Bouncing off another thread that talked about whether super-sports bikes are for the road (and following the sale of the Daytona) I have been getting seriously itchy about not having a bike.
Problem is my debt clearance is going pretty well and I can't afford to pile back into a shed load of debt to have the bike I really want (the Daytona I just sold). I have previously had an SV650 which I absolutely loved. The smiles for miles was great.
I was thinking about getting something around £1500-£3000 mark where I can get a sorted, middle of the road bike with low miles that I can just have fun on. Needs to be quick enough, handle well enough and not be stone faced ugly. I'd look at another SV650 but I can't find one like I had and the ones on sale all seem hideous (can't stand the S version) and have clip on bars, which, for the SV turns it from a fun bike into a bore!
What do you reckon? :moto:
Older Yamaha Fazer 600? Honda 600 Hornet?
You won't lose money:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Ducati-749-BIP-Red-/281221152494?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item417a163eee
or
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUCATI-748-CARBON-TERMIGNONIS-5-SPOKE-MARCHESINI-WHEELS-/331081731624?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4d16024e28
incidentally, take it from someone who's widely regarded as the most naturally gifted motorcycle rider the world has ever seen.... id est.... me...... the 749 is the most complete out of the box bike ever produced in terms of handling..... they are sublime.
thundercat...
Ho!
The title states non super-sports bikes - correct me if I'm wrong (and I never fucking am) but the 748, 749 and to a lesser extent, the Thundercat are FUCKING SPORTS BIKES.......
Misread. Get over it
Quote from: MOz on December 09, 2013, 08:07:24 PM
The title states non super-sports bikes - correct me if I'm wrong (and I never fucking am) but the 748, 749 and to a lesser extent, the Thundercat are FUCKING SPORTS BIKES.......
I was going to go for a slightly politer version or this..... "why can't you lot get in your heads that I just don't want a fucking sports bike.... deal with it".... but beaten to the punch.
The Ducati's are seriously tempting but I just can't do it to myself. I am not mechanically or electrically tuned in enough to ride such a ticking time bomb and the fear of unreliability would be enough to ruin it for me. If I was going to go back to a sports bike I think I'd have to accept the debt and go back to a daytona or probably the CBR600RR.
Problem with the Thundercat and the CBR600F (both of which I like and wanted - have had a 600f) is that they are still a bit too sporty as Moz says but also at that budget they are often starting to get a bit tired and if anything is scarier that going too fast on a sports bike its going too fast on one that isn't as happy as it used to be doing it.... my old CBR was a bit of a shed to be fair but riding it inspired no confidence at all.
It's not comfort I am looking for necessarily just a cheaper fun riding experience.
supermoto
speed/street trifle
yamahaha triply thingy (MT09 is it?)
kwaker w800
or something really off the wall, a BWM c1?
Quote from: Gilby104 on December 10, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
It's not comfort I am looking for necessarily just a cheaper fun riding experience.
(http://[url=http://www.motormeuk.nl/download_file/383/25d8b8d7780041b341f008e080a02000%5Dhttp://www.motormeuk.nl/download_file/383/25d8b8d7780041b341f008e080a02000%5B/url%5D)
(http://www.motormeuk.nl/download_file/383/25d8b8d7780041b341f008e080a02000)
I challenge you to find a more fun bike to ride.
Quote from: Millhouse on December 10, 2013, 11:57:08 AM
supermoto
speed/street trifle
yamahaha triply thingy (MT09 is it?)
kwaker w800
or something really off the wall, a BWM c1?
I like the MT09 but it's too expensive by quite a way, as are the Triumphs. The Kwaker is not for me at all.
What would be the best bet for a supermoto in the price range above?
The BMW... absolutely not!!
Neil I have ridden the Honda equivalent and it was a shed load of fun.... I'm just not sure I could part with my hard-earned to buy a 125 4 stroke. Would be next to useless if I wanted to go on a big ride or abroad etc and I am sure I would get pretty frustrated with the lack of guts in no time at all.
The Hornet is winning at the moment from what I have seen - but the supermoto might be a new avenue!
Tuono for smiles per hour.
Can be bought cheap these days.
suzuki drz400sm - 2500 ish for a reasonable looking one
KTM exc450 - similar price
but ALL requre lots of servicing!!
Had a DRZ400sm as a loan bike a number of years back......Dull as dishwater
Sorry missed the middle weight requirement.
My bad.
Quote from: Neil on December 10, 2013, 12:29:58 PM
Had a DRZ400sm as a loan bike a number of years back......Dull as dishwater
and you didn't think to mention that yesterday!!!
The Hornet gets my vote...proven...cheap...quick enough...looks good...spares aplenty.
Buel lightning?
Ducati streerfighter?
Triumph speed four
Kawasaki ER6
This is the first reasonable alternative to the Hornet I have found (road legal, good nick, not silly money etc)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-520-EXC-ORANGE-SUPERMOTO-/111234816828?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item19e61c9b3c
I do wonder whether it would be a better bike to own for a Sunday blast. Sure as hell no good for touring and long trips!!
