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Title: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: mc101 on March 13, 2020, 11:01:28 AM
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: Jimhas7 on March 13, 2020, 10:22:07 PM
Nice footage. Have you got a complete lap so I can do my homework (Hoping my April trip goes ahead...)  :grin:

My mate went off at the turn before on the second session of the first day. He stayed on but buckled both wheels and it cost him 500 euros to get the wheels sorted out. He didnt get back out until Saturday PM as a result...  :rofl:

It was a good week though, did a PB but still im yet to crack 1.50 though but not too far away now.

You were going well looking at the timings  :moto:
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: 1-600-matt on March 13, 2020, 11:37:19 PM
I did more or less the same thing when I was there last year. Bit more gas through 5 then minor shittage of pants combined with looking at the gravel and went straight on rather than turn right for turn 6. Soon as I was in the curbs I was cursing myself. Stayed on though. Just had to run through the gravel and rejoin at the exit of turn 7!
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: Phil_8 on March 16, 2020, 05:01:08 PM
Not surprised the aprrillia ran off, I dont think they hit a single apex did they?
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: Maddog on March 16, 2020, 06:17:46 PM
Random question....but......what speed is accurate? The dash or the overlay?
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: mc101 on March 18, 2020, 10:55:42 AM
Quote from: Jimhas7 on March 13, 2020, 10:22:07 PMNice footage. Have you got a complete lap so I can do my homework (Hoping my April trip goes ahead...)  :grin:

My mate went off at the turn before on the second session of the first day. He stayed on but buckled both wheels and it cost him 500 euros to get the wheels sorted out. He didnt get back out until Saturday PM as a result...  :rofl:

It was a good week though, did a PB but still im yet to crack 1.50 though but not too far away now.

You were going well looking at the timings  :moto:

Yes the camera is with the bike but I've got a 1.45 on camera I think from memory.

Ended up in the top half dozen riders from 162 attendee's behind three superbike/superstock lads in the top 3 spots so dont feel too bad depsite my advacning years lol.

I doubt you'll get too many people much below 1.50 on a trackday fella so thats a good effort !!

Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: mc101 on March 18, 2020, 10:56:46 AM
Quote from: 1-600-matt on March 13, 2020, 11:37:19 PMI did more or less the same thing when I was there last year. Bit more gas through 5 then minor shittage of pants combined with looking at the gravel and went straight on rather than turn right for turn 6. Soon as I was in the curbs I was cursing myself. Stayed on though. Just had to run through the gravel and rejoin at the exit of turn 7!

So easy to do there ... Must not look at the gravel trap !  Hell I nearly followed him by thinking "where the fuck are you going" and almost rode in after him lol.
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: mc101 on March 18, 2020, 10:59:19 AM
Quote from: Maddog on March 16, 2020, 06:17:46 PMRandom question....but......what speed is accurate? The dash or the overlay?

The overlay is pretty acurrate although I' although the sync is a bit out I see - all done by the gopro iphone s/w fwiw.  The dash is out due to the non stock gearing etc.

Data logger is coming back with the bike on MOnday so we can see what the optimal laptime would have been over the 3 days ... will spuff over myself if its sub 43 ;-)
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: Jimhas7 on March 18, 2020, 07:55:08 PM
Quote from: mc101 on March 18, 2020, 10:55:42 AM
Quote from: Jimhas7 on March 13, 2020, 10:22:07 PMNice footage. Have you got a complete lap so I can do my homework (Hoping my April trip goes ahead...)  :grin:

My mate went off at the turn before on the second session of the first day. He stayed on but buckled both wheels and it cost him 500 euros to get the wheels sorted out. He didnt get back out until Saturday PM as a result...  :rofl:

It was a good week though, did a PB but still im yet to crack 1.50 though but not too far away now.

You were going well looking at the timings  :moto:

Yes the camera is with the bike but I've got a 1.45 on camera I think from memory.

