Cyclist...................

[Chojin]

causing us to overtake in some dodgy places

No one is forcing you to overtake in dodgy places? Would you overtake a car in a dodgy place? You should be giving the cyclist the same amount of room as you would a car, else you're the one acting dangerously - not the cyclist.

[MOzZereLLa]

Some superb thickie bashing to be had tonight.

Love it.

[Green_Ninja]

causing us to overtake in some dodgy places

No one is forcing you to overtake in dodgy places? Would you overtake a car in a dodgy place? You should be giving the cyclist the same amount of room as you would a car, else you're the one acting dangerously - not the cyclist.
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This is exactly correct. Yes there are idiot cyclists, motorbike riders, car drivers, horse riders etc etc etc  but they all have the right to use the roads whether you like it or not. So as always they onus is on YOU to ride/drive safely and WITH CONSIDERATION for ALL other road users.

[terry950sm]

causing us to overtake in some dodgy places

No one is forcing you to overtake in dodgy places? Would you overtake a car in a dodgy place? You should be giving the cyclist the same amount of room as you would a car, else you're the one acting dangerously - not the cyclist.

Blind bend, brow of hill. 40mph faster (National speed limited road). I dont think you have any other option than overtake them.

[Tiiimmmaaayyyy]

causing us to overtake in some dodgy places

No one is forcing you to overtake in dodgy places? Would you overtake a car in a dodgy place? You should be giving the cyclist the same amount of room as you would a car, else you're the one acting dangerously - not the cyclist.

Blind bend, brow of hill. 40mph faster (National speed limited road). I dont think you have any other option than overtake them.

What about slow down or wait to overtake on a bit of road where you can see what's coming the other way?

[ash]

causing us to overtake in some dodgy places

No one is forcing you to overtake in dodgy places? Would you overtake a car in a dodgy place? You should be giving the cyclist the same amount of room as you would a car, else you're the one acting dangerously - not the cyclist.

Blind bend, brow of hill. 40mph faster (National speed limited road). I dont think you have any other option than overtake them.

Why would you want to put yourself on the other side of the road in any of these circumstances ?. No idea what is coming the other way !

[David W]

Motorcyclists complaining about cyclists and how they use the road for their hobby.

My irony-meter just redlined....

[whoopee]

Motorcyclists complaining about cyclists and how they use the road for their hobby.

My irony-meter just redlined....

A wonderfully intelligent & well observed way to put it David.

I am cyclist (a bit lapsed now I admit), began as a club cyclist at 14yrs old - doing approx. 300 miles/week for roughly 10 years - then family life stopped that.
At 17 became a motorcyclist too - typical weekend hobby rider - been doing that for 29 years too.
....& of course, passed my car test at 21 & done 100's of 1000's of miles in a tin-top too.

I only witter on like an old bore about my road-use history to make the point that I can see a few sides to this debate (never used a horse on the road I admit)

When I was a teenage road cyclist I thought the world was against us all....no respect from anyone....everyone out to kill us.
Then of course I got into motorcycling and saw another side to it - carving along sensibly on the motorbike around b-roads, only to come across cyclists doing 15mph, taking up the whole road just after a blind bend. Hmmmm....no wonder cyclists irritate folk sometimes - I began to think.

As a motorcyclist,...I needn't mention to you lot the moronic things I've seen from car drivers.
As a fairly "brisk" car driver, I've often been held-up by very steady motorcyclists that utterly potter around bends, holding me up, but will they bugger let me ease past safely on the next straight? - oh no......

....& so it goes.

All things considered though - by far my biggest "deviations" (ahem....) from using the Queens highway for how it is intended, is on my motorbikes.
Yes,....the roads are full of PILLOCK cyclists, half-in-coma car drivers, barely in control of the beast horse riders, & as for tractors! don't get me started......but the inescapable truth of it all is, I've come to appreciate......They are all allowed to be there,...& whatever we're riding/driving....we should try to ride/drive with that in mind.

[Nat]

Everyone on every mode of transport is a total Thwaite.  Whichever mode of transport I use - foot, bicycle, bike, car, tank - the cyclists aggravate me most of all.  Even when I was a regular cyclist up in Cambridge, I hated them the most.

Followed by the pedestrian.

Followed by the taxi driver.

Followed by everyone else.

No problem with them using the road, and cycling is a great way to get around which should be encouraged, but they're all a bit arrogant and cavalier with their lives, and it's everyone else's job to keep them safe.

Broad, sweeping generalisation there, but hey...

[Carbon_ZX6R]

just saying...

[MOzZereLLa]

A great reply from Whoppee.

Disappointing trolling from our resident thickie ;-)

[Carbon_ZX6R]

A great reply from Whoppee.

Disappointing trolling from our resident thickie ;-)

just cant be bothered to put the effort in anymore...

[MOzZereLLa]

Never. Give. Up.

[tucola]

Why don't certain car drivers get that they are not entitled to get past people merely because they may want to travel faster than them?

It is incumbent upon the guy behind to find a safe place to pass.

Until there is one, the pass isn't on and you are not in a position to go as fast as you want.

Fucking wait.

And if you can't see a safe pass of a pushbike on a motorbike, you certainly shouldn't be passing!

[Gilby104]

Motorcyclists complaining about cyclists and how they use the road for their hobby.

My irony-meter just redlined....

A wonderfully intelligent & well observed way to put it David.

I am cyclist (a bit lapsed now I admit), began as a club cyclist at 14yrs old - doing approx. 300 miles/week for roughly 10 years - then family life stopped that.
At 17 became a motorcyclist too - typical weekend hobby rider - been doing that for 29 years too.
....& of course, passed my car test at 21 & done 100's of 1000's of miles in a tin-top too.

I only witter on like an old bore about my road-use history to make the point that I can see a few sides to this debate (never used a horse on the road I admit)

When I was a teenage road cyclist I thought the world was against us all....no respect from anyone....everyone out to kill us.
Then of course I got into motorcycling and saw another side to it - carving along sensibly on the motorbike around b-roads, only to come across cyclists doing 15mph, taking up the whole road just after a blind bend. Hmmmm....no wonder cyclists irritate folk sometimes - I began to think.

As a motorcyclist,...I needn't mention to you lot the moronic things I've seen from car drivers.
As a fairly "brisk" car driver, I've often been held-up by very steady motorcyclists that utterly potter around bends, holding me up, but will they bugger let me ease past safely on the next straight? - oh no......

....& so it goes.

All things considered though - by far my biggest "deviations" (ahem....) from using the Queens highway for how it is intended, is on my motorbikes.
Yes,....the roads are full of PILLOCK cyclists, half-in-coma car drivers, barely in control of the beast horse riders, & as for tractors! don't get me started......but the inescapable truth of it all is, I've come to appreciate......They are all allowed to be there,...& whatever we're riding/driving....we should try to ride/drive with that in mind.

I had mainly lost my rag with some of the stupidity I read in this thread. I decided I couldn't even be bothered to respond, let alone read the rest.

This post made me happy I did. Spot on Whoopee.

What I would add is this - you can bang on about people being in your way and 'asking for an accident' as much as you want and see how good being angry makes you. But it will be a different matter when you're explaining to a judge how you decided to stick to the maximum speed limit round a blind bend over a blind summit and collected a cyclist because you were riding too fast to stop for a common and predictable hazard!