I have only been riding for 2 and a half summers but ever since going on track I don't really look forward to road riding any more. I can't really use my 750 properly for obvious reasons,
Loads of crud on the roads, always conscious of cameras and possible dangers etc
I really think tracking my bike has killed road riding. I intend to give it one more summer then see how I feel but didn't see this coming so early on!
Stu
not been on the road for several years now for the very same reason
looking at getting a dirt bike now though!! :moto:
Quote from: Millhouse on December 05, 2013, 05:11:49 PM
not been on the road for several years now for the very same reason
looking at getting a dirt bike now though!! :moto:
I'd seriously reconsider that until you have ascertained just how many green lanes are fairly close to where you live and that your local authority supports the continued use of BOATs.
Love road riding...we have cracking roads to keep.us entertained.
Quote from: MOz on December 05, 2013, 05:27:50 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on December 05, 2013, 05:11:49 PM
not been on the road for several years now for the very same reason
looking at getting a dirt bike now though!! :moto:
;)
I'd seriously reconsider that until you have ascertained just how many green lanes are fairly close to where you live and that your local authority supports the continued use of BOATs.
Green lanes all the way to salisbury plain and loads of mx/enduro events locally.
Quote from: Millhouse on December 05, 2013, 05:11:49 PM
not been on the road for several years now for the very same reason
looking at getting a dirt bike now though!! :moto:
Yeah just figured it would take 5 years or so not just under 3!
Sounds fun! Won't have time for that and track days though.
Quote from: Millhouse on December 05, 2013, 05:34:05 PM
Quote from: MOz on December 05, 2013, 05:27:50 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on December 05, 2013, 05:11:49 PM
not been on the road for several years now for the very same reason
looking at getting a dirt bike now though!! :moto:
;)
I'd seriously reconsider that until you have ascertained just how many green lanes are fairly close to where you live and that your local authority supports the continued use of BOATs.
Green lanes all the way to salisbury plain and loads of mx/enduro events locally.
Lucky bastard.
Quote from: Alzo on December 05, 2013, 05:31:45 PM
Love road riding...we have cracking roads to keep.us entertained.
Same here. You need the right bike to enjoy road riding these days - sports bikes ain't it.
Yes definitely but not on a sports bike any more, the Speed Triple was excellent and the Street R is just bloody superb for road use, light flick able, comfy, good in town or out and will tour as long as you keep the sensible speeds.
The ZX10R is arguably a better bike, nearly twice the power at about the same weight etc etc, but it's not a patch on the Street for normal road riding.
Agree with Moz and GN...Sportsbikes are no use on public roads...so many good Naked/Adventure bikes out there and will provide miles more fun.
I think you need to have a different appreciation for your surroundings when road riding.
I enjoy riding on the road and track but i behave completely differently when one or the other.
Quote from: big gav on December 05, 2013, 09:15:21 PM
I think you need to have a different appreciation for your surroundings when road riding.
I enjoy riding on the road and track but i behave completely differently when one or the other.
Issue is can't ride sports bike on road the way you need to for enjoyment.
I'm not being funny but if you are riding hell for leather all the time on the road then its only a matter of time
before things go very wrong mate. I enjoy riding on the road but i know i have to pick and choose my moments when/where to be a bit silly. A lot of people i ride with know i'm not the slowest but often on a rideout i will be the one at the front backing off a bit......because i know its not worth it and i dont want to be the cause of an accident.
Quote from: big gav on December 05, 2013, 11:33:07 PM
I'm not being funny but if you are riding hell for leather all the time on the road then its only a matter of time
before things go very wrong mate. I enjoy riding on the road but i know i have to pick and choose my moments when/where to be a bit silly. A lot of people i ride with know i'm not the slowest but often on a rideout i will be the one at the front backing off a bit......because i know its not worth it and i dont want to be the cause of an accident.
lol. This is my point. I don't ride like info on track (I obviously) which is how the bike is designed to be ridden and as such don't derive the same pleasure from road riding. Maybe a naked is the way forward.
