Well the ktm has had her first proper ride and she handled everything I chucked at her from very fast corners to 60mph down a bridleway with 2ct tyres on her , I do feel like I've been spoilt speed wise with the sports bikes as she does run out of steam but give her the beans and up to 70mph she's a rocket
No faults have really risen I have to push the starter button approximately 3 times to start her as the first just cuts , so possible starter motor fault ,brake disk I think is warped as when stoping it feels like I keep letting go slightly then puting it back on, and I may need to tighten the headrace but it may be the disc giving that illusion, only thing it needs doing is suspension hardened up and I need to some how make it louder all in all the 2005 640 sm gets a thumbs up I'm very happy with her 

You should have purchased its big brother. 

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there is a strong chance I may very well do!

I did  however get it into my head that the 950/990 would feel more like a naked than a moto which put me off a bit

Down a bridleway?

I should hope not.

Quote from: Chojin on September 04, 2015, 06:34:51 PM
Down a bridleway?

I should hope not.

Well that's what it is used for but its a byway on paper

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on September 04, 2015, 05:46:27 PM
I did  however get it into my head that the 950/990 would feel more like a naked than a moto which put me off a bit

Just for the record. A 640sm and 950sm. Are not really supermotos. I think the term is street motos

Supermoto 300exc

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Supermoto 650 berg force edition

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Supermoto 500cr

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Supermoto 450smr

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Supermoto aprilia 550sxv

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Are you getting the idea now 

I blew up a 550 sxv!!   so the theme is if you can ride it more than 20 hours without needing at least a new piston its not a real supermoto? ill keep my faux moto

What is a supermoto?

Weren't they motocross bikes with road wheels fitted originally?

If that's the case only one of those photos is a true supermoto Tel.

2 are converted enduro bikes, 2 are purpose built race motos both road registered.

You do have a point moz

Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on September 04, 2015, 09:01:47 PM
What is a supermoto?

Weren't they motocross bikes with road wheels fitted originally?

If that's the case only one of those photos is a true supermoto Tel.

2 are converted enduro bikes, 2 are purpose built race motos both road registered.

sssssssssssshhhhhhhhhh he wont know the difference 

The 300 was one of the best looking motos I have seen.
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Therefore, his LC4 is as much a supermoto as the others in the pictures

All this talk of supermotos!!

Terry, what's a good wheel to look for going SM? Fancy some for my wr450!

Excels

Best for average cash.

Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on September 04, 2015, 09:29:43 PM
Therefore, his LC4 is as much a supermoto as the others in the pictures

Machines
Prior to the 1990s, supermoto bikes, including the precursor motorcycles used in Superbikers, were converted open-class two-stroke motocross or enduro bikes desired for their light weight and jumping abilities. The motorcycles currently used for Supermoto racing are predominantly single-cylinder four-stroke powered dirtbikes with 17-inch (430 mm), sometimes with 16.5-inch (420 mm) front wheels. The 17-inch (430 mm) wheels allow the use of up to 7.0-inch-wide (180 mm) superbike road racing slick tires. These are often hand-grooved on the rear tire to facilitate slightly better acceleration on the dirt stretches of a supermoto course. Suspension is lowered and slightly stiffened in comparison with a stock dirt bike, and braking power is improved with oversize front brake rotors and calipers. Despite the lack of trees on supermoto courses, hand guards are frequently added to supermoto bikes due the extreme cornering angles achieved by riders. Hand guards also greatly improve survivability of the brake & clutch levers during a fall making supermoto bikes highly crash resistant and often able to quickly re-enter the fray during a race following a crash.

In 1991, Italian manufacturer Gilera released the 'Nordwest' model, the first factory produced supermoto. Other European manufactures quickly followed suit, among them KTM, Husqvarna, Husaberg and CCM; all manufacturers whose emphasis were off-road models at the time. Models were developed for both track and road use. It took another ten years, until the mid-2000s for Japanese manufacturers, such as Yamaha (2004), Honda (2005) and Suzuki (2005) to start introducing supermoto models in the European market. Most of the supermoto bikes sold to the public are more domesticated models for road use rather than outright racing, for example the Suzuki DR-Z400SM.


Apex raceway supermoto
Due to the popularity, versatility, excitement and durability of these motorcycles, some owners modify them for street use. In order to do this, headlights, tail lights, horn, mirrors and street-legal tires among other occasional modifications are needed. Some state motor vehicle departments take a dim view of turning off-road bikes into street legal bikes, such as California which requires an on-road emissions designation from the manufacturer. In Europe most Supermotos are sold street legal from the factory and later tuned for race use. Supermoto type bikes make excellent city-goers as their upright seating position provides great visibility in traffic. Their narrow frames and light weight also make them incredibly maneuverable, as well as easier to ride in twisty or less than ideal road conditions that force most sportbike riders to slow down.