Norfolk Police Video

[clipper]

wow!

we've all (most?) exceeded the speed limit but that's a hell of a price to pay

not gonna get into the blame game will just feel sad a life taken so young

TBH its why I have changed my road bike to an old Africa Twin and the ZX7R will be turned into a track bike

Getting older (50 in 6 days) with a wife and young family I'm happier pootling around at 60-70 and will save the high speeds for Cadwell Park

Ride safe everyone

[whoopee]

It affected me quite a bit watching that.
Not least because I know I've done plenty worse many, many times - not saying he was being silly just going a bit quick that's all - I'm probably with most in thinking that the car driver was way more to blame - as Gilby says though, at 60mph it would have bought both him & the car driver more TIME to possibly avoid a fatality.

His poor family - very sad.
R.I.P.

[johnsmith]

It is a pretty shocking video but demonstrates to me the reason why I assume that every car either waiting at or manoeuvring for a junction is trying to kill me.

Looking at the damage to the car, and the fact that the poor sod did not appear to be thrown very far indicates that all of the energy in the collision was dissipated in a very short space of time.  The same collision at 50 mph means the kinetic energy involved would be 4 times less, at 60 mph 3 times less.  I am thankful that all my many offs have only ever involved a long and graceful slide.

RIP

[Alzo]

I struggle with these videos...the loss of life is of course tragic...but they only serve to make people feel ill for a short time...most if not all car drivers watching that would blame the speed of the biker...so no learning there...with the greatest of respect to the family for their loss I can only see the release of this footage feeding the Anti bike brigade.

[Tiiimmmaaayyyy]

Mirror the sentiments about feeling for the family etc. but shit happens unfortunately. If he had been going slower the car would have turned before he got there, if he had been going faster it would have turned after he passed. Simplistic but it's just a case of wrong place, wrong time.

[MOzZereLLa]

I'd be very interested to look into stopping distances, reaction times, perceived closing speeds, aspect etc etc in this case.

My bet would be if he had been doing a lot closer to the speed limit he'd still be alive. 97 on an A road with that sort of junction at any time is risky as fuck. Slowing down and trusting nobody is the name of the game.

I also wonder if his attempts at missing the car cost him his life? It looks like the throw into the undergrowth might have seen him hit a tree etc rather than sailing straight ahead down the road and not having such a violent impact???

Any way you look at it. Tragic :-(

[karlv]

Agree with all the CWS, and he would've known that's a black spot on the A47 so should also have been slowing. Notorious spot for crossings & hgv's pulling out. All useless in hindsight & horrid accident.

[0luke0]

It's a tragedy but I agree with Moz, he should have taken more responsibility for himself.

[David W]

The driver admitted in court he didn't see him because he didn't look.

[MOzZereLLa]

The driver admitted in court he didn't see him because he didn't look.

Fair enough but I suspect a driver would have a much better chance of seeing a biker doing 60-65 at a junction than 97.

Driver should have looked, biker should have ridden more defensively at a point in the road where the hazard is higher.

As I said, avoidable and tragic.

[Alzo]

The car driver has accepted his part...and has received his sentence...he will also have to live the rest of his life with the memory of this horrific event...the biker paid for his actions with his life...no winners here.

[ash]

Hit a car head on moving at 10 mph whilst doing 40 yourself  and you have a collision speed of 50 mph.  Then read stuff like  this and if believed  you can die at much  lower speeds in a head on. http://www.learn-2-live.org.uk/speed

[karlv]

Over 1.5m views in 24 hours.

[Alzo]

Hit a car head on moving at 10 mph whilst doing 40 yourself  and you have a collision speed of 50 mph.  Then read stuff like  this and if believed  you can die at much  lower speeds in a head on. http://www.learn-2-live.org.uk/speed

Some of the statements in that link are pathetic...if you speed then you're likely to drink drive too...utter fucking stupidity to make such a connection...
There is not a driver in the whole wide world that hasn't broke the speed limit at some point.

[ash]

The worrying issue is that innatentive behaviour and poor judgment which caused the driver of the car to cross the path of the bike when they didn't have priority is portayed as the lesser of the evils.  It isn't the speed itself which kills, it is connecting with something else which does.