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Title: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Evil636 on August 05, 2015, 12:35:03 PM
New tyres in order for the 6r. I've been on the maxxis diamonds for a couple of years now and I rate them especially good despite the general consensus of brand name slanging matches. I've got about 180 notes and I've wondered what I can have a look at changing to. I've found a pair of the Metzeler M7rr on the bay for £182 and I'm tempted to have a go at these. There's so many new compounds I can't decide on the Dunlop or michelin compounds because I tend to run the top down through commuting so something that isn't going to square off so easily needs to be considered. Any input people appreciated.
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on August 05, 2015, 12:54:45 PM
Michelin pilot power 3's for me. Toured the UK, 2 trackdays in and still plenty of life left. I'm on my 2nd set and get about 3-4k out of a rear which to me is pretty good. That's on an S1000rr too.
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: PJ on August 05, 2015, 02:19:34 PM
I've run Pilot Power 2CT's for years, now on my first set of Power 3's and can't fault them :-)
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Evil636 on August 05, 2015, 02:57:42 PM
The power 3's do they have the seperated compounds on the sides to the top?
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: PJ on August 05, 2015, 03:32:42 PM
Quote from: Evil636 on August 05, 2015, 02:57:42 PM
The power 3's do they have the seperated compounds on the sides to the top?

If you mean are they dual/triple compound then yep :-)

You can see it on mine as they are fairly new :

(https://peejay1977.smugmug.com/Odds/i-q47g85z/0/X2/IMG_0067-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on August 05, 2015, 04:27:36 PM
It looks like Peej has 3 compounds on his but that's cos he hasn't leant over very far ;)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/Tiiimmmaaayyyy/20140912_153117_resized_zpsunlvdayd.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/Tiiimmmaaayyyy/media/20140912_153117_resized_zpsunlvdayd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Gilby104 on August 05, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
I thought I had pilot power 3's..... I have an invoice for a rear pilot power 3.... but I'm pretty certain that isn't what I put back on my bike yesterday!

bugger! Was looking forward to having one now after these raving reviews!
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: PJ on August 05, 2015, 08:16:04 PM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on August 05, 2015, 04:27:36 PM
It looks like Peej has 3 compounds on his but that's cos he hasn't leant over very far ;)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/Tiiimmmaaayyyy/20140912_153117_resized_zpsunlvdayd.jpg) (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/Tiiimmmaaayyyy/media/20140912_153117_resized_zpsunlvdayd.jpg.html)

:rofl:

To be fair that was the day I got them after about 4 miles of riding on them lol

They don't like "quite' that bad now  :afro:
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Evil636 on August 05, 2015, 08:49:45 PM
Cheers guys will have a gander at them. You can definately see the change in compounds. What are they like in the wet?
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: PJ on August 05, 2015, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: Evil636 on August 05, 2015, 08:49:45 PM
Cheers guys will have a gander at them. You can definately see the change in compounds. What are they like in the wet?

Tim can probably comment better than me as I've not had mine long. But I've ridden twice in completely soaking wet weather and they were planted and felt safe as houses, not so much as a twitch.

I did 1000's on my old 2CT's (older generation) and I can confirm in the wet they are great. I did a couple of hundreds miles back from Scotland in 2012 in torrential rain.
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on August 05, 2015, 10:53:41 PM
I'm on my second set and haven't had any issues in the wet.  As an all round sporty tyre you can't really go wrong.  Although you can see the change in compound you can't feel it.
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Fastas...... on August 06, 2015, 08:15:48 AM
I can vouch for the power 3's. Bloody awesome tyre
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Gilby104 on August 06, 2015, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 05, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
I thought I had pilot power 3's..... I have an invoice for a rear pilot power 3.... but I'm pretty certain that isn't what I put back on my bike yesterday!

bugger! Was looking forward to having one now after these raving reviews!

had a look at these last night.... they are Pilot Road 3's.... anyone got any experience with these? not really had a go on it yet as the rear has only been out in the wet and still has the sheen on it.
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Green_Ninja on August 06, 2015, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 06, 2015, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 05, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
I thought I had pilot power 3's..... I have an invoice for a rear pilot power 3.... but I'm pretty certain that isn't what I put back on my bike yesterday!