Quote from: big gav on December 05, 2013, 11:33:07 PM
I'm not being funny but if you are riding hell for leather all the time on the road then its only a matter of time
before things go very wrong mate. I enjoy riding on the road but i know i have to pick and choose my moments when/where to be a bit silly. A lot of people i ride with know i'm not the slowest but often on a rideout i will be the one at the front backing off a bit......because i know its not worth it and i dont want to be the cause of an accident.
Totally agree.
I ride on both road and track, R1 for summer and track R6 for winter, rain and wet track days
Up until recently I used to do 30 to 35k miles a year but now I only do about 20k miles a year, use the bike for commuting and ride outs. Road riding is completely different to track riding ( assuming I can actually reach the reach before binning the bike lol) on track you can push yourself more than on the road see what you can do with your bike, assess your skill against other riders in a semi controlled environment. The road is completely different. Far more idiots about on all manner of wheels people not seeing you, pot holes, mud, chippins pedestrians, people in tin cans in a world of their own road furniture, traffic coming the other way..animals .. Need I say more ....
But for me I love the road and track but for very different reasons....... I just love riding and would find it difficult to give them up. Your 750 will only go as fast on the road as your right wrist tells it to. I don't want to loose my licence so I get my need for speed on track.... And like big gav pick your places sensibly when on the road
Steve
I think riding a fast bike on track at a good pace ruins road riding to a certain extent. It makes you realise that when you think you're going fast on the road, you're really not, and if you rode at the same intensity on the road as you do on track you're going to kill someone or get put away. British riders have been brainwashed over the years to consume big sportsbikes and I'm glad that's finally changing. Luckily I've had my bike bucket list but if I get another one it will be a roadbike rather than anything with Sportsbike pretensions.
My bike's been off the road for two years, but will be up and running in the near future.
I've never done a track day, but would like to. My only track experience is go-karts, and I don't drive my car on the road like I do a go-kart (most of the time..).
For me, road riding is about transport, more than anything else.
Then there's heading off to Brighton for donuts with a couple of mates on a summers day- Something I wouldn't consider in a car!
Having a road bike opens up more possibilities than a car. As I've recently lost my dog, after 13 1/2 years, I'm looking forward to being able to jump on the bike in the holidays, and fuck off to places and friends on the bike without any ties. :moto:
i love riding my bike on the road despite how shit they are in this part of the world
just the fact i'm on a motorbike rather than stuck in a car is reason enough for me
if the buzz of going fast is only reason you own a bike then stick to the track
but if you ride a bike because you love motorbikes and love the freedom it brings it shouldn't matter how fast your riding
this is first year in a few years i have had alternative transport to the bike over the winter
but i've still managed to get on the bike at least once a week and still fucking love it and come home with big smile on my face
Well put Kieran.
on the road i enjoy beingvon a bike. Pootling along or being a bit naughty.
On track i enjoy thinking i know what i'm doing. When someone goes past me i just think they know more :)
Quote from: Stuno1 on December 05, 2013, 05:10:10 PM
I have only been riding for 2 and a half summers but ever since going on track I don't really look forward to road riding any more. I can't really use my 750 properly for obvious reasons,
Loads of crud on the roads, always conscious of cameras and possible dangers etc
I really think tracking my bike has killed road riding. I intend to give it one more summer then see how I feel but didn't see this coming so early on!
Stu
Every rider experiences this after doing a track day..... especially if your road rides were 'hoons'.
They can co-exist but you need to enjoy the different aspects of each rather than compare, because hooning on the road comes a very poor second to riding on a track.
People like Alzo and Moz have it cracked, they love their road riding and do the odd bit here and there on track.
I spent 20 years doing very little road riding, but I now enjoy the odd bimble...... I'm not a hardcore road biker though...... I'd love to be.
