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Title: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 25, 2015, 06:27:42 PM
bike im in the process of buying only has the v5c as owners had it couple of weeks  what are the doos and don'ts etc am I setting my self up for a fall I need all the legal bits and bobs?
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!?
Post by: Green_Ninja on March 25, 2015, 06:32:00 PM
you never do anything the normal way do you, ask yourself WHY they only have the v5c ???
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!?
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 25, 2015, 06:36:35 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on March 25, 2015, 06:32:00 PM
you never do anything the normal way do you, ask yourself WHY they only have the v5c ???
he said because he's only had it for 2 weeks is selling it due to not realising how complicated and costly it is to pass your test now and having to get it restricted to meet regs etc and so forth
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!?
Post by: Green_Ninja on March 25, 2015, 07:03:58 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 25, 2015, 06:36:35 PM
Quote from: Green_Ninja on March 25, 2015, 06:32:00 PM
you never do anything the normal way do you, ask yourself WHY they only have the v5c ???
he said because he's only had it for 2 weeks is selling it due to not realising how complicated and costly it is to pass your test now and having to get it restricted to meet regs etc and so forth

so he's waiting for the proper V5 to come back? In that case if you want the bike arrange to buy buy it but only once him has the V5 in his name, it's normally pretty quick to be issued nowadays, in both cases when I have bought a vehicle in the last 12 months (1 car 1 bike) Ihave had the V5 inside 2 weeks. This assumes the seller sent the paperwork off  imediately after the sale.

Does he have a receipt for the bike with the previous sellers address etc, if so you could contact the previous owner to check details etc.


Just seen this  http://www.morebikes.co.uk/new-ktm-finance-options-on-freeride-range/  £99 down and 0% finance - just a thought
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 25, 2015, 07:05:58 PM
I'm not sure are you saying I would have no legal comback id be planning to see idea and get a reciept from him etc he may have other paperwork in not sure , ha the last few bikes ive had the log book arrived in closer to 6
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 07:20:23 AM
come on guys I desperately need more input on this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Dom1 on March 26, 2015, 07:47:15 AM
Why? You have been given the answer, you just don't like the answer.
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 07:51:42 AM
Quote from: Dom1 on March 26, 2015, 07:47:15 AM
Why? You have been given the answer, you just don't like the answer.
it wasn't exactly an answer I was hoping some one would know the legality of it I would be planning to get a copy of his driving licence , and written and signed receipt and hes also got a recept hpi check for it , all the keys etc , ive sold a bike without the v5 before and just forwarded it on but ive never bought like this
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 08:06:05 AM
just spoken to the dvla , and they explained the process and said aslong as it has the new keepers supplement it should be fine , but to make sure I id him and get a receipt,,, I would then have to go to the post office

im going to speak to the guys mum when I pick it up as they wouldn't normally lie for there son to such a degree
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on March 26, 2015, 09:22:17 AM
I'd have a word with the CAB and maybe watchdog too to double check, what does your MP say? Have you spoken to the local press?
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 09:53:19 AM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on March 26, 2015, 09:22:17 AM
I'd have a word with the CAB and maybe watchdog too to double check, what does your MP say? Have you spoken to the local press?
anything that will win him a vote?
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Nat on March 26, 2015, 11:34:55 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 08:06:05 AM
im going to speak to the guys mum when I pick it up as they wouldn't normally lie for there son to such a degree

No, you're right - mothers have never lied about things like murder etc to keep their sons from getting into trouble...
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Coxy on March 26, 2015, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 07:20:23 AM
come on guys I desperately need more input on this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 12:13:40 PM
Quote from: Nat on March 26, 2015, 11:34:55 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 08:06:05 AM
im going to speak to the guys mum when I pick it up as they wouldn't normally lie for there son to such a degree

No, you're right - mothers have never lied about things like murder etc to keep their sons from getting into trouble...
touche... but that's normally after the offence has happened im sure most if not all would prevent it if they wore in the position,,
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 12:15:08 PM
Quote from: Coxy on March 26, 2015, 12:01:01 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 07:20:23 AM
come on guys I desperately need more input on this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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should have been the default! you guys are slipping
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c3/c308d88f9e24a0e87e70925ad19c39c2cae411a95aa5312b9f0e3c671739ccfe.jpg)
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Nat on March 26, 2015, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 12:15:08 PM
should have been the default! you guys are slipping
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c3/c308d88f9e24a0e87e70925ad19c39c2cae411a95aa5312b9f0e3c671739ccfe.jpg)

Agree completely!  Considering getting home insurance with Confused.com so I can get a toy and modify it to look like Johnny 5...
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: Nat on March 26, 2015, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 12:15:08 PM
should have been the default! you guys are slipping
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c3/c308d88f9e24a0e87e70925ad19c39c2cae411a95aa5312b9f0e3c671739ccfe.jpg)

Agree completely!  Considering getting home insurance with Confused.com so I can get a toy and modify it to look like Johnny 5...
:tongue:
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Ninjagirl on March 26, 2015, 05:09:02 PM
Sensible answer - don't touch it with a barge pole until he has the V5.  Also does he have service books etc?

Second question - has the barrel got a screwdriver sticking out of it.  If so, walk away.

Thirdly - you KNOW the risk you're taking if you do.  It's your choice and yours alone to accept that, but it's a silly risk to take really.

HPI check?
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 26, 2015, 05:12:51 PM
Ive got it now hpi is clear , ktm database is clear , I think it may have a new ignition though as both keys apear to be brand new..
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Coxy on March 27, 2015, 12:44:46 PM
So it hasn't got an MOT, it hasn't been run for ages, it needs a new tyre, it has a new ignition barrel, the mileage is different from what you were told, the lad bought it without thinking he needs a licence, its cheaper than all others of a similar age.

Seems legit.


Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 27, 2015, 12:49:01 PM
Quote from: Coxy on March 27, 2015, 12:44:46 PM
So it hasn't got an MOT, it hasn't been run for ages, it needs a new tyre, it has a new ignition barrel, the mileage is different from what you were told, the lad bought it without thinking he needs a licence, its cheaper than all others of a similar age.

Seems legit.

vin comes back clear there's no markers at all on it , all possible checks have been done only actual discrepancy is it comes back as red...... but I don't pay much attention to that as my repsol cbr was listed as yellow.....
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: the invisible dog on March 27, 2015, 01:28:41 PM
 :laughing4:

Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 27, 2015, 12:49:01 PM...all possible checks have been done

Not roadworthy, even if it runs - "check!"
Possibility that it won't run - "check!"
Serious indications of suspect history - "check!"
Wrong colour - "check!"
VIN and engine numbers applied in matching crayon...?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on March 27, 2015, 01:31:23 PM
What's that saying about a fool and his money?
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 27, 2015, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: Tiiimmmaaayyyy on March 27, 2015, 01:31:23 PM
What's that saying about a fool and his money?
well we will see at the mot tomorrow ;)
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Ninjagirl on March 27, 2015, 02:27:41 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 27, 2015, 12:49:01 PM
Quote from: Coxy on March 27, 2015, 12:44:46 PM
So it hasn't got an MOT, it hasn't been run for ages, it needs a new tyre, it has a new ignition barrel, the mileage is different from what you were told, the lad bought it without thinking he needs a licence, its cheaper than all others of a similar age.

Seems legit.

vin comes back clear there's no markers at all on it , all possible checks have been done only actual discrepancy is it comes back as red...... but I don't pay much attention to that as my repsol cbr was listed as yellow.....

walk away.

Whatever you do, don't you dare post a thread in (insert timeframe here) asking what to do as the po po are at your door asking about you handling stolen goods and why you bought a bike without a V5.
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 27, 2015, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: Ninjagirl on March 27, 2015, 02:27:41 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 27, 2015, 12:49:01 PM
Quote from: Coxy on March 27, 2015, 12:44:46 PM
So it hasn't got an MOT, it hasn't been run for ages, it needs a new tyre, it has a new ignition barrel, the mileage is different from what you were told, the lad bought it without thinking he needs a licence, its cheaper than all others of a similar age.

Seems legit.

vin comes back clear there's no markers at all on it , all possible checks have been done only actual discrepancy is it comes back as red...... but I don't pay much attention to that as my repsol cbr was listed as yellow.....

walk away.

Whatever you do, don't you dare post a thread in (insert timeframe here) asking what to do as the po po are at your door asking about you handling stolen goods and why you bought a bike without a V5.
ive already bought it according to the dvla the reg and frame match up and its not reported as stolen
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Dom1 on March 27, 2015, 03:26:06 PM
Its just not the only one with that reg and frame number.....
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 27, 2015, 03:30:41 PM
Quote from: Dom1 on March 27, 2015, 03:26:06 PM
Its just not the only one with that reg and frame number.....
don't start! the thoughts crossed my mind! im hoping there are some honest yet slightly suspicious people in the world , ive managed to put the speedo in mph now a total of 5600miles.....
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Ninjagirl on March 27, 2015, 03:33:27 PM


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Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 27, 2015, 03:34:19 PM
Quote from: Ninjagirl on March 27, 2015, 03:33:27 PM


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chances are it will be legit but there's possibly some hidden mechanical problem...
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Jonesy on March 28, 2015, 07:52:10 AM
seriously.... Are you some sort of clown?

Run, run away as fast as you can.

Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: terry950sm on March 28, 2015, 09:58:17 AM
I love this place  :azn:
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 28, 2015, 09:59:17 AM
Quote from: terry950sm on March 28, 2015, 09:58:17 AM
I love this place  :azn:
I was waiting for you to weigh in terry
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: terry950sm on March 28, 2015, 10:42:42 AM
Your money, buy whatever you want with it.
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 28, 2015, 02:26:55 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on March 28, 2015, 10:42:42 AM
Your money, buy whatever you want with it.
Was more worried about buying a bike with no mot as apposed to just the new keeper sup, and as it would happen good reason
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Ninjagirl on March 30, 2015, 01:43:44 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 28, 2015, 02:26:55 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on March 28, 2015, 10:42:42 AM
Your money, buy whatever you want with it.
Was more worried about buying a bike with no mot as apposed to just the new keeper sup, and as it would happen good reason

I'm taking a guess at a big fat fail?
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 30, 2015, 01:55:09 PM
Quote from: Ninjagirl on March 30, 2015, 01:43:44 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on March 28, 2015, 02:26:55 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on March 28, 2015, 10:42:42 AM
Your money, buy whatever you want with it.
Was more worried about buying a bike with no mot as apposed to just the new keeper sup, and as it would happen good reason

I'm taking a guess at a big fat fail?
oh yeah most is minor and free to fix but what I wasn't counting on was the headrace bearings being shot , so im having to do them as im not paying a garage £250 for the privilege bar the tyre ,which I knew about the rest is basically tighten things up and replace missing bolt , fit reflector and legal plate etc
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: LewisBeGoog on March 31, 2015, 12:52:42 PM
I missed this entire thread...however reading it has made me smile...and I just noticed another thread further up...

Toddles off to read that for some laughs too....  :grin:
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on March 31, 2015, 01:11:28 PM
Quote from: LewisBeGoog on March 31, 2015, 12:52:42 PM
I missed this entire thread...however reading it has made me smile...and I just noticed another thread further up...

Toddles off to read that for some laughs too....  :grin:
:cool:
Title: Re: buying a bike with just the V5C?!?!?!? URGENT!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on April 16, 2015, 02:33:00 PM
just got a letter  from the dvla thanking me for my application and that it should be complete on the 25th and I should expect the log book up to 5 days after this date   :)