Nice bike moz. I had a ride on one of the above bikes. The one with the trick suspension.

Everything just seemed a blur when winding it on. 

Nice bike Moz. Exactly the model I'm also looking at if / when I get a job..

I did test ride an MT10 a week ago.. I know it's irrelevant now you got your R but here are my thoughts on the MT10..

TO start I'm also a bit meh on the looks but do quite fancy the night fluro version for my sins..  as for riding well it's the first time I've ridden a cross plane crank motor and I have to say it suited the naked style of bike very well once all the electronic gismos were turned down or off. Traction control on the highest setting was just plain annoying killing the power at the slightest lift of the front wheel..  which happened a lot..  There are three engine modes, standard, A and B. I believe that mode A is the 'race' mode as it were but the throttle was very snatchy as it's expecting you to go WOT immediately as soon as you roll the throttle and round town it was horrid but in standard mode it was fine and in the real world not hugely noticeable difference IMO..  but I only rode it for about 30 mins..

Compared to my FZ8 obviously it was a rocket ship but overall it felt really solid IMO..  Only negative for me were the all digital dash, I like a clock style rev counter and the seat..  it's basically a race rep seat and it's so hard, just ridiculous to fit it to this bike..  There is a 'comfort' seat option and I imagine they will be selling a lot of them..

I am yet to ride the S1000R but once I sort out my employment status I will try and ride them back to back but I did love the cross plane motor and it sounded amazing with the Akropovic can...  and I cant see the bike when I'm riding it..  lol..

Great to hear your thoughts.

I suspect a remap would sort the snatchy throttle out. I'll try and ride one next year because as awesome the S1000R is, the engine is banzai but characterless. It's the only negative for me.

Genuine question, what would make the engine have more character? More defined step in power like a two stroke? More grunt?

I prefer the extra grunt (but maintained Rev-ability if that's a word) of the cross plane crank.

The normal 4 doesn't have that (has always seemed too clinical to me, but that's not a bad thing).

I don't agree with the Cross plane engine having character...for me it was sterile...devoid of any feeling...it numbed the senses. The S1000r screams and keeps on giving...pure character. Fact. 😉

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
I don't agree with the Cross plane engine having character...for me it was sterile...devoid of any feeling...it numbed the senses. The S1000r screams and keeps on giving...pure character. Fact. 😉

so it should its modelled on the gsxr1000k5 engine 😉

Quote from: Manic636 on June 28, 2016, 07:38:17 PM

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
I don't agree with the Cross plane engine having character...for me it was sterile...devoid of any feeling...it numbed the senses. The S1000r screams and keeps on giving...pure character. Fact. 😉

so it should its modelled on the gsxr1000k5 engine 😉

Improved upon.... 

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 10:40:06 PM

Quote from: Manic636 on June 28, 2016, 07:38:17 PM

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
I don't agree with the Cross plane engine having character...for me it was sterile...devoid of any feeling...it numbed the senses. The S1000r screams and keeps on giving...pure character. Fact. 😉

so it should its modelled on the gsxr1000k5 engine 😉

Improved upon.... 

and then dumbed down for the single R 

Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on June 28, 2016, 10:44:03 PM

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 10:40:06 PM

Quote from: Manic636 on June 28, 2016, 07:38:17 PM

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
I don't agree with the Cross plane engine having character...for me it was sterile...devoid of any feeling...it numbed the senses. The S1000r screams and keeps on giving...pure character. Fact. 😉

so it should its modelled on the gsxr1000k5 engine 😉

Improved upon.... 

and then dumbed down for the single R 

I think if you do your homework it makes more power than the RR where it matters. 

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 10:59:21 PM

Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on June 28, 2016, 10:44:03 PM

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 10:40:06 PM

Quote from: Manic636 on June 28, 2016, 07:38:17 PM

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
I don't agree with the Cross plane engine having character...for me it was sterile...devoid of any feeling...it numbed the senses. The S1000r screams and keeps on giving...pure character. Fact. 😉

so it should its modelled on the gsxr1000k5 engine 😉

Improved upon.... 

and then dumbed down for the single R 

I think if you do your homework it makes more power than the RR where it matters. 

On the forum??

Quote from: Gilby104 on June 29, 2016, 09:13:45 AM

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 10:59:21 PM

Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on June 28, 2016, 10:44:03 PM

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 10:40:06 PM

Quote from: Manic636 on June 28, 2016, 07:38:17 PM

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
I don't agree with the Cross plane engine having character...for me it was sterile...devoid of any feeling...it numbed the senses. The S1000r screams and keeps on giving...pure character. Fact. 😉

so it should its modelled on the gsxr1000k5 engine 😉

Improved upon.... 

and then dumbed down for the single R 

I think if you do your homework it makes more power than the RR where it matters. 

On the forum??

On the road...willy waving is for others. The facts are out there. 

Quote from: Alzo on June 29, 2016, 09:23:45 AM

Quote from: Gilby104 on June 29, 2016, 09:13:45 AM

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 10:59:21 PM

Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on June 28, 2016, 10:44:03 PM

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 10:40:06 PM

Quote from: Manic636 on June 28, 2016, 07:38:17 PM

Quote from: Alzo on June 28, 2016, 05:46:02 PM
I don't agree with the Cross plane engine having character...for me it was sterile...devoid of any feeling...it numbed the senses. The S1000r screams and keeps on giving...pure character. Fact. 😉

so it should its modelled on the gsxr1000k5 engine 😉

Improved upon.... 

and then dumbed down for the single R 

I think if you do your homework it makes more power than the RR where it matters. 

On the forum??

On the road...willy waving is for others. The facts are out there. 

Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on June 28, 2016, 04:23:35 PM
Great to hear your thoughts.

I suspect a remap would sort the snatchy throttle out. I'll try and ride one next year because as awesome the S1000R is, the engine is banzai but characterless. It's the only negative for me.

Yes a remap would be on the cards at some point if I was to push the button.. and an exhaust and de-cat for that ultimate experience..  The engine feel on the R is the thing that will probably lean me towards the MT10 but obviously only riding one will answer that for me. The only thing you can add to an IL4 is noise IMO but the cross plane motor just had something for me..   hhmm  need a job.. 

PipeWerx do a very neat decat and stubby can for the MT10 and for very little money too.