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Title: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 20, 2014, 08:27:16 PM
Need new tyre's and don't get on with the fitted Dunlops. Decided that I'm going to go with supercorsa sp or bt-003rs. I know they both are rubbish for life, but they'll only be used on sunny Sundays. Is it down to personal preference or is one a better tyre?
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 20, 2014, 08:47:46 PM
I would use the supercorsas sticky as hell one of zx6rs came with one on the front ive used it in all conditions and have done 4000 miles on it and its still got a bit of life left in it and it was far from new when I got the bike
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 20, 2014, 08:52:26 PM
Supercorsa is the one I prefer but haven't had them on the road before so didn't know what the life was like. Just get so much feel with Pirelli, had Bridgestone before and it was good but think I'm just more of a Pirelli person... So if I do get caught out in the rain it's still rideable?
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 20, 2014, 08:56:25 PM
ive got a super corsa on the front and a bt023 on the rear ive ridden it hard in heavy rain and ive never lost any grip what so ever
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Fastas...... on June 20, 2014, 08:59:40 PM
They're a great tyre until you get caught in the rain! I mainly use scrubs from eBay, if you're lucky you can pick up a set that's only done a few practice laps for under a ton and I've always got 2 or 3 sets tucked away in the garage! SC2 are more than adequate on the road. Steer well clear of SC0 as they're super soft and will be gone faster than you can blink!
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 20, 2014, 09:04:35 PM
I hadn't thought about scrubs! That's a well good idea, I'll look into doing that.Just got to be careful to make sure they're a decent seller before I buy them, I guess.
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 20, 2014, 09:06:57 PM
ive never had problem in the rain but that's my experiance
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Millhouse on June 20, 2014, 09:16:57 PM
You've used Supercorsas in the wet, you know how they feel you donut!
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 20, 2014, 09:18:40 PM
Yeah, I hated it! Road is different from track though... I won't be riding in the rain unless I get caught out though, so shouldn't be a problem... He says...
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Alzo on June 20, 2014, 09:25:23 PM
The Super Corsas are lethal in the wet...life is piss poor...real sticky in the right conditions.
Title: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Millhouse on June 20, 2014, 09:27:31 PM
Metzeler m7rr are allegedly the tyre du jour. and not hyper expensive
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 20, 2014, 09:30:47 PM
Quote from: Alzo on June 20, 2014, 09:25:23 PM
The Super Corsas are lethal in the wet...life is piss poor...real sticky in the right conditions.

I knew life wouldn't be great and I'm a fair weather rider... Might have to risk it just for the grin factor on the occasional sunny day that we get.
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 20, 2014, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 20, 2014, 09:27:31 PM
Metzeler m7rr are allegedly the tyre du jour. and not hyper expensive

Any idea on life and wetness abilities?
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Millhouse on June 20, 2014, 09:32:30 PM
Awesome and great
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 20, 2014, 09:33:50 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 20, 2014, 09:32:30 PM
Awesome and great

Can't argue with a review like that  :afro:
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Millhouse on June 20, 2014, 09:35:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixdOhzg8QOA
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 20, 2014, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 20, 2014, 09:35:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixdOhzg8QOA

I may have been converted... Could have used a proper bike to test them on though.
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Millhouse on June 20, 2014, 09:40:54 PM
Yeah, what a shitter
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: WizzBang on June 20, 2014, 10:27:54 PM
If it's tyres for real world road riding, then Michelin Pilot Road 2ct were the tyre of choice for my R1.

If I bought another road bike then one of the first things I'd do is fit a set and not worry about tyres regardless of condition or riding.
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Fastas...... on June 20, 2014, 11:39:43 PM
To be honest I don't think there's any "bad" tyres out there, it's all down to preference. I've got pilot power 3 on at the moment (only coz I won them!) and they're far better than my riding ability  :moto:
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Alzo on June 21, 2014, 07:12:23 AM
I ditched the Corsas in favour of Pilot 4s...plenty grip in all conditions and longer life...allegedly.
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on June 21, 2014, 09:20:36 AM
Pilot power 3's for me. Good tyres and still life left after 3000 miles of mixed riding. Be careful with super corsas, they're not very grippy on ramps.
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 21, 2014, 09:34:34 AM
Think I've still got couple of sets of racetecs somewhere good old tyres them
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 21, 2014, 10:14:31 AM
I think I might try the Metzeler's. Cheaper than most of the top stuff and got really good reviews everywhere. Wear will be a lot better than supercorsa's and tread looks good for wet riding aswell. Pilot Powers appear to be the tyre of choice for most people though... Hmmmmm...
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 21, 2014, 10:45:07 AM
Had the old racetecs on the b1h the ones before they became interacts I've used them on track they wore pretty good to be fair and one the road they was well ok in the wet , I ride just as fast in the wet as dry and had a few moments but not binned it yet , if you want a cheap good tyre another one to look at is maxis sporty one cant remember what its called but its a decent enough tyre
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Millhouse on June 21, 2014, 11:06:05 AM
Is this for the rc8 Charlie? Not getting on with the dunny's?
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 21, 2014, 12:22:05 PM
I've had the Maxxis and crashed on the Maxxis, not a great fan.

