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General Discussions => Bike Talk => Topic started by: Alzo on November 13, 2019, 09:32:21 PM

Title: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: Alzo on November 13, 2019, 09:32:21 PM
If...the powers that be decided a Horsepwer cap was to be applied to road going motorcycles irrespective of CC's or engine configuration what would we be accepting of...100bhp...150bhp...thoughts?
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: Jarse on November 14, 2019, 12:23:04 AM
100 not enough. Going back to the ZZR1100 days and the "gentleman's agreement" to cap power.

2 up with luggage over distance and you are falling well short.

I've never had 150 so will leave others to discuss the upper threshold.
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: Alzo on November 14, 2019, 07:53:15 AM
The power of my current S1000R at 165bhp and 80 odd foot pounds is for me a nice balance...not crazy stupid...but enough to provide plenty go and keep me safe...I think underpowered bikes are unsafe if you cannot at least match the performance of a modern car.
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: 7550 on November 14, 2019, 10:34:33 AM
My REX has 151bhp at the back wheel. Torque must be about the 80s too. For the roads that is more than enough. Unless you are planning on doing jail time speeds. My SX has less power than the REX and has done 2 up touring and I have never thought the SX was lacking.( in reflash mode)
Can't remember what the manufacturers gentlemen's agreement was back in the day , 155 bhp ? IF they were to bring it back 155 would be enough for the roads IMO. Don't want to see any restrictions though.


Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: komp on November 14, 2019, 11:10:05 AM
no idea what bhp either of my bikes have.
I just know its enough!
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: Thegodfather on November 14, 2019, 06:33:04 PM
If there was a cap then 150 to 160 would be more than enough on the road I reckon.
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: terry950sm on November 14, 2019, 07:08:39 PM
I am all for max 100bhp on the road. Anything more is wasted. Power restrictions will come so be prepared.
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: MOzZereLLa on November 14, 2019, 07:18:06 PM
135-145 bhp would be perfect.

Handling and ultra light weight to match and you're laughing.
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: Jarse on November 14, 2019, 07:27:01 PM
Depends what you use your bike for.
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: terry950sm on November 14, 2019, 09:34:12 PM
I bet most people don't use  more than 100bhp while riding on the road.
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: Kitb4460 on November 15, 2019, 09:53:56 AM
My Zed is abut 115 now with decat. It is plenty for me in my " older " years and i'm happy with that.

Had bikes with more when i was younger and daft.

Never riden one of todays sportsbikes so couldn't comment on how much the fire breathing ones feel.

My opinion would be 150 is plenty for todays roads.
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: Neio79 on November 15, 2019, 12:03:48 PM
140 ish on the 848 Evo, if i had it tuned , over that but that is more than enough for the road TBH.

I cant see why 200+BHP is needed on a road going bike. you literally can't use it.
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: Jimhas7 on November 15, 2019, 08:16:16 PM
I dont want to see a cap but if thats whats coming I guess there is not much we can do.

I am just glad I lived through the petrol head generation and had all my fun when I was growing up, I am planning on keeping my bike as long as I can and making the most of it on track where I can use more of the HP than I ever should on a public road albeit within my meagre capabilities :rofl:

Oh and id say as we have landed at 200BHP then why cut back just stop it there?
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: Alzo on November 15, 2019, 08:47:51 PM
I have no idea if there is any talk on capping power...I was merely asking what folks felt was the right balance.
I want a 200 bhp bike....why...just because...there's no need...but there is a want.
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: Jimhas7 on November 15, 2019, 08:52:58 PM
Sold, so do I... 200 it is then  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: mc101 on December 19, 2019, 09:18:38 AM
220+ about right :-)
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: MOzZereLLa on December 19, 2019, 02:44:48 PM
Quote from: mc101 on December 19, 2019, 09:18:38 AM220+ about right :-)
The tiny jet engine that starts my main engine has more than that 😂
Title: Re: Cap on Horsepower.
Post by: Manic636 on December 19, 2019, 03:25:00 PM
Depends on mode and style of riding, if I'm completely honest the 120 the B1 had was plenty for the road but the GSXS at 150 feels about right, Having rode the GS1200 with 124 it felt ok but also that I'd get a little bored with it especially as I was considering one for 2 Up with luggage.. Remember the BMW K1 which had 100BHP and was produced to the agreement but BMW spent a fortune with all the bodywork and wind tunnel testing, interesting as it was I don't think I'd buy a modern equivalent.
Fancy a go on the new super duke with 180BHP tho ;-)