R1 monoblock conversion info required for my B1 ?

Started by ash, April 29, 2014, 09:37:42 PM

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ash

My brakes are feeling a bit crap right now. I have either the choice of getting a pair of monoblock R1/R6 calipers, or refurbing the standard Tokico's.

The B1 bolt spacing on the bottom of the fork leg for the radial calipers is 108mm so I need to know what will fit ?

M6RK/ Neil ? can you remember what you had to buy, are they all the same spacing for the 04 onwards 4 pot calipers ?

This is the thread revival .... can't believe it was 5 years ago  :shocked:

http://archive.mcnninjas.com/index.php?topic=84956.0

Carbon_ZX6R

Cant remember the measurement but needed spacers for monoblocks before I put brembos on
2004 ZX-6R B1H    
- Full Akra Titanium System                
- Gilles rear sets                     
- R&G Crash Bungs
- Hyperpro Rsc Damper
- Many other mods

Manic636

108mm is the same distance, the spacers may be required due to disc size but I cant remember what they were, tbh Ash I found the std calipers on my B1 to be more than sufficient when allied to Brembo pads and stainless hoses, did plan to put a brembo master on but when the calipers were serviced I decided no need although a nice bit of brembo m/c action is always an improvement

Carbon_ZX6R

What you useing the bike for as I could stop mine on her pretty nose with the standard brake only got the brembos for the e-penis boost
2004 ZX-6R B1H    
- Full Akra Titanium System                
- Gilles rear sets                     
- R&G Crash Bungs
- Hyperpro Rsc Damper
- Many other mods

ash

Perhaps it is a combination of the MC and the calipers needing a going over. I recall when M6 had his done, he said that the pads were much cheaper for the monoblocs than the Tokico B1 calipers, and I'll be needing a set in the next 12 months - Brembo full set for the front end is nearly £120

I know that a strip and overhaul will make a big difference, I am weighing up whether it is worth going the extra bit and switching properly.

m6rk

mine were for a zx10r and i wanted to to retain the standard disc size. So we needed to shave a little off the calipers to get them to sweep the disc surface.. cant remember exactly how much

and back to back the r1 calipers pissed over the tokico's...


ash

It was about 5mm IIRC. I'd consider bigger diameter rotors if I go down that road. The standard ones in the B1 are fairly small in diameter.

Did you also swap out the MC for a 16mm one M6  ?

m6rk

standard mc worked fine, but i swapped it out for the m/c that came with the r1 caliper as it was a radial jobbie but tbh i didn't notice much difference..

ash

Ta for that :) How much did the lot set you back ?

Carbon_ZX6R

2004 ZX-6R B1H    
- Full Akra Titanium System                
- Gilles rear sets                     
- R&G Crash Bungs
- Hyperpro Rsc Damper
- Many other mods

komp

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Carbon_ZX6R

Quote from: komp on April 30, 2014, 03:39:20 PM
:rofl: and double the value of the bike ;)
why not force a pair of FGR ohlins forks on there too maybe some bst wheels and a decent rider  :azn: could have a real weapon
2004 ZX-6R B1H    
- Full Akra Titanium System                
- Gilles rear sets                     
- R&G Crash Bungs
- Hyperpro Rsc Damper
- Many other mods

ash

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on April 30, 2014, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: komp on April 30, 2014, 03:39:20 PM
:rofl: and double the value of the bike ;)
why not force a pair of FGR ohlins forks on there too maybe some bst wheels and a decent rider  :azn: could have a real weapon

One step at a time for me. Brakes which don't feel like blocks of wood which don't rely on disk munchers to get a decent feel, and don't cost the earth when the pads are up for renewal is the goal. I'm not in any hurry to move the bike on, so I'm happy to chip away at it to get it the way I like it.

WizzBang

Take a look at any of the recent monoblock calipers fitted to any Jap sports bike.  They are all 108mm fitting and worst case scenario will only require some spacers to get the swept area matched to the disks.



ps what size discs does the B1 have (it's been a good few years since I had mine)

ash

Quote from: Neil on April 30, 2014, 05:53:43 PM
Take a look at any of the recent monoblock calipers fitted to any Jap sports bike.  They are all 108mm fitting and worst case scenario will only require some spacers to get the swept area matched to the disks.



ps what size discs does the B1 have (it's been a good few years since I had mine)

approx 275mm dia