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Title: Dear honda ....
Post by: mc101 on September 30, 2013, 08:22:30 PM
Dear Honda ... Please put this in a less vulnerable position in future. 

http://forums.13x.com/showpost.php?p=4259883&postcount=51 (http://forums.13x.com/showpost.php?p=4259883&postcount=51)

Love Dani x
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: MOzZereLLa on September 30, 2013, 08:49:24 PM
I was thinking about this today.

Considering they have brake lever guards how long before they introduce TC wiring "guards"?

In this "risk eliminating" society we live in it can't be far away.....
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: mc101 on September 30, 2013, 08:55:19 PM
Quote from: MOz on September 30, 2013, 08:49:24 PM
I was thinking about this today.

Considering they have brake lever guards how long before they introduce TC wiring "guards"?

In this "risk eliminating" society we live in it can't be far away.....

Hondas rookie mistake ... Never run anything valuable that is proud of the frame or swing arm. We even pin down our tc wiring to ensure it can't extend either side of the swingarm from its run on top...
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Evil636 on September 30, 2013, 11:32:31 PM
When I saw the race on Sunday I tweeted that Marquez had upset the rear of ped' and he obviously made enough contact to damage it. Unlucky for pedrosa but a good race be it was.
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: komp on October 01, 2013, 08:51:22 AM
apparently ducati run 2 cables for their rear wheel sensor
for redundancy incase 1 gets damaged!!
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Manic636 on October 01, 2013, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: komp on October 01, 2013, 08:51:22 AM
apparently ducati run 2 cables for their rear wheel sensor
for redundancy incase 1 gets damaged!!

Or fails lol
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Alzo on October 01, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
Dump all the electronic aids and ride them on real talent...sorted.
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Manic636 on October 01, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
Quote from: Alzo on October 01, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
Dump all the electronic aids and ride them on real talent...sorted.
The man talks sense (on this occasion  ;))
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Dom1 on October 01, 2013, 08:33:14 PM
Give them a bit more warning than Danny got before you turn them off though.
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: MOzZereLLa on October 01, 2013, 09:09:33 PM
Quote from: Alzo on October 01, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
Dump all the electronic aids and ride them on real talent...sorted.

Amen.  Valentino would wipe the floor with the lot of them.....
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Millhouse on October 01, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
Quote from: MOz on October 01, 2013, 09:09:33 PM
Quote from: Alzo on October 01, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
Dump all the electronic aids and ride them on real talent...sorted.

Amen.  Valentino would wipe the floor with the lot of them.....

3 years ago, maybe.
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: MOzZereLLa on October 01, 2013, 10:05:24 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on October 01, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
Quote from: MOz on October 01, 2013, 09:09:33 PM
Quote from: Alzo on October 01, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
Dump all the electronic aids and ride them on real talent...sorted.

Amen.  Valentino would wipe the floor with the lot of them.....

3 years ago, maybe.

Nope. If all the aids were removed tomorrow, he'd walk the next race.
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Millhouse on October 01, 2013, 10:07:23 PM
Moot point.


But IF they were, he'd still lose to stoner.

;)
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: mc101 on October 01, 2013, 10:11:47 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on October 01, 2013, 10:07:23 PM
Moot point.


But IF they were, he'd still lose to stoner.

;)

Not only moot but wrong ;-)
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Millhouse on October 01, 2013, 10:12:49 PM

Quote from: mc101 on October 01, 2013, 10:11:47 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on October 01, 2013, 10:07:23 PM
Moot point.


But IF they were, he'd still lose to MC101

;)

Not only moot but wrong ;-)

Bettererer???

;)
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: mc101 on October 01, 2013, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on October 01, 2013, 10:12:49 PM

Quote from: mc101 on October 01, 2013, 10:11:47 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on October 01, 2013, 10:07:23 PM
Moot point.


But IF they were, he'd still lose to MC101

;)

Not only moot but wrong ;-)



Bettererer???

;)

Took me a while to spot that lol.
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Evil636 on October 01, 2013, 10:32:33 PM
Quote from: MOz on October 01, 2013, 09:09:33 PM
Quote from: Alzo on October 01, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
Dump all the electronic aids and ride them on real talent...sorted.

Amen.  Valentino would wipe the floor with the lot of them.....
Agree, bit of a rossy fan myself tbh. I definately think he has got the non-aid riding talent to show em up a bit. Marquez and the likes have been born into aided riding on the big machines and it would definately make for some more interesting races.
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Steve R1 on October 02, 2013, 06:10:57 AM
If there were no electronic aids...... No crash...... Better racing.........Simples as the mere cats would say
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Gilby104 on October 02, 2013, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: Evil636 on October 01, 2013, 10:32:33 PM
Quote from: MOz on October 01, 2013, 09:09:33 PM
Quote from: Alzo on October 01, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
Dump all the electronic aids and ride them on real talent...sorted.

Amen.  Valentino would wipe the floor with the lot of them.....
Agree, bit of a rossy fan myself tbh. I definately think he has got the non-aid riding talent to show em up a bit. Marquez and the likes have been born into aided riding on the big machines and it would definately make for some more interesting races.

Would certainly bring Rossi and the other quick boys closer together but Jorge / Dani and especially Marquez would be caught up and on the pace without eleccy aids in no time at all.
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Alzo on October 02, 2013, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: Gilby104 on October 02, 2013, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: Evil636 on October 01, 2013, 10:32:33 PM
Quote from: MOz on October 01, 2013, 09:09:33 PM
Quote from: Alzo on October 01, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
Dump all the electronic aids and ride them on real talent...sorted.

Amen.  Valentino would wipe the floor with the lot of them.....
Agree, bit of a rossy fan myself tbh. I definately think he has got the non-aid riding talent to show em up a bit. Marquez and the likes have been born into aided riding on the big machines and it would definately make for some more interesting races.

Would certainly bring Rossi and the other quick boys closer together but Jorge / Dani and especially Marquez would be caught up and on the pace without eleccy aids in no time at all.
The good part would be for us though...we would know we were actually watching natural ability and not who has the best technicians.
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: David W on October 08, 2013, 07:20:29 AM
Best thing about Dani's crash was putting to bed the PR bullshit we keep getting from teams that the top guys ride with hardly any Traction Control.  Only honest one is Jorge when he said something like 'I wouldn't ride this bike without it, because the one time I forgot it tried to send me to the moon'.
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Gilby104 on October 09, 2013, 10:12:48 AM
Quote from: David w on October 08, 2013, 07:20:29 AM
Best thing about Dani's crash was putting to bed the PR bullshit we keep getting from teams that the top guys ride with hardly any Traction Control.  Only honest one is Jorge when he said something like 'I wouldn't ride this bike without it, because the one time I forgot it tried to send me to the moon'.

It's obvious from seeing them live how much some rely on TC, you can hear the bikes TC cutting in at the same point in the same corners constantly. I don't think they necessarily need it though, but because it's there they (or some) use it. Imagine it's the same with slipper clutches
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: David W on October 09, 2013, 02:41:29 PM
I think you'd be amazed how ingrained the electronics are on these bikes.  I doubt they'd get past the first lap without them.  They certainly wouldn't get to the end of the race because they'd run out of fuel about 3 laps from the end!

But that's what Honda want to concentrate in MotoGP, so that's what we've got.....
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Gilby104 on October 09, 2013, 03:34:22 PM
Quote from: David w on October 09, 2013, 02:41:29 PM
I think you'd be amazed how ingrained the electronics are on these bikes.  I doubt they'd get past the first lap without them.  They certainly wouldn't get to the end of the race because they'd run out of fuel about 3 laps from the end!

But that's what Honda want to concentrate in MotoGP, so that's what we've got.....

Oh yeah sorry, I don't mean turn the electrics off on these bikes.... but I mean design a bike without them (ala the 500 era?) and these boys would be able to ride them  :moto:
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: David W on October 09, 2013, 08:13:41 PM
I agree.  Give them 24L fuel and restrict the electronics.  They'd gave to make the bikes with useable power rather than an erratic delivery controlled by the computers.

But like I said, Honda don't want that....
Title: Re: Dear honda ....
Post by: Millhouse on October 09, 2013, 08:29:16 PM
bollocks to that.
give em 15 litres. no leccy tronics and 2 races per meeting....