bugger! Was looking forward to having one now after these raving reviews!

had a look at these last night.... they are Pilot Road 3's.... anyone got any experience with these? not really had a go on it yet as the rear has only been out in the wet and still has the sheen on it.

bloody good tyres mate, used those on my ZX10R.
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Gilby104 on August 06, 2015, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on August 06, 2015, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 06, 2015, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 05, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
I thought I had pilot power 3's..... I have an invoice for a rear pilot power 3.... but I'm pretty certain that isn't what I put back on my bike yesterday!

bugger! Was looking forward to having one now after these raving reviews!

had a look at these last night.... they are Pilot Road 3's.... anyone got any experience with these? not really had a go on it yet as the rear has only been out in the wet and still has the sheen on it.

bloody good tyres mate, used those on my ZX10R.

Ideal, are they just harder wearing / lower temp than the powers?
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on August 06, 2015, 11:30:33 AM
I think the pilots are more road orientated but to be honest unless you go on track or are a bit of a nut job on the road, you're not going to notice the difference
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Evil636 on August 06, 2015, 11:37:53 AM
Just spoke to my regular garage and he has an offer on Bridgestone Bt021's at £180 fitted for the pair. Any body using these as these are right in budget as I speak so just wondered. Are they a decent tyre?
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: PJ on August 06, 2015, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 06, 2015, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on August 06, 2015, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 06, 2015, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 05, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
I thought I had pilot power 3's..... I have an invoice for a rear pilot power 3.... but I'm pretty certain that isn't what I put back on my bike yesterday!

bugger! Was looking forward to having one now after these raving reviews!

had a look at these last night.... they are Pilot Road 3's.... anyone got any experience with these? not really had a go on it yet as the rear has only been out in the wet and still has the sheen on it.

bloody good tyres mate, used those on my ZX10R.

Ideal, are they just harder wearing / lower temp than the powers?

Essentially more road focused so better for higher mileage, better in the rain allegedly. I've heard Dave (Cos) say on his R1 he was riding at a silly pace on the Road 2's and they were awesome.
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: PJ on August 06, 2015, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: Evil636 on August 06, 2015, 11:37:53 AM
Just spoke to my regular garage and he has an offer on Bridgestone Bt021's at £180 fitted for the pair. Any body using these as these are right in budget as I speak so just wondered. Are they a decent tyre?

They have been out since at least 2008 from memory so they are probably considered old hat now, but I'm pretty sure everyone said they were a good tyre at the time, although I can't comment.
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Green_Ninja on August 06, 2015, 12:38:01 PM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 06, 2015, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on August 06, 2015, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 06, 2015, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 05, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
I thought I had pilot power 3's..... I have an invoice for a rear pilot power 3.... but I'm pretty certain that isn't what I put back on my bike yesterday!

bugger! Was looking forward to having one now after these raving reviews!

had a look at these last night.... they are Pilot Road 3's.... anyone got any experience with these? not really had a go on it yet as the rear has only been out in the wet and still has the sheen on it.

bloody good tyres mate, used those on my ZX10R.

Ideal, are they just harder wearing / lower temp than the powers?

basically but I did do a couple of trackdays on them with no issues
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Green_Ninja on August 06, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: PJ on August 06, 2015, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: Evil636 on August 06, 2015, 11:37:53 AM
Just spoke to my regular garage and he has an offer on Bridgestone Bt021's at £180 fitted for the pair. Any body using these as these are right in budget as I speak so just wondered. Are they a decent tyre?

They have been out since at least 2008 from memory so they are probably considered old hat now, but I'm pretty sure everyone said they were a good tyre at the time, although I can't comment.

021's are even older than that I think, they have been replaced by 023 and now T30, good tyres in their day but you can get better.
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Gilby104 on August 06, 2015, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: PJ on August 06, 2015, 12:01:43 PM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 06, 2015, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on August 06, 2015, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 06, 2015, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: Gilby104 on August 05, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
I thought I had pilot power 3's..... I have an invoice for a rear pilot power 3.... but I'm pretty certain that isn't what I put back on my bike yesterday!

bugger! Was looking forward to having one now after these raving reviews!

had a look at these last night.... they are Pilot Road 3's.... anyone got any experience with these? not really had a go on it yet as the rear has only been out in the wet and still has the sheen on it.

bloody good tyres mate, used those on my ZX10R.