Quote from: komp on December 06, 2013, 08:39:07 AM
i love riding my bike on the road despite how shit they are in this part of the world
just the fact i'm on a motorbike rather than stuck in a car is reason enough for me
if the buzz of going fast is only reason you own a bike then stick to the track
but if you ride a bike because you love motorbikes and love the freedom it brings it shouldn't matter how fast your riding
this is first year in a few years i have had alternative transport to the bike over the winter
but i've still managed to get on the bike at least once a week and still fucking love it and come home with big smile on my face
+1
Just being on a bike is what does it for me. Nearly 28 and I'm still yet to buy a car. I have use of my girlfriends car but still ride almost all the time.
4th bike now, 2 of which are in the garage, the Z750R and Komps old NSR125R. It may be small but it's 2 stroke and a hell of a lot of fun on the road.
Quote from: Snozzeltoff on December 06, 2013, 09:07:23 AM
Quote from: komp on December 06, 2013, 08:39:07 AM
i love riding my bike on the road despite how shit they are in this part of the world
just the fact i'm on a motorbike rather than stuck in a car is reason enough for me
if the buzz of going fast is only reason you own a bike then stick to the track
but if you ride a bike because you love motorbikes and love the freedom it brings it shouldn't matter how fast your riding
this is first year in a few years i have had alternative transport to the bike over the winter
but i've still managed to get on the bike at least once a week and still fucking love it and come home with big smile on my face
+1
Just being on a bike is what does it for me. Nearly 28 and I'm still yet to buy a car. I have use of my girlfriends car but still ride almost all the time.
4th bike now, 2 of which are in the garage, the Z750R and Komps old NSR125R. It may be small but it's 2 stroke and a hell of a lot of fun on the road.
cant tell you how much i wish i still had the little NSR at the moment
it gave me so much enjoyment last winter, as got my bike fix without worrying about 998cc and my hamfisted throttle control lol
I've been riding for 14 years now, love track days, and with a bit of luck will be going racing in the next couple of years, but I wouldn't even consider giving up road riding. I would be starting racing next year, but cant bear the thought of selling either of my road bikes.
However, I think its as much about who you ride with rather than anything else. I found my interest waning until the last couple of years, but I've been fortunate to find a great bunch of guys up here that I enjoy riding with. Its usually brisk, but things can get quick when conditions suit. Time and place and all that.
Quote from: Alzo on December 05, 2013, 09:01:59 PM
Sportsbikes are no use on public roads...so many good Naked/Adventure bikes out there and will provide miles more fun.
I don't totally agree with this, but don't think for a second you need the latest and greatest. I have an F4 and NC30, the MV can be a pain at low speeds, but the NC is perfectly civilized, and its 21 years old. Neither have issues keeping up with modern kit - its only when speeds get very naughty that the 400 has an issue. I guarantee I have as much fun on either of mine as anyone on a naked..... maybe you're just getting old Alzo :)
At this moment in time I guess I've found what I want in a roadbike - I'm sure that will change as I do, but I also cant see a time when I dont have a race rep in the garage.
Saying that, with either of them I certainly know about it for the next couple of days after the scot runs :)
Before my accident I was thinking of selling the road bike anyway, I was hardly using it.
The cost of fuel added to a general apathy from all the people I used to ride with and the feeling that we were just going to the same old places was limiting my motivation.
The bits I enjoyed most was when a bunch of us got together and went somewhere for a weekend like the T2B runs or the Welsh Ninjafests. I had arranged a pass with the missus to do the Scotfest in 2012 but the accident ended that.
I would like a bike to go and do a Euro tour or Scotfest but if I am honest I struggle to get the time away and the funds so I am not bothered about another one for now just to go back to riding the same local roads.
Got my track bike and trials bike for fun and looking to add a trail/enduro bike next year.
