned...but I am definitely an inline 4 person. 😊
The V4 shits all over an IL4 for character, noise, torque etc.
If the warranty back up is there - I'd go for the Aprilia. It's a lovely bike and you'll have the APRC package which was industry leading when it came out.
I have it on good authority that the bike is an absolute weapon.... but generally Aprilia are a pain in the ass to own. My mate is a regular rider and says the pain is worth it.... but I couldn't do it to myself!
worth doing a bit of research on the mileage. The last Aprilia I had any dealings with used to reset the odometer every time the battery went flat!
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 15, 2018, 06:28:37 AM
The V4 shits all over an IL4 for character, noise, torque etc.
It really doesn't...one of these mythical made up sayings...in terms of performance there is very little in any of these bikes...so just buy your preference...I rode a 1200 Monster the other week...and if that engine is character then I want characterless...I was sooooo glad to get back on my silky seemless never ending inline 4 engine...it just doesn't get better...and that is fact.
How can you comment Alzo?
You've never owned a sports V4 to my knowledge?
I've owned both and the V4 is better than an IL4 in every way. Nothing to do with absolute power and everything to do with the low down tractability the V4 gains over the IL4. Crossplane aside (which is very similar to the feel of a V) why do all MotoGP bikes use the V config????
There's nothing wrong with an IL4 - a V is just better and provides a different experience.
I'm not attacking you directly, I respect your liking of the Il4 but IMO you are wrong. And that is a fact x x
I've test rode many bikes...I've listened to friends/ owners...I've watched many videos/reviews (some videos lasted longer than your ownership 😂😉)...recently ridden with a buddy who has a Panigale V4S and they aren't all that...not any quicker or character filled or indeed any of the superlatives that people choose to use.
PS: I don't see anything as an attack...just exchanging points of view.😊
Quote from: GRUMPY on November 15, 2018, 08:11:44 PM
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on November 15, 2018, 07:02:11 PM
why do all MotoGP bikes use the V config????
Yamaha M1. ;)
I refer you to my crossplane comment. The firing order simulates a V :tongue:
It is. I thought it was a V.
It's the only one though (happy to argue the Yamaha config and the fact they needed to alter the firing order after admitting an IL4 was too peaky).
Anyway - I'd much prefer to own and ride the RSV4.
V twin's ftw!
Quote from: komp on November 16, 2018, 09:01:32 AM
V twin's ftw!
Inline 4...gives you more. Poet: Alzo :rofl:
You could make an IL4 fire all 4 cylinders at once to give it the character of a big single, but it will still be an IL4.
Quote from: GRUMPY on November 16, 2018, 11:54:03 AM
You could make an IL4 fire all 4 cylinders at once to give it the character of a big single, but it will still be an IL4.
It would have the character of an IL4 exploding and firing bits of hot metal into the riders gentleman's area. Which is precisely what it would be.
:rofl:
So.....have we all agreed now?? :rofl: :rofl:
Yes. V4 infinitely better than a peaky IL4.
Buy the RSV4 (test ride both though)......
Yes...inline 4s are the engine to have
Don't buy a money pit Aprilia...get the Kwak...enjoy. 😊 :rofl:
V4 is pretty much the optimal bike engine configuration. Perfect primary balance, good packaging, narrow crank, straight inlet tracts. Only drawback really is exhaust routing and clearance at the front between front cylinders and front wheel.
Quote from: David W on November 16, 2018, 07:59:04 PM
V4 is pretty much the optimal bike engine configuration. Perfect primary balance, good packaging, narrow crank, straight inlet tracts. Only drawback really is exhaust routing and clearance at the front between front cylinders and front wheel.
And heat dissipation...and poor fuel economy...so not THAT optimal for a vehicle with a Rider inches away and limited fuel carrying capacity.
Well cheers for the input lads. Im still undecided as to what to get. The RSV4 like a few have said sounds epic and has a different look compared to most bikes i see on the roads. However, for the £9500 for a 2010 RSV4 i can get a newer ZX10.....16 or 17 plate if i up the budget a few hundred quid so my sensible side is saying ZX10. However theres this little thing saying fcuk it and go Italian and deal with the consequences :afro: !!!
Quote from: Maddog on November 17, 2018, 11:02:38 AM
Well cheers for the input lads. Im still undecided as to what to get. The RSV4 like a few have said sounds epic and has a different look compared to most bikes i see on the roads. However, for the £9500 for a 2010 RSV4 i can get a newer ZX10.....16 or 17 plate if i up the budget a few hundred quid so my sensible side is saying ZX10. However theres this little thing saying fcuk it and go Italian and deal with the consequences :afro: !!!
Standing at the roadside waiting for the Breakdown truck...😣😣😣😉
Talking to the Aprilia guy at the NEC he said the valves issue was caused by people fitting short stubby cans and not running he approved map. It was always exhaust valves that failed. If that bike has the approved Akky on it and has been mapped too it'll be fine.
Yep its got the official Akky exhaust on it!
See if you can get evidence of remap fitted with can.
Quote from: Alzo on November 16, 2018, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: David W on November 16, 2018, 07:59:04 PM
V4 is pretty much the optimal bike engine configuration. Perfect primary balance, good packaging, narrow crank, straight inlet tracts. Only drawback really is exhaust routing and clearance at the front between front cylinders and front wheel.
And heat dissipation...and poor fuel economy...so not THAT optimal for a vehicle with a Rider inches away and limited fuel carrying capacity.
Eh? You literally made that up! :rofl:
Quote from: David W on November 17, 2018, 08:01:19 PM
Quote from: Alzo on November 16, 2018, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: David W on November 16, 2018, 07:59:04 PM
V4 is pretty much the optimal bike engine configuration. Perfect primary balance, good packaging, narrow crank, straight inlet tracts. Only drawback really is exhaust routing and clearance at the front between front cylinders and front wheel.
And heat dissipation...and poor fuel economy...so not THAT optimal for a vehicle with a Rider inches away and limited fuel carrying capacity.
Eh? You literally made that up! :rofl:
The man is full of IL4 blinkered shit 😂😉
Fact...ask a Panigale V4s owner...heat off engine unbearable...Ducati accept there is issues...80 miles can empty the tank...his words not mine...so nope...didn't make anything up...😊...V4 engines are not optimal...flawed is a better description.
Fuel economy accurate. The Tuono V4 was hot for having worse economy than rivals but only by a small amount.
Heat - never had any issues. Lots of engine configs on sportsbikes heat your nads.
Agree...my 2007 R1 could get hot...but according to the chap I run with and the forum he is in it is beyond acceptable...Ducati have already recalled and added more heat shield...but improvement is not great.
Anyway in truth the comments on this thread were always intended to be "Tongue in cheek"...so one shall bow out gracefully 😊
Quote from: Alzo on November 18, 2018, 01:23:05 AM
Fact...ask a Panigale V4s owner...heat off engine unbearable...Ducati accept there is issues...80 miles can empty the tank...his words not mine...so nope...didn't make anything up...😊...V4 engines are not optimal...flawed is a better description.
An Engine that makes more power than rivals uses more fuel and produces more heat?
Say it ain't so!
Only drawback of a V4 is that they are expensive to make. Inline 4 is motorcycling by Aldi.
I emptied the tank of my SP2 at Donington in less than 50 too. #winning
Quote from: David W on November 18, 2018, 09:31:28 AM
Quote from: Alzo on November 18, 2018, 01:23:05 AM
Fact...ask a Panigale V4s owner...heat off engine unbearable...Ducati accept there is issues...80 miles can empty the tank...his words not mine...so nope...didn't make anything up...😊...V4 engines are not optimal...flawed is a better description.
An Engine that makes more power than rivals uses more fuel and produces more heat?
Say it ain't so!
Only drawback of a V4 is that they are expensive to make. Inline 4 is motorcycling by Aldi.
I emptied the tank of my SP2 at Donington in less than 50 too. #winning
I emptied my tank at the 1st Corner at Knockhill...#beatthat.
Forgetting to put some in doesn't count :rofl:
Well, Ive gone and done it. I pick up a 2011 RSV4 Factory APRC on saturday. Its Dave Woods personal bike. Cant wait to get it out on the road!! :moto:
Quote from: Maddog on February 07, 2019, 04:48:43 PM
Well, Ive gone and done it. I pick up a 2011 RSV4 Factory APRC on saturday. Its Dave Woods personal bike. Cant wait to get it out on the road!! :moto:
Straight back...bend your knees.
Congratulations.
:thumbleft: :afro: :moto:
Where is Dave moving the business to Maddog??
Congrats on the bike!!
He's moving to a place in Buckingham, so around 15-20 mins from Silverstone
Congratulations on the bike. May you have many happy and safe miles. :moto: :moto: :moto: :moto:
Quote from: Maddog on February 07, 2019, 07:43:12 PM
He's moving to a place in Buckingham, so around 15-20 mins from Silverstone
Not that far away from where he is now then. Still not close enough for me sadly!
Owned and Raced one throughout 2015 ...
Electronics were ace in the day, a bit behind now but still pretty good.
Power - no way will one see 200bhp at the wheel, Tim Radley did all the BSB development with Motec and Aprilia and once they got near 195 the stock motors became very fragile, gearboxes are not so robust either. One of my pals took one to 2nd is BSB Cup...
Chassis, epic, really really good.
Its tiny, I mean SMALL. Think of a compact R6
Parts supply - proved a ballache through the ownership cycle - understand they are better now but regular waiting for months for parts.
Cheers mc101. Its good to get feedback from people that have owned one.
Im pretty lucky that i live near to an Aprilia dealer so hopefully wont have any parts issues. I presume service parts are pretty easy to get?
If you know of any road fairing and lights for sale, drop me a pm as im after a set. :evil: