HEL lines - Have they been fitted wrong?

[PJ]

Something that's been nagging me since I bought the R1 was that the HEL lines the previous owner fitted weren't quite right. He made a ham fisted job of some of the other mods, namely not torquing things up correctly.

But I was adjusting the lever the other day and it reminded me what a ballache I had when I refitted the master cylinder last year, due to the curve at the end of each line they wouldn't go on "straight" at the M/C and I had to put them slightly sideways to each other.

This what I mean :



It's been years since I fitted braided lines but I can't help but think that the 2 shallower curved ends should be at the M/C with the 2 more curved ends at the calipers curving inwards towards the mudguard.

What say you?

(HEL online fitting instructions weren't alot of help)

Thanks


Peej.

[Carbon_ZX6R]

its been a while since ive fitted them but I agree I think there backwards

[David W]

Looks OK to me.  It's always a bit of a ballache with the double banjo at the top because all the bikes I've seen have a single banjo at the top and a splitter on the bottom yoke.

Last few braided lines I've done, I've fitted a single line to the right caliper, then a double banjo on that with a line looped over the mudguard to the left caliper.  Much neater install and I find it easier to bleed.

[Carbon_ZX6R]

really? all mine that have had twin calipers have had a double banjo at the top

[Gobert]

really? all mine that have had twin calipers have had a double banjo at the top

As OE set up?

[David W]

really? all mine that have had twin calipers have had a double banjo at the top

Maybe I've just been unlucky and all the bikes I've owned in the last 25 years were all built wrong....

[Carbon_ZX6R]

really? all mine that have had twin calipers have had a double banjo at the top

As OE set up?

as far as im aware yes

[Gobert]

really? all mine that have had twin calipers have had a double banjo at the top

Maybe I've just been unlucky and all the bikes I've owned in the last 25 years were all built wrong....

Same here - every bike I've owned as had either a splitter at the bottom yoke or a single line to one caliper and a loop over to the other.

[Carbon_ZX6R]

really? all mine that have had twin calipers have had a double banjo at the top

Maybe I've just been unlucky and all the bikes I've owned in the last 25 years were all built wrong....

Same here - every bike I've owned as had either a splitter at the bottom yoke or a single line to one caliper and a loop over to the other.

I may be wrong but but ive defo had a double banjo with stock lines and it wouldn't really make sence to do that

[WizzBang]

Stock B1 setup is single line to right hand caliper, then loop line over to the left.

[Carbon_ZX6R]

Stock B1 setup is single line to right hand caliper, then loop line over to the left.

I know that that was as it had them on it when I bought it just trying to remember which of my bikes had what had far to many over the years

[the invisible dog]

Think my '10' had the same set-up as the B1 from the factory
but my HEL lines are like yours, PJ
Double bolt at the top and the curves and slight offset bring them together to feed down to the caliper

[1-600-matt]

The Goodridge ones for my gixer were bullshit, I tried every conceivable orientation and nothing worked properly... I can only assume some lines are setup to marry up to brembo mc or something. The k5 originally had a split part way, so had only single banjo bolts. I got a twin line set so had a double banjo at the mc. The b1 had a line over the mudguard originally and I replaced that with a set of hel lines in the same layout, they fitted quite well.

[Carbon_ZX6R]

out of interest is there actually any advantages/disadvantages with the different line set ups or is it pretty much just cosmetic?

[1-600-matt]

out of interest is there actually any advantages/disadvantages with the different line set ups or is it pretty much just cosmetic?

I think in the regs for race series there is a requirement for individual lines to each calliper. But I don't see what difference it makes