Quote from: Dq on December 06, 2013, 09:54:35 AM
I've been riding for 14 years now, love track days, and with a bit of luck will be going racing in the next couple of years, but I wouldn't even consider giving up road riding. I would be starting racing next year, but cant bear the thought of selling either of my road bikes.
However, I think its as much about who you ride with rather than anything else. I found my interest waning until the last couple of years, but I've been fortunate to find a great bunch of guys up here that I enjoy riding with. Its usually brisk, but things can get quick when conditions suit. Time and place and all that.
Quote from: Alzo on December 05, 2013, 09:01:59 PM
Sportsbikes are no use on public roads...so many good Naked/Adventure bikes out there and will provide miles more fun.
I don't totally agree with this, but don't think for a second you need the latest and greatest. I have an F4 and NC30, the MV can be a pain at low speeds, but the NC is perfectly civilized, and its 21 years old. Neither have issues keeping up with modern kit - its only when speeds get very naughty that the 400 has an issue. I guarantee I have as much fun on either of mine as anyone on a naked..... maybe you're just getting old Alzo :)
For most they are harsh...uncomfortable...and way too quick...I've had my share and suffered the riding position for far too long...but there are many bikes for many people and I would never berate anyone's choice of bike.
As for the getting old...yes...but it comes to us all...blink and you'll be here too...
Some good for thought here. Thanks for all the replies.
Think I am going to see how I get on this summer and take it from there. I have moved to Essex so should be closer to better roads. In Uxbridge I had to ride a while before getting anywhere entertaining.
Stu
Quote from: Stuno1 on December 06, 2013, 02:10:22 PM
Some good for thought here. Thanks for all the replies.
Think I am going to see how I get on this summer and take it from there. I have moved to Essex so should be closer to better roads. In Uxbridge I had to ride a while before getting anywhere entertaining.
Stu
hahahaha well you wont find any in essex, all full of bloody car drivers
but must admit they do get better suffolk/norfolk way
Quote from: Stuno1 on December 06, 2013, 02:10:22 PM
Some good for thought here. Thanks for all the replies.
Think I am going to see how I get on this summer and take it from there. I have moved to Essex so should be closer to better roads. In Uxbridge I had to ride a while before getting anywhere entertaining.
Stu
If at all mate. No wonder you were thinking of giving it up - there are very few decent roads down south......
Quote from: MOz on December 06, 2013, 02:39:30 PM
Quote from: Stuno1 on December 06, 2013, 02:10:22 PM
Some good for thought here. Thanks for all the replies.
Think I am going to see how I get on this summer and take it from there. I have moved to Essex so should be closer to better roads. In Uxbridge I had to ride a while before getting anywhere entertaining.
Stu
If at all mate. No wonder you were thinking of giving it up - there are very few decent roads down south......
I reckon this is the main issue.
Of course you can't ride at track pace on the road but if you're 'lucky' enough to live in the north, borders or west Scotland (there are other places...) the idea of a sports bike on the road makes a lot more sense.
Gravel, people parked around corners, joggers, Police. I think about them all too much so I don't enjoy riding as often. I'm the site milk float and don't need to ride fast, but all of these things reduce the thrill. Still love riding the bike more than using the car, but laziness has hit me now!
I ride all day everyday, I've not been able to afford any trackday fun the last 2 years, had very little fun riding due to time & money....... it's had an adverse affect on my enjoyment in fact I'm sick to death of riding on the road, as soon as I can afford too I'll be taking my car test.
Sold my R1 (my perfect road biased sports bike) in January this year after riding on the road less and less. There were obvious events that led to road riding becoming a lot less enjoyable, the main one doesn't need bringing up again, but track riding over the past years has certainly made me see road riding in a completely different light from when I first passed my test.
It's now been nearly a year since I've ridden on the road, and I haven't missed it one bit, although I've been hankering after more 2 wheel shenanigans other than trackdays.
Im loving it again after getting myself off of a sports bike.. No need to silly speeds any more on the FZ8, it just as much fun riding around and you get the bonus of not having a sore arse, wrists, neck etc etc from being the prone position all the time..
Quote from: komp on December 06, 2013, 08:39:07 AM
i love riding my bike on the road despite how shit they are in this part of the world
just the fact i'm on a motorbike rather than stuck in a car is reason enough for me
if the buzz of going fast is only reason you own a bike then stick to the track
but if you ride a bike because you love motorbikes and love the freedom it brings it shouldn't matter how fast your riding
this is first year in a few years i have had alternative transport to the bike over the winter
but i've still managed to get on the bike at least once a week and still fucking love it and come home with big smile on my face
Plus 1.
Totally agree. We all ride because we love it, track or road it both, sports bikes, naked whatever .... You ride whatever bike you like we are all different. I love road and track but they are both different, you can't rude them the same.
You need to think road is road..... Track is track..... You don't ride on track like you do on the road and vice versa....... Simples as the mere cats would say.
Just enjoy your bike.
For me I could afford perhaps a track day a month, over the summer that's perhaps 8 track days, ok take the British weather into account and it may be 5 dry days. I could not survive a year only riding for 8 days. Knowing the bikes are in the garage and I can take them out whenever I want, and I ride 5 to 6 days a week, is what keeps me sane. I just love being in the bike free from traffic. The bike is my first choice of transport, the car only comes out at weekend when I have to take my wife or mum shopping. ....where I work is bike friendly..... I visit a lot if head teachers in my job and they remember me as do their governors as the biker man.... When I turn up in the car they are shocked and their first question is where is the bike.
I have never done a track day mainly because I only have textiles (Rukka) and I am too mean to buy a set of leathers and do not want to wear someone else's sweaty cast offs. However I do ride on the road for pleasure both in the UK and in Europe. I am well aware I could get badly hurt, die or get away "scott free" from riding motorcycles.
Track Days
Let's take a track day at Brands Hatch on the Indy circuit – I am going to leave the pit area and turn right downhill and then turn sharp right then turn slight left followed by another slight left then an uphill right and then another right onto the straight I started off on and repeat ad infinitum for 20 mins. Now it is not going to take me long to remember this and after a while unless I am completely useless I am going to get better and probably end up in "Inters". I might even end up in the "Fast Group" until I push so hard cos I think I am good and I enter the "kiity litter" at "warp speed" and damage myself and the bike.
Road Riding
On the weekend if I rise from my cot very early – say 07:00 and If I go and do a loop of Finchingfield from where I live in Kent I am going to do a 15 minute very boring bit of motorway until I get to the A12 turnoff then I am going to be on some of the finest and technical motorcycling roads the "sarf" of England can throw at me. I am not going to be able to remember every one of the hundreds of bends the 130mile Round Robin I have devised and I am going to be sorely tested on my motorcycling prowess as well as my ability to stay alive, not get nicked or SMIDSEY'd. I will eat my cake at Bosworths and then continue on slowly through picture postcard villages with unlikely names such as Steeple Bumpstead only to emerge onto more fantastic roads. I will arrive back home with my mates in tow and if time allows will down a pint in a local hostelry whilst discussing any "near death" experiences any of us might of encountered. I will sit at home in the evening and contemplate on whether it was a really sensible thing to do at my ripe old age of sixty and should I really be doing this? I will probably conclude that I actually feel alive because of it and have thoroughly enjoyed the day.
The same mates will venture out on summer Wednesday evenings meeting up about 18:00 when we will choose who leads and head south towards the coast. By about 19:00 we will be on the motorcycling equivalent of "cloud nine" as the traffic will have disappeared and all be at home watching Emmerdale or Corrie whilst we venture along the A264 and then turn south down towards the south coast possibly Rye then back through some great empty roads o join up with the A21 when it gets dark and home via the pub.
Several times in the Spring and Summer months we will embark on European trips avoiding motorways and riding the "N" roads as much as is possible or as time allows. Destinations will include Albert in the Somme, The Vosges and The Eifel. The ZZR will really stretch its legs on these trips. We will obey the speed limits through the towns if nothing else as a mark of respect to the indigenous population but once out of the towns we will enjoy those roads that can only be experienced in Europe. We will encounter long straights, sharpish bends, coat hanger bends, constant radius bends and all will test our abilities.
So Road Riding or Track days?
I will now quote several idioms - Horses for courses – You pays your money (and you takes your choice)
For me it has always been Road Riding since I was sixteen.
I've kinda gone full circle, started off road riding, then went onto track and disliked road riding, then cba with track riding, and have a new found love for road riding.
For me the road is more about the social side. Track was about the buzz, I actually can't be bothered with the stress of track riding (and staying upright).
Quote from: Foo on December 06, 2013, 11:40:06 PM
I've kinda gone full circle, started off road riding, then went onto track and disliked road riding, then cba with track riding, and have a new found love for road riding.
For me the road is more about the social side. Track was about the buzz, I actually can't be bothered with the stress of track riding (and staying upright).
Exactly where I'm at right now, Used to do 10+trackdays a year, and haven't ridden the roads for last 2 years.
This year, just couldn't be arsed with trackdays and have been reviving my old Falco from 2 years of neglect, going back to the roads to see if I can rekindle the spirit, otherwise the whole lot will be on Ebay.
Quote from: ninjabob on December 06, 2013, 11:33:11 PM
I have never done a track day mainly because I only have textiles (Rukka) and I am too mean to buy a set of leathers and do not want to wear someone else's sweaty cast offs. However I do ride on the road for pleasure both in the UK and in Europe. I am well aware I could get badly hurt, die or get away "scott free" from riding motorcycles.
Track Days
Let's take a track day at Brands Hatch on the Indy circuit – I am going to leave the pit area and turn right downhill and then turn sharp right then turn slight left followed by another slight left then an uphill right and then another right onto the straight I started off on and repeat ad infinitum for 20 mins. Now it is not going to take me long to remember this and after a while unless I am completely useless I am going to get better and probably end up in "Inters". I might even end up in the "Fast Group" until I push so hard cos I think I am good and I enter the "kiity litter" at "warp speed" and damage myself and the bike.
That's a lot of assumptions about track days considering you have never done one.............
I still enjoy both but riding on road has changed since I got quicker on track due to the fact I need to go faster to get the same enjoyment. The one thing track riding has done is raise my skill levels meaning riding at the pace I used to is now further away from my personnel limit meaning it's actually safer.
I do quite a few track days each year - I average about 15 - but if I had to choose road or track then I'd still choose road but it would be close. I'll be honest and say I struggle to see how people get enough riding from a handful of track days a year.
In the end there's no right answer - it depends what the individual wants from the each type of riding..............
Everyone would benefit from Track time...it allows you to ride more to the machines capacity...and makes the rider more aware of what can be achieved...many accidents on the roads are due to riders overshooting bends thinking that the bike wont make it...when in fact it would have with margins to spare.
Quote from: Alzo on December 07, 2013, 12:09:23 PM
Everyone would benefit from Track time...it allows you to ride more to the machines capacity...and makes the rider more aware of what can be achieved...many accidents on the roads are due to riders overshooting bends thinking that the bike wont make it...when in fact it would have with margins to spare.
this is why I always do track days on my road bike
its the only opportunity to get to learn its limits and capabilities and use it to anywhere near its capacity.. although still way below what it could do no doubt
I still enjoy road riding after 30 plus years. I also enjoy track days, something I've come to pretty late in my riding career and these have undoubtedly honed my road riding skills. On the few occasions that I can actually afford a track day I've used my road bike, a 10 year old B1 with minimal fettling, a can, braided hoses and decent pads. I tend to use Pirelli Supercorsa tyres for road and track (I don't ride in the winter as I ride to enjoy, not endure!) and I can safely say that the only limits I've found are in my head, the bike is still infinitely more capable than I am! That's not because I'm slow, I ride in the faster end of inters and could hold my own in fast group I reckon. Has that made me faster/better on the road? Without question it has, but my speed is always "appropriate" to the situation.
