Been aware of this for a while but it looks likes the final production version has been launched. Looks superb - 2T 125 power and weight!
This could change green laning for the better - no more noise for the NIMBYs to moan about.
I must try one.......
http://www.ktm.com/gb/freeride/freeride-e/highlights.html
wonder how long the battery would last for?
wouldnt want to be out on a greenlane when that dies!
Battery lasts at least 30 mins in the most aggressive motor "map" that MCN said is too aggressive for most (its more a MotoX type delivery). Realistically, 40 mins battery life during "hard riding" was experienced by MCN. That ain't bad.....
That's looks cool.
Quote from: MOz on December 12, 2013, 10:00:46 AM
Battery lasts at least 30 mins in the most aggressive motor "map" that MCN said is too aggressive for most (its more a MotoX type delivery). Realistically, 40 mins battery life during "hard riding" was experienced by MCN. That ain't bad.....
still not exactly amazing though.
charge time 1.5hrs. use time 40 mins. how many spare batteries (@ 2,000 euros each!!!) will you need for a days cocking around?
Quote from: Millhouse on December 12, 2013, 10:50:21 AM
Quote from: MOz on December 12, 2013, 10:00:46 AM
Battery lasts at least 30 mins in the most aggressive motor "map" that MCN said is too aggressive for most (its more a MotoX type delivery). Realistically, 40 mins battery life during "hard riding" was experienced by MCN. That ain't bad.....
still not exactly amazing though.
charge time 1.5hrs. use time 40 mins. how many spare batteries (@ 2,000 euros each!!!) will you need for a days cocking around?
I think its superb - what do you want, blood?
The nature of the bike and it use means a natural break of 90 mins after 45 mins hooning around is perfect. As its not a "motor" vehicle it could theoretically ride more trails than bikes can at the moment.
Its expensive, yes; but its definately a step in the right direction to allow more off road areas to be used. I'd happily take it on the Marin Trail in Snowdonia for example.
no, i think it's great. it's just that battery tech needs a mighty kick in the arse to improve run times!!
"As its not a "motor" vehicle it could theoretically ride more trails than bikes can at the moment."
I think you'll find that legally it will be classed as a Motor Vehicle and be subject to all the same rules an regulations. The only ones I am aware of that get around this are the ebikes that have a maximum speed of 15 miles an hour and have to be pedal assisted.
Moz likes it..."Deal with it"
What's the betting the ramblers and horsey set will get the law sorted so you can't ride it anywhere that you can't ride a trail bike now.
Would love one, really fancied an electric off roader since reading about the ZeroG one years ago.
as per Iains post. I'm pretty sure that it's already law....
Therefore, mountain bikes should be banned as well, no different IMO - AFAIAC there is no difference.....
Quote from: MOz on December 12, 2013, 01:39:53 PM
Therefore, mountain bikes should be banned as well, no different IMO - AFAIAC there is no difference.....
there is a huge difference the KTM has an engine, electric but an engine a MTB does not.
You can get electric motors for mountain bikes but I bet they wouldn't be banned.
Quote from: MOz on December 12, 2013, 02:21:04 PM
You can get electric motors for mountain bikes but I bet they wouldn't be banned.
not the same thing, an ebike or a MTB with a clip on bike is a motor assisted pushbike, the KTM is not.
bridleways, permissive access and BOATs only for MTBs Moz.
Quote from: MOz on December 12, 2013, 02:21:04 PM
You can get electric motors for mountain bikes but I bet they wouldn't be banned.
Construction and use means you have to pedal, and max assistance is 200 watts for a bike, 250 for a tandem and trike.
Any more than that and it has to be taxed, MOTd and insured like any other motorbike or moped.
This bike looks like fun, but don't be in any doubt that is anything other than a motor vehicle in the eyes of the law.
The only places motor vehicles can be driven legally is private land with permission BOATS or regular roads. the laws changed in 2005 regarding green laning thanks to the then Gov who were in bed with the Ramblers and was another way of giving the '4x4 driving toffs' a bloody nose....shame it also shafted all the enduro riders :(
At the end of the day government don't like bikes, we are seen as an irritation.
So electric mountain bike or electric pedal cycle fine environmentally friendly
Electric motorbike is a motorbike...... Nasty stuff..... The public don't like em.
Sorry for the negativity
But I too would love one but it would have to be small enough for my short legs to deal with
Boooooooooo!!!!
It's still awesome though!
Byways open to all traffic.
Obviously still asleep.
You've lost me...
I'm thinking you said "BOATs only for MTBs"...
I said are you sure it only for MTB's? as i thought it was Byways open to 'all' traffic. i.e cars, motorbikes etc.
Gotcha.
You missed the bridle ways and permissive RoW bit...
It's not like Mountain Bikers get it all their own way either. Walkers pretty much want the outdoors to themselves!
Cyclists do have to give way to horses and walkers on bridleways though...part of the law governing permissive use of them when it was written back in 68