Quote from: Millhouse on October 01, 2013, 10:12:49 PM

Quote from: mc101 on October 01, 2013, 10:11:47 PM

Quote from: Millhouse on October 01, 2013, 10:07:23 PM
Moot point.


But IF they were, he'd still lose to MC101

Not only moot but wrong ;-)

Bettererer???

Took me a while to spot that lol.

Quote from: MOz on October 01, 2013, 09:09:33 PM

Quote from: Alzo on October 01, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
Dump all the electronic aids and ride them on real talent...sorted.

Amen.  Valentino would wipe the floor with the lot of them.....

Agree, bit of a rossy fan myself tbh. I definately think he has got the non-aid riding talent to show em up a bit. Marquez and the likes have been born into aided riding on the big machines and it would definately make for some more interesting races.

If there were no electronic aids...... No crash...... Better racing.........Simples as the mere cats would say

Quote from: Evil636 on October 01, 2013, 10:32:33 PM

Quote from: MOz on October 01, 2013, 09:09:33 PM

Quote from: Alzo on October 01, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
Dump all the electronic aids and ride them on real talent...sorted.

Amen.  Valentino would wipe the floor with the lot of them.....

Agree, bit of a rossy fan myself tbh. I definately think he has got the non-aid riding talent to show em up a bit. Marquez and the likes have been born into aided riding on the big machines and it would definately make for some more interesting races.

Would certainly bring Rossi and the other quick boys closer together but Jorge / Dani and especially Marquez would be caught up and on the pace without eleccy aids in no time at all.

Quote from: Gilby104 on October 02, 2013, 02:09:08 PM

Quote from: Evil636 on October 01, 2013, 10:32:33 PM

Quote from: MOz on October 01, 2013, 09:09:33 PM

Quote from: Alzo on October 01, 2013, 02:54:03 PM
Dump all the electronic aids and ride them on real talent...sorted.

Amen.  Valentino would wipe the floor with the lot of them.....

Agree, bit of a rossy fan myself tbh. I definately think he has got the non-aid riding talent to show em up a bit. Marquez and the likes have been born into aided riding on the big machines and it would definately make for some more interesting races.

Would certainly bring Rossi and the other quick boys closer together but Jorge / Dani and especially Marquez would be caught up and on the pace without eleccy aids in no time at all.

The good part would be for us though...we would know we were actually watching natural ability and not who has the best technicians.

Best thing about Dani's crash was putting to bed the PR bullshit we keep getting from teams that the top guys ride with hardly any Traction Control.  Only honest one is Jorge when he said something like 'I wouldn't ride this bike without it, because the one time I forgot it tried to send me to the moon'.

Quote from: David w on October 08, 2013, 07:20:29 AM
Best thing about Dani's crash was putting to bed the PR bullshit we keep getting from teams that the top guys ride with hardly any Traction Control.  Only honest one is Jorge when he said something like 'I wouldn't ride this bike without it, because the one time I forgot it tried to send me to the moon'.

It's obvious from seeing them live how much some rely on TC, you can hear the bikes TC cutting in at the same point in the same corners constantly. I don't think they necessarily need it though, but because it's there they (or some) use it. Imagine it's the same with slipper clutches

I think you'd be amazed how ingrained the electronics are on these bikes.  I doubt they'd get past the first lap without them.  They certainly wouldn't get to the end of the race because they'd run out of fuel about 3 laps from the end!

But that's what Honda want to concentrate in MotoGP, so that's what we've got.....

Quote from: David w on October 09, 2013, 02:41:29 PM
I think you'd be amazed how ingrained the electronics are on these bikes.  I doubt they'd get past the first lap without them.  They certainly wouldn't get to the end of the race because they'd run out of fuel about 3 laps from the end!

But that's what Honda want to concentrate in MotoGP, so that's what we've got.....

Oh yeah sorry, I don't mean turn the electrics off on these bikes.... but I mean design a bike without them (ala the 500 era?) and these boys would be able to ride them 

I agree.  Give them 24L fuel and restrict the electronics.  They'd gave to make the bikes with useable power rather than an erratic delivery controlled by the computers.

But like I said, Honda don't want that....

bollocks to that.
give em 15 litres. no leccy tronics and 2 races per meeting....