Ideal, are they just harder wearing / lower temp than the powers?

Essentially more road focused so better for higher mileage, better in the rain allegedly. I've heard Dave (Cos) say on his R1 he was riding at a silly pace on the Road 2's and they were awesome.

Cheers Peej (and Cos), looking forward to having a proper go on them now!
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Evil636 on August 06, 2015, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on August 06, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: PJ on August 06, 2015, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: Evil636 on August 06, 2015, 11:37:53 AM
Just spoke to my regular garage and he has an offer on Bridgestone Bt021's at £180 fitted for the pair. Any body using these as these are right in budget as I speak so just wondered. Are they a decent tyre?

They have been out since at least 2008 from memory so they are probably considered old hat now, but I'm pretty sure everyone said they were a good tyre at the time, although I can't comment.

021's are even older than that I think, they have been replaced by 023 and now T30, good tyres in their day but you can get better.
Someone else said they were an old tyre. I just need something that will last the speed and not go flat so easily. Might have to up my budget I think. Any views on pirelli diablos or Metzeler z6's age? Use etc??
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: PJ on August 06, 2015, 04:29:08 PM
Quote from: Evil636 on August 06, 2015, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on August 06, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: PJ on August 06, 2015, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: Evil636 on August 06, 2015, 11:37:53 AM
Just spoke to my regular garage and he has an offer on Bridgestone Bt021's at £180 fitted for the pair. Any body using these as these are right in budget as I speak so just wondered. Are they a decent tyre?

They have been out since at least 2008 from memory so they are probably considered old hat now, but I'm pretty sure everyone said they were a good tyre at the time, although I can't comment.

021's are even older than that I think, they have been replaced by 023 and now T30, good tyres in their day but you can get better.
Someone else said they were an old tyre. I just need something that will last the speed and not go flat so easily. Might have to up my budget I think. Any views on pirelli diablos or Metzeler z6's age? Use etc??

Had 2 sets of Diablo Corsa 3's on my bikes and hated them both times, personal preference though. I know lots that love them.

I reckon nowadays there isn't really a "bad" tyre, just subtle differences to the feel and profile that make people prefer different ones.

I personally like Michelins but I've heard people state quite aggressively that they'll never buy another set, because of blah blah blah lol
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Gilby104 on August 06, 2015, 04:49:25 PM
Quote from: PJ on August 06, 2015, 04:29:08 PM
Quote from: Evil636 on August 06, 2015, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on August 06, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: PJ on August 06, 2015, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: Evil636 on August 06, 2015, 11:37:53 AM
Just spoke to my regular garage and he has an offer on Bridgestone Bt021's at £180 fitted for the pair. Any body using these as these are right in budget as I speak so just wondered. Are they a decent tyre?

They have been out since at least 2008 from memory so they are probably considered old hat now, but I'm pretty sure everyone said they were a good tyre at the time, although I can't comment.

021's are even older than that I think, they have been replaced by 023 and now T30, good tyres in their day but you can get better.
Someone else said they were an old tyre. I just need something that will last the speed and not go flat so easily. Might have to up my budget I think. Any views on pirelli diablos or Metzeler z6's age? Use etc??

Had 2 sets of Diablo Corsa 3's on my bikes and hated them both times, personal preference though. I know lots that love them.

I reckon nowadays there isn't really a "bad" tyre, just subtle differences to the feel and profile that make people prefer different ones.

I personally like Michelins but I've heard people state quite aggressively that they'll never buy another set, because of blah blah blah lol

I had the Pirelli Rosso Corsas, whatever is the slightly less sporty version od the tyres that come as standard on the Daytona. They were horrible in the wet, really horrible.... but in the cold and the wet.... my Christ.... fucking lethal. They used to spin up on very gentle throttle application in 4th gear at 30mph.....

whatever they were.... don't get those!
Title: Re: New rubber. Fancy a change.
Post by: Evil636 on August 06, 2015, 04:50:35 PM
I've been riding on the maxxis diamonds for a couple of years now and through no choice for stickier rubber and finances always liked them but this time I want to try something a bit different but like you say there are that many views and "personal preferences" till I put them on I'm not going to know.