Ended up in the top half dozen riders from 162 attendee's behind three superbike/superstock lads in the top 3 spots so dont feel too bad depsite my advacning years lol.

I doubt you'll get too many people much below 1.50 on a trackday fella so thats a good effort !!



Not bad for me as it was the first time back in 12 months, I made the top 40... just by the end of the event so I may have made a mobile chicane for you guys in group 4 if id got to do my time quicker earlier in the week. It is probably the only way I would get sub 1.50 being at the bottom of Group 4 and seeing what you guys are doing rather than now being one of the quickest in group 3 on any event.

Would love to see best sectors added together and for sure id expect to see an ideal lap you could be getting. Get that video up if you get a chance, please

My times are all fairly consistent over a session, typically within a second of each lap so pleased to be able to repeat the times so consistently. Need data (Or most likely Broggie which was the plan at the next event) to drag me round further with times at the circuit.

If we get any more track time out there (I have 6 more days hopefully they are honored when the opportunity returns) been
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: mc101 on March 20, 2020, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: Jimhas7 on March 18, 2020, 07:55:08 PM
Quote from: mc101 on March 18, 2020, 10:55:42 AM
Quote from: Jimhas7 on March 13, 2020, 10:22:07 PMNice footage. Have you got a complete lap so I can do my homework (Hoping my April trip goes ahead...)  :grin:

My mate went off at the turn before on the second session of the first day. He stayed on but buckled both wheels and it cost him 500 euros to get the wheels sorted out. He didnt get back out until Saturday PM as a result...  :rofl:

It was a good week though, did a PB but still im yet to crack 1.50 though but not too far away now.

You were going well looking at the timings  :moto:

Yes the camera is with the bike but I've got a 1.45 on camera I think from memory.

Ended up in the top half dozen riders from 162 attendee's behind three superbike/superstock lads in the top 3 spots so dont feel too bad depsite my advacning years lol.

I doubt you'll get too many people much below 1.50 on a trackday fella so thats a good effort !!



Not bad for me as it was the first time back in 12 months, I made the top 40... just by the end of the event so I may have made a mobile chicane for you guys in group 4 if id got to do my time quicker earlier in the week. It is probably the only way I would get sub 1.50 being at the bottom of Group 4 and seeing what you guys are doing rather than now being one of the quickest in group 3 on any event.

Would love to see best sectors added together and for sure id expect to see an ideal lap you could be getting. Get that video up if you get a chance, please

My times are all fairly consistent over a session, typically within a second of each lap so pleased to be able to repeat the times so consistently. Need data (Or most likely Broggie which was the plan at the next event) to drag me round further with times at the circuit.

If we get any more track time out there (I have 6 more days hopefully they are honored when the opportunity returns) been

Steves good - its tought to help folks looking for a second or two ...

get yourself a AIM Solo - you can then take data from elsewhere and compare but as usual the best/safest improvemnts come from being in the right place at the right speed. ;-)


Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: Jimhas7 on March 20, 2020, 09:17:27 PM
Steves good - its thought to help folks looking for a second or two ...

Exactly what I need, have you had any time with him? One of the group I have been with and he got to sub 1,50 so sounds promising, lets hope we don't have to wait 12 months before we can even consider it.

Our bikes are still out there on the Bikes on holiday deal...
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: Andy M on April 17, 2020, 07:25:07 PM
I always had almeria down as a bit of a shitty smallish track but it looks ok from your video
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: mc101 on April 20, 2020, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: Andy M on April 17, 2020, 07:25:07 PMI always had almeria down as a bit of a shitty smallish track but it looks ok from your video

Nope its large ...a couple of hundred yards shorter than Snetterton 300.
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: mc101 on April 20, 2020, 03:30:48 PM
Quote from: Jimhas7 on March 18, 2020, 07:55:08 PM
Quote from: mc101 on March 18, 2020, 10:55:42 AM
Quote from: Jimhas7 on March 13, 2020, 10:22:07 PMNice footage. Have you got a complete lap so I can do my homework (Hoping my April trip goes ahead...)  :grin:

My mate went off at the turn before on the second session of the first day. He stayed on but buckled both wheels and it cost him 500 euros to get the wheels sorted out. He didnt get back out until Saturday PM as a result...  :rofl:

It was a good week though, did a PB but still im yet to crack 1.50 though but not too far away now.

You were going well looking at the timings  :moto:

Yes the camera is with the bike but I've got a 1.45 on camera I think from memory.

Ended up in the top half dozen riders from 162 attendee's behind three superbike/superstock lads in the top 3 spots so dont feel too bad depsite my advacning years lol.

I doubt you'll get too many people much below 1.50 on a trackday fella so thats a good effort !!



Not bad for me as it was the first time back in 12 months, I made the top 40... just by the end of the event so I may have made a mobile chicane for you guys in group 4 if id got to do my time quicker earlier in the week. It is probably the only way I would get sub 1.50 being at the bottom of Group 4 and seeing what you guys are doing rather than now being one of the quickest in group 3 on any event.

Would love to see best sectors added together and for sure id expect to see an ideal lap you could be getting. Get that video up if you get a chance, please

My times are all fairly consistent over a session, typically within a second of each lap so pleased to be able to repeat the times so consistently. Need data (Or most likely Broggie which was the plan at the next event) to drag me round further with times at the circuit.

If we get any more track time out there (I have 6 more days hopefully they are honored when the opportunity returns) been

Finally got chance to look at the AIM data .... 1.42:383 was the best theoretical ...  I'll take that :-)
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: Jimhas7 on May 16, 2020, 04:26:33 PM
Finally got chance to look at the AIM data .... 1.42:383 was the best theoretical ...  I'll take that :-)
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Wow that's dammed fast and impressive. Shows what data logging can do for learning where you are going wrong. Where were you losing the time, in one particular area or at different sections at different times?

I'm itching to get back out as my 6 days are still on hold, ,We missed one planned trip due to the lockdown and plan to go as soon as restriction are eased enough to allow travel abroad with out 14 days isolation..
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: Andy M on May 19, 2020, 09:23:02 PM
Mc I need a air filter for the r6 before it goes for an ecu flash. What did Phil recommend for your r1?
Thanks
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: mc101 on June 01, 2020, 03:04:24 PM
MWR always according to Mr Seton fella -- ran them for years and no single problem etc.
Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: mc101 on June 01, 2020, 03:09:40 PM
Quote from: Jimhas7 on May 16, 2020, 04:26:33 PMFinally got chance to look at the AIM data .... 1.42:383 was the best theoretical ...  I'll take that :-)

Wow that's dammed fast and impressive. Shows what data logging can do for learning where you are going wrong. Where were you losing the time, in one particular area or at different sections at different times?

I'm itching to get back out as my 6 days are still on hold, ,We missed one planned trip due to the lockdown and plan to go as soon as restriction are eased enough to allow travel abroad with out 14 days isolation..

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On track days the biggest challenge is consistency and space.  Nearly always run into traffic at some point in a lap and you have to do the right thing and not stand folks up/take your time/be respectful of others etc.  Afterall no trophy for winning the trackday......

It does help if you have a view of the data, compare your consistency , look at the same sector after trying something different etc etc. 

LIke Snetterton yesterday, I can lap a 1.54 there .. yet trackday considitions 2min flat is pressing on and the laptimes can easily vary by 4+ seconds traffic permitting etc and tahts a place I know VERY well.

Well travel permitting we'll be heading out to Almeria for some "testing" early winter ... feel I have a 39 in me as yet lol



Title: Re: Lap of Almeria inc a couple of unfortunate crashes
Post by: Jimhas7 on July 05, 2020, 12:51:15 PM
Ditto with the Almeria reboot, still got 6 paid days to use up so looking as early as September and October if travel is on.

Probably going to leave the bike out there another year too and hope that things get easier for 2021 ...