HEL lines - Have they been fitted wrong?

Started by PJ, May 24, 2014, 03:51:07 PM

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Carbon_ZX6R

Quote from: 1-600-matt on May 25, 2014, 11:06:33 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 25, 2014, 08:19:57 PM
out of interest is there actually any advantages/disadvantages with the different line set ups or is it pretty much just cosmetic?

I think in the regs for race series there is a requirement for individual lines to each calliper. But I don't see what difference it makes
ahh I see I was expecting some big advantage or something the 2 lines do look a lot better though
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mc101

Quote from: 1-600-matt on May 25, 2014, 11:06:33 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 25, 2014, 08:19:57 PM
out of interest is there actually any advantages/disadvantages with the different line set ups or is it pretty much just cosmetic?

I think in the regs for race series there is a requirement for individual lines to each calliper. But I don't see what difference it makes
Small detail but ...

The regulations actually require that the line splitter takes place above the lower fork clamp. Virtually all race bike set ups therefore split with a double banjo at the m/c ...
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Carbon_ZX6R

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David W

No idea but clearly a regulation written by someone with no idea whatsoever how a hydraulic brake system works!

Carbon_ZX6R

Quote from: David W on May 26, 2014, 02:59:06 PM
No idea but clearly a regulation written by someone with no idea whatsoever how a hydraulic brake system works!
couldn't agree more
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ash

Despite an attempt to thwart the R6 brake conversion on my B1, I managed to get some discs which aren't actually shagged. I've had a bit of fun and games making some lines up (getting hold of the correct unions) , but the brakes do feel a fair bit sharper with it all on now they are bedded in. I took this pic late last night up on one of the hills near here :)





Carbon_ZX6R

nice photo that ash , could do with a clean though...
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ash

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 26, 2014, 07:07:05 PM
nice photo that ash , could do with a clean though...

I know, I only figured after the event :( ... however that gives me another excuse to do some more ;)

Carbon_ZX6R

Quote from: ash on May 26, 2014, 10:23:21 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on May 26, 2014, 07:07:05 PM
nice photo that ash , could do with a clean though...

I know, I only figured after the event :( ... however that gives me another excuse to do some more ;)
you do not need excuses when you own a b1h!!
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ash

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Quote from: PJ on May 24, 2014, 03:51:07 PM
Something that's been nagging me since I bought the R1 was that the HEL lines the previous owner fitted weren't quite right. He made a ham fisted job of some of the other mods, namely not torquing things up correctly.

But I was adjusting the lever the other day and it reminded me what a ballache I had when I refitted the master cylinder last year, due to the curve at the end of each line they wouldn't go on "straight" at the M/C and I had to put them slightly sideways to each other.

This what I mean :



It's been years since I fitted braided lines but I can't help but think that the 2 shallower curved ends should be at the M/C with the 2 more curved ends at the calipers curving inwards towards the mudguard.

What say you?

(HEL online fitting instructions weren't alot of help)

Thanks


Peej.

I've had a bit of fun and games making new braided lines up. I couldn't get the correct compression banjo fittings on Saturday fromm a bike shop so went for as close as I could. Mine have a crank in them of about 20 degrees from vertical off the side entry on my gold spot calipers. I was feeling quite pleased with myself, but the left hand line is a little shorter than I hope so I went to a line manufacturer in Gloucester called  http://www.hosetechnik.com/  (part of Forge Motorsport) to get some more braided line on tuesday. Now I'm in to these lines for about £30 in the fittings, and another £10 for the lines ... Hosetechnik said they would do a set for £40 with crimped fittings so I feel like a bit of a muggins now for messing around with self assembly ones   :rolleyes:

the one thing the hosetechnik bloke said was don't usea cranked banjo off the caliper on these R6 ones, he felt it was a safety issue which could stress the hose incer fork compression.

I'm going to swap out for the correct ones on saturday and TBH the brakes now feel amazing and very progressive once they have a bit of heat in them :)

Andy M

peej

is you email them with the part number they will send you a copy of the fitting instructions

details here....

http://www.helperformance.com/motorcycle/yamaha/yzf-r1/

Carbon_ZX6R

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ash

Well I've been fucked over yet again...what is it with dishonest people

Tredworth Motorcycles in Gloucester....very dishonest, states they will exchange if they don't line up (which they don't) , and then backtracks when I ask to exchange for the correct ones.

More theiving cunts to add to the list :rolleyes:

Carbon_ZX6R

 you have it in writing that they said they would exchange?
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