ZX6R vs ZX9R?

elbee · May 31, 2015, 09:55:40 AM

HEllo,

I am looking at bikes, is there much difference between the six and the nine?

My g1 had horribly bad handling so am trying to stay away from that era, but looking at some 2000-2004 zx9r's and some zx6r's too.

I imagine the bigger engine in the 9 would be more resilient and capable of longer service intervals etc, and be better for touring, both mpg wise and less of a headache, touring two up at 70 would be less revs for example...

your thoughts much appreciated

Luke

Carbon_ZX6R · May 31, 2015, 10:00:08 AM

The zx9r is an excellent all rounder in my opinion and can be picked up for next to nothing thesedays

There is quite a difference in power , as you would expect from a further 300cc

What would it mainly be used for?

Green_Ninja · May 31, 2015, 10:00:59 AM

The ZX9R is bigger then the ZX6R, wider mainly. What handling issues did you have with your G1 I had one for over 4 years, used in on Road and track and never had any issues with mine. I would assume it was an problem with your specific bike not the G1 in general.

The 9 has more torque and power but it is a bit heavier. I currently have a 1999 ZX9R C1 and the handling is fine, not as sharp as my Street Triple and it won't be as sharp as your B1 was obviously.

elbee · May 31, 2015, 10:09:39 AM

The g1 was very reluctant to turn into corners. If you google zx6r g1 wont turn you will get a lot of results, so it must be some issue with a lot of these bikes.

I suppose it could well have been head bearings or the suspension needing a re work but it scared me off them as I had a bad crash because I was going rather too fast and the bike wouldn't turn in.

It would be just commuting to work and back and on sunny days having a hasty ride about the twisties.

Carbon_ZX6R · May 31, 2015, 10:21:06 AM

The choice is your then either will happily do that in spades

Carbon_ZX6R · May 31, 2015, 10:21:37 AM

However the 9r makes a better commuter

Green_Ninja · May 31, 2015, 11:16:19 AM

Quote from: elbee on May 31, 2015, 10:09:39 AM
The g1 was very reluctant to turn into corners. If you google zx6r g1 wont turn you will get a lot of results, so it must be some issue with a lot of these bikes.

I suppose it could well have been head bearings or the suspension needing a re work but it scared me off them as I had a bad crash because I was going rather too fast and the bike wouldn't turn in.

It would be just commuting to work and back and on sunny days having a hasty ride about the twisties.

Nope never had that issue with mine so I would assume that there was something wrong with your particular bike. so you crashed because you were going too fast

Carbon_ZX6R · May 31, 2015, 11:20:21 AM

Sounds like you ran out of talent....

Carbon_ZX6R · May 31, 2015, 11:20:58 AM

Not a dig at you in anyway mate its happend to us all at somepoint

elbee · May 31, 2015, 11:27:27 AM

look guys, ive had three crashes, two of them defiantly my fault, the third was on this G1 - I had taken it to the garage twice about the handling, they said they are just "like that from factory"

Its hard to describe but its put me off them , thats all..

Millhouse · May 31, 2015, 12:53:10 PM

Welcome to the forum!

Standard fix for g/j/a was drop forks through yokes by 5-10mm and raise the rear by similar. It increases the head angle and improves turn in.

Loads of info from forums about it if you check, no "inherent" issues with them just a setup tweak needed. Having said that the b was night and day difference.

Looking at you budget an a1p would give the best of the 636 engine and less aggressive riding position and a setup/suspension service should see you right!

WizzBang · May 31, 2015, 01:00:18 PM

I'd change garage if I were you.

motto · May 31, 2015, 01:43:08 PM

Quote from: Millhouse on May 31, 2015, 12:53:10 PM
Welcome to the forum!

Standard fix for g/j/a was drop forks through yokes by 5-10mm and raise the rear by similar. It increases the head angle and improves turn in.

Loads of info from forums about it if you check, no "inherent" issues with them just a setup tweak needed. Having said that the b was night and day difference.

Looking at you budget an a1p would give the best of the 636 engine and less aggressive riding position and a setup/suspension service should see you right!

Second this - I had a J2 for 5 years, put nearly 50,000 miles on it including about 20 track days and thousands of miles of touring, and never had a problem with the handling. Dropping the front and raising the rear made a noticeable difference to the turn-in, much better on the track. Only other issue on the track was that the standard footpegs grind out really easily, aftermarket rearsets fixed that.

I thought the 6R was great for touring, cruising along at 80-ish would get great well over 50 mpg so 200 miles + tank range, and tyres will last longer than the 9R if you're going any serious distance. I guess if you're two-up and loaded with luggage the extra power of the 9 might be welcome... I've never tried a 9 though so can't compare.

Carbon_ZX6R · May 31, 2015, 01:56:34 PM

Best find a 9r to have a go on

comment · May 31, 2015, 02:02:48 PM

The more time I spend around people who blame the bike and garage chatter the more time I close my ears and day dream.

Had a G2, did over 50k miles on road and track and never had any trouble. Kept on top of servicing, made sure the suspension was kept fresh and set up to which it always did what I asked of it. To be fair it's still the most comfortable and confident bike I've had to date and I've had an RSV and ZX10R since.