Love the roads even in the shitty weather! As long as I can keep my feet/hands warm! Was out on Boxing Day the Pennines looks stunning! All about riding to the conditions and your mood!
100 quid of petrol in the panzer gets me 600miles on the roads:-)
I don't get the buzz from track riding cos I'm not interested in passing folk, if it was a empty track to time trial different matter
No tracks near me anyway but miles and miles of fantastic roads
Used to road ride for about 10 years.
Then discovered trackdays -> road riding become very dull.
Then discovered racing -> trackdays become very dull/dangerous.
Theres no doubt that developing the right track skills (as opposed to the wrong track skills) helps with riding and driving on the roads. It reduces your tendency to have a panic reaction to events and importantly gives you much better insight and confidence in just whats possible on a modern motorcycle.
When my mate wrote off my G1, I rode his K6 gixxer thou virtually every day from March to Nov (about 5k ;) )
WHen he claimed it back I had the choice to go with the bigger cubes or back to a 600 and I took the latter. Whilst in reality, the B1 is still too much for the road when ridden hard, you have to really wring its neck to get up to silly speeds. No intention of ever selling it though, but may one day streetfighter it when I can no longer live with the riding position.
Ride on road and track (slowly) all year on a sports bike. I love every minute.
like Alzo says our roads are good up here and easily accessible.
For me its got to be the road, we're spoilt up here with our roads. However the trade off is only one proper circuit (Knockhill) and after doing a dozen track days I was fairly bored. After owning a few ninjas (4) I've found the perfect bike for me, the Speed triple.
The quality of your locality roads-wise is a massive factor.
Living in Oxfordshire was downright depressing, the lack of decent roads and millions of cars using them sucked the big one...
Thank God I am back in N Wales - biking heaven!
Quote from: MOz on January 10, 2014, 08:19:28 PM
The quality of your locality roads-wise is a massive factor.
Absolutely. I lived in Scotland for many years and love road riding there. I can't wait till the memorial rideout. It is so much fun every year. I enjoyed some really good battles with dq on his 400 while I was on a hired ER6F. :moto:
Whereas, living in London as I do now, it's harder to get that thrill from riding. A few years ago on my birthday, less than a year after moving to London, I decided to head out to find what a member here had described as the best biking road in Essex. It was utterly shite. Too much traffic, about six instances of roadkill on bends, potholes, and too few bendy bits. I came home thoroughly depressed. I've ridden about 600 miles in England in the last year.
I've done a few trackdays too, and they're a lot of fun but on a really good day, riding with your mates on the best roads in Scotland, it's really hard to imagine anything better.
Spot on Ray. I try not to take it for granted.
Quote from: Raydial on January 11, 2014, 03:54:55 PM
I enjoyed some really good battles with dq on his 400 while I was on a hired ER6F. :moto:
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I'm going to have the 750 with me this year :evil: will be good to see you again Ray
I'm thinking of hiring a Z1000SX this time. :)
Two up on the 1215 quarter tonne Tex will have its work cut out!
Quote from: Raydial on January 11, 2014, 08:28:23 PM
I'm thinking of hiring a Z1000SX this time. :)
Good choice sir :moto:
I love road riding, do at least 20'000 miles a year, living in the peak district makes road riding easy... and have a few good people to ride with and enjoy there company off the bikes too!
Did my first trackday in 2013 and really enjoyed it but also road riding too just pushes different buttons. Have to say I have never felt the need for more power than my 636 on the road but would have certainly liked more for the track.