Quote from: Gilby104 on December 10, 2013, 03:42:57 PM
This is the first reasonable alternative to the Hornet I have found (road legal, good nick, not silly money etc)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-520-EXC-ORANGE-SUPERMOTO-/111234816828?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item19e61c9b3c
I do wonder whether it would be a better bike to own for a Sunday blast. Sure as hell no good for touring and long trips!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Speed-Four-2004-53-plate-street-triple-style-600cc-in-roulette-green-/121232592329?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item1c3a068dc9
I stand corrected!
Mk2 SV650 would get my vote. :moto: The ER6 Ray hired for the Memorial Rideout was a cracking bike too, as is DaveH's. :moto: Could not believe how swift off the mark they were and I was on a 1050. :moto:
I'm guessing the ER6 would cost more than a like for like SV ? :moto:
Speed Four sounds a blast :moto:
:moto: :moto: :moto:
What the hell has happened to the front of that Speed Four ???!!!
Quote from: Jarse on December 10, 2013, 03:53:45 PM
What the hell has happened to the front of that Speed Four ???!!!
:rofl: it's supposed to look like that
Not the ones I recall...
I thought the lights were lower and closer to the ducts.
Yep, like this
(http://www.sellwithgoogle.net/ct/bikedemo/images/listing_photos/608_img_1983.jpg)
Not like this
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Triumph-Speed-Four-2004-53-plate-street-triple-style-600cc-in-roulette-green-/00/s/OTAyWDE2MDA=/z/nx0AAOxyUrZSpcVv/$_12.JPG)
Quote from: Neil on December 10, 2013, 12:00:24 PM
(pic of r125)
I challenge you to find a more fun bike to ride.
Aren't you forgetting:
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g288/lap_time/DSC03582.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/lap_time/media/DSC03582.jpg.html) :moto:
And it's not a sports bike either! You'd have to strap a couple together for middle-weight...
Surprised no ones said it yet, but what about a bandit?
Quote from: Neil on December 10, 2013, 12:00:24 PM
Quote from: Gilby104 on December 10, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
It's not comfort I am looking for necessarily just a cheaper fun riding experience.
(http://[url=http://www.motormeuk.nl/download_file/383/25d8b8d7780041b341f008e080a02000%5Dhttp://www.motormeuk.nl/download_file/383/25d8b8d7780041b341f008e080a02000%5B/url%5D)
(http://www.motormeuk.nl/download_file/383/25d8b8d7780041b341f008e080a02000)
I challenge you to find a more fun bike to ride.
I know you haven't lived a sheltered biking life Neil so please tell me that's a joke.
Quote from: Jarse on December 10, 2013, 04:03:43 PM
Not like this
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Triumph-Speed-Four-2004-53-plate-street-triple-style-600cc-in-roulette-green-/00/s/OTAyWDE2MDA=/z/nx0AAOxyUrZSpcVv/$_12.JPG)
Looks like someone has had the lights off it and put the bracket back on upside down, or done it on purpose to close the gap to the clocks.
Fugly bike both ways!
Quote from: David W on December 10, 2013, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: Jarse on December 10, 2013, 04:03:43 PM
Not like this
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Triumph-Speed-Four-2004-53-plate-street-triple-style-600cc-in-roulette-green-/00/s/OTAyWDE2MDA=/z/nx0AAOxyUrZSpcVv/$_12.JPG)
Fugly bike both ways!
Number 5 is alive!
Quote from: MOz on December 10, 2013, 05:07:59 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 10, 2013, 12:00:24 PM
Quote from: Gilby104 on December 10, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
It's not comfort I am looking for necessarily just a cheaper fun riding experience.
(http://[url=http://www.motormeuk.nl/download_file/383/25d8b8d7780041b341f008e080a02000%5Dhttp://www.motormeuk.nl/download_file/383/25d8b8d7780041b341f008e080a02000%5B/url%5D)
(http://www.motormeuk.nl/download_file/383/25d8b8d7780041b341f008e080a02000)
I challenge you to find a more fun bike to ride.
I know you haven't lived a sheltered biking life Neil so please tell me that's a joke.
EVERY time I have riden Amy's 125 I have got off it grinning me tits off...it really is such a hoot to ride, and a real refreshing change from big capacity bikes. Sure it lacks power, but it is sooooo light and flickable. Not every ride needs to be doubling the speed limit everywhere.
I am infact thinking of adding one to my stable to commute on and generally hoon around on at a pathetically low cost.
I can think of many alternatives as cheap that would be more fun - most powered by 2
Strokes.
Well, don't keep them all a secret...do tell
Quote from: Gilby104 on December 10, 2013, 03:42:57 PM
This is the first reasonable alternative to the Hornet I have found (road legal, good nick, not silly money etc)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-520-EXC-ORANGE-SUPERMOTO-/111234816828?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item19e61c9b3c
I do wonder whether it would be a better bike to own for a Sunday blast. Sure as hell no good for touring and long trips!!
Best to try a moto before you buy one.
That 520 is old technology and he is asking top money for it.