Yeah, for the RC8. Can't get on with the Dunlop's, I know they're good tyres but not for me.
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Gobert on June 21, 2014, 04:00:11 PM
Are those OE Dunlops or replacement ones?

What model?
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Millhouse on June 21, 2014, 06:57:57 PM
Sportsmart II I think
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 22, 2014, 08:07:49 AM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 21, 2014, 06:57:57 PM
Sportsmart II I think

Andy, god of knowledge.
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Gobert on June 22, 2014, 10:32:31 AM
What's your issue with them?
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 22, 2014, 11:06:30 AM
Just don't seem to like the feel I get with them... I know they're really good tyre's, but I feel a lot better on Bridgestone and Pirelli's that I've had in the past. Also, it doesn't help that the guy before me put 1600 miles on them just doing motorway miles so turning in feels like falling of the edge of the world. I'd probably be ok with them if I had them from new but I fancy a change.
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Gobert on June 22, 2014, 11:19:19 AM
I can understand that - it's difficult to buy the same thing if you think it's throwing good money after bad.

Have you checked your suspension settings so you know the previous owner hasn't done something odd with them?

The only reason I'm suggesting this is that I run the original Sportsmarts on my road bike and feel wise they compare well with what I get from the tyres on my track bike.
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 22, 2014, 11:39:18 AM
I'm layed up in bed for the next month or so but after that I will have a look at suspension, won't be buying tyres until I'm able to start riding again anyway. Hadn't even thought that he may have changed it, who in their right mind buys a brand new rc8 and sells it after doing 1600 miles anyway?! Must've been a wrong'un...

Yeah, I can't work out why I don't like them either after all the reviews I've read. Most people rave about them.
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Millhouse on June 22, 2014, 12:17:47 PM
If you fancy I'll wear the sides down for you so they'll be evenly worn.

No need to even thank me, just keep the tank topped up....

:)
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 22, 2014, 12:20:56 PM
You might learn how to get your knee down if you ride a proper bike, that would be nice for you!
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Millhouse on June 22, 2014, 12:28:23 PM
Pfft, kneedown is for show offs.

Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 22, 2014, 12:29:49 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 22, 2014, 12:28:23 PM
Pfft, kneedown is for show offs.

:rofl:
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Green_Ninja on June 22, 2014, 01:38:41 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 22, 2014, 12:28:23 PM
Pfft, kneedown is for show offs.

the man is correct  :azn:
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: David W on June 22, 2014, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: CharlieRC8R on June 22, 2014, 11:06:30 AM
Just don't seem to like the feel I get with them... I know they're really good tyre's, but I feel a lot better on Bridgestone and Pirelli's that I've had in the past. Also, it doesn't help that the guy before me put 1600 miles on them just doing motorway miles so turning in feels like falling of the edge of the world. I'd probably be ok with them if I had them from new but I fancy a change.

Knackered tyres will feel crap regardless of being good ones or not.
If you're just using your bike on the road, Supercorsas, etc are a waste of money.  Buy some road tyres rather than something that is a racetrack biased tyre.
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Millhouse on June 22, 2014, 07:06:47 PM
Quote from: David W on June 22, 2014, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: CharlieRC8R on June 22, 2014, 11:06:30 AM
Just don't seem to like the feel I get with them... I know they're really good tyre's, but I feel a lot better on Bridgestone and Pirelli's that I've had in the past. Also, it doesn't help that the guy before me put 1600 miles on them just doing motorway miles so turning in feels like falling of the edge of the world. I'd probably be ok with them if I had them from new but I fancy a change.

Knackered tyres will feel cheap regardless of being good ones or not.
If you're just using your bike on the road, Supercorsas, etc are a waste of money.  Buy some road tyres rather than something that is a racetrack biased tyre.

Gotta agree!
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: CharlieRC8R on June 22, 2014, 08:13:19 PM
Yeah, I've seen the sensible light and I'm heading towards that now!
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Alzo on June 22, 2014, 08:18:29 PM
P4's are grippy...and look a really interesting bit of rubber...yes I'm sad...:-)
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Millhouse on June 22, 2014, 08:46:21 PM
We all know the last bit alzo!!

;)
Title: Re: Pirelli or Bridgestone...
Post by: Alzo on June 22, 2014, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 22, 2014, 08:46:21 PM
We all know the last bit alzo!!

;)
:tongue:  :moto: