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Maintenance & Repair => Mechanical => Topic started by: 1-600-matt on June 01, 2015, 08:59:32 PM

Title: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: 1-600-matt on June 01, 2015, 08:59:32 PM
So I changed from stock pads to brembo sc pads in the stock b1 calipers. A set is £107 and these days I'm getting 7 or 8 days from a set. They are awesome, but it's a bit pricey.

Are there any alternative pads that are as good as the brembo?
Or are there any callipers that are an easy swap that take 4 pads rather than 8!?

Any thoughts appreciated.
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 01, 2015, 09:20:50 PM
The stock calipers take 8!!! That's for both the front ones not each right?
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: Millhouse on June 01, 2015, 09:40:11 PM
SBS dual carbons, saves about 30 quid and they're epic!
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: m6rk on June 01, 2015, 10:14:25 PM
or performance friction get my vote.. lasted ages..
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: Farmer Giles on June 02, 2015, 10:08:39 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on June 01, 2015, 09:20:50 PM
The stock calipers take 8!!! That's for both the front ones not each right?

yeah.. 4 pads per caliper..
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 02, 2015, 10:31:50 AM
Quote from: Farmer Giles on June 02, 2015, 10:08:39 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on June 01, 2015, 09:20:50 PM
The stock calipers take 8!!! That's for both the front ones not each right?

yeah.. 4 pads per caliper..
Is was about to say I dont remember having that many pads ,

Op, plenty of calipers you can fit on there with little effort
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 10:37:13 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on June 02, 2015, 10:31:50 AM
Quote from: Farmer Giles on June 02, 2015, 10:08:39 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on June 01, 2015, 09:20:50 PM
The stock calipers take 8!!! That's for both the front ones not each right?

yeah.. 4 pads per caliper..
Is was about to say I dont remember having that many pads ,

Op, plenty of calipers you can fit on there with little effort

definitely 4 pads per calliper... Each pot has its own pad rather than one pad per pair of pots

such as??
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 01, 2015, 09:40:11 PM
SBS dual carbons, saves about 30 quid and they're epic!

Hmmm.. rising rate pad.  I think less experienced riders would be better off with a constant rate pad or a low rising rate pad per the following:

SBS Dual Sinter, Brembo Z04, Performance Friction 99 or 13 ... alas if you want a track orientated pad you have to spend the mullah I'm afraid.  Just remember they are the most powerful feature on the bike and th eone most likely to keep you out of the fence ;-)




Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: Carbon_ZX6R on June 02, 2015, 11:20:38 AM
Quote from: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 10:37:13 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on June 02, 2015, 10:31:50 AM
Quote from: Farmer Giles on June 02, 2015, 10:08:39 AM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on June 01, 2015, 09:20:50 PM
The stock calipers take 8!!! That's for both the front ones not each right?

yeah.. 4 pads per caliper..
Is was about to say I dont remember having that many pads ,

Op, plenty of calipers you can fit on there with little effort

definitely 4 pads per calliper... Each pot has its own pad rather than one pad per pair of pots

such as??

If I remember right the 2008 zx6rs fit with minimal effort , early r6 monoblocs etc , various brembos , spaces will be needed for most but quite  a few on here have done brake conversions and there was guides not sure I there in archives ? Ash get in here and tell of your brake exploits!
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 01, 2015, 09:40:11 PM
SBS dual carbons, saves about 30 quid and they're epic!

Hmmm.. rising rate pad.  I think less experienced riders would be better off with a constant rate pad or a low rising rate pad per the following:

SBS Dual Sinter, Brembo Z04, Performance Friction 99 or 13 ... alas if you want a track orientated pad you have to spend the mullah I'm afraid.  Just remember they are the most powerful feature on the bike and th eone most likely to keep you out of the fence ;-)

no doubt, hence rebuilt callipers with new seals, rebuilt master cylinder with new internals, brembo sc pads
but at £107 every few track days if I am just paying for the brembo brand and there is a cheaper alternative that works as well I am willing to change. Good point on rising rate pads though, constant rate would be nicer for the odd wet day. Likewise if I can get an alternative model calliper for a reasonable price and it immediatelydrops pad prices by £30 I can stick with brembo.
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: Millhouse on June 02, 2015, 12:16:10 PM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 01, 2015, 09:40:11 PM
SBS dual carbons, saves about 30 quid and they're epic!

Hmmm.. rising rate pad.  I think less experienced riders would be better off with a constant rate pad or a low rising rate pad per the following:

SBS Dual Sinter, Brembo Z04, Performance Friction 99 or 13 ... alas if you want a track orientated pad you have to spend the mullah I'm afraid.  Just remember they are the most powerful feature on the bike and th eone most likely to keep you out of the fence ;-)






point taken.

but if a clumsy fucknuckle, such as i am, can handle them i'm pretty sure Matt will be a-ok!!

:)
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 01, 2015, 09:40:11 PM
SBS dual carbons, saves about 30 quid and they're epic!

Hmmm.. rising rate pad.  I think less experienced riders would be better off with a constant rate pad or a low rising rate pad per the following:

SBS Dual Sinter, Brembo Z04, Performance Friction 99 or 13 ... alas if you want a track orientated pad you have to spend the mullah I'm afraid.  Just remember they are the most powerful feature on the bike and th eone most likely to keep you out of the fence ;-)

no doubt, hence rebuilt callipers with new seals, rebuilt master cylinder with new internals, brembo sc pads
but at £107 every few track days if I am just paying for the brembo brand and there is a cheaper alternative that works as well I am willing to change. Good point on rising rate pads though, constant rate would be nicer for the odd wet day. Likewise if I can get an alternative model calliper for a reasonable price and it immediatelydrops pad prices by £30 I can stick with brembo.

So if I read this right, your looking at all this change and unknown to save £30 every 7-8 days ?

Could be worse you could do a £200 set of Z04's in a single day ;-)
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 03:18:24 PM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 01, 2015, 09:40:11 PM
SBS dual carbons, saves about 30 quid and they're epic!

Hmmm.. rising rate pad.  I think less experienced riders would be better off with a constant rate pad or a low rising rate pad per the following:

SBS Dual Sinter, Brembo Z04, Performance Friction 99 or 13 ... alas if you want a track orientated pad you have to spend the mullah I'm afraid.  Just remember they are the most powerful feature on the bike and th eone most likely to keep you out of the fence ;-)

no doubt, hence rebuilt callipers with new seals, rebuilt master cylinder with new internals, brembo sc pads
but at £107 every few track days if I am just paying for the brembo brand and there is a cheaper alternative that works as well I am willing to change. Good point on rising rate pads though, constant rate would be nicer for the odd wet day. Likewise if I can get an alternative model calliper for a reasonable price and it immediatelydrops pad prices by £30 I can stick with brembo.

So if I read this right, your looking at all this change and unknown to save £30 every 7-8 days ?

Could be worse you could do a £200 set of Z04's in a single day ;-)

no, I'm trying to avoid the unknown by asking around for known alternatives and previous experience before doing anything.

Yes, thankfully I'm relatively shit so costs aren't too bad, but it's not getting any cheaper
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 03:18:24 PM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 01, 2015, 09:40:11 PM
SBS dual carbons, saves about 30 quid and they're epic!

Hmmm.. rising rate pad.  I think less experienced riders would be better off with a constant rate pad or a low rising rate pad per the following:

SBS Dual Sinter, Brembo Z04, Performance Friction 99 or 13 ... alas if you want a track orientated pad you have to spend the mullah I'm afraid.  Just remember they are the most powerful feature on the bike and th eone most likely to keep you out of the fence ;-)

no doubt, hence rebuilt callipers with new seals, rebuilt master cylinder with new internals, brembo sc pads
but at £107 every few track days if I am just paying for the brembo brand and there is a cheaper alternative that works as well I am willing to change. Good point on rising rate pads though, constant rate would be nicer for the odd wet day. Likewise if I can get an alternative model calliper for a reasonable price and it immediatelydrops pad prices by £30 I can stick with brembo.

So if I read this right, your looking at all this change and unknown to save £30 every 7-8 days ?

Could be worse you could do a £200 set of Z04's in a single day ;-)

no, I'm trying to avoid the unknown by asking around for known alternatives and previous experience before doing anything.

Yes, thankfully I'm relatively shit so costs aren't too bad, but it's not getting any cheaper

If you like what you've got and it works why change it? ??  I'm confused - it maybe my age ;-)
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 06:30:05 PM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 03:18:24 PM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 01, 2015, 09:40:11 PM
SBS dual carbons, saves about 30 quid and they're epic!

Hmmm.. rising rate pad.  I think less experienced riders would be better off with a constant rate pad or a low rising rate pad per the following:

SBS Dual Sinter, Brembo Z04, Performance Friction 99 or 13 ... alas if you want a track orientated pad you have to spend the mullah I'm afraid.  Just remember they are the most powerful feature on the bike and th eone most likely to keep you out of the fence ;-)

no doubt, hence rebuilt callipers with new seals, rebuilt master cylinder with new internals, brembo sc pads
but at £107 every few track days if I am just paying for the brembo brand and there is a cheaper alternative that works as well I am willing to change. Good point on rising rate pads though, constant rate would be nicer for the odd wet day. Likewise if I can get an alternative model calliper for a reasonable price and it immediatelydrops pad prices by £30 I can stick with brembo.

So if I read this right, your looking at all this change and unknown to save £30 every 7-8 days ?

Could be worse you could do a £200 set of Z04's in a single day ;-)

no, I'm trying to avoid the unknown by asking around for known alternatives and previous experience before doing anything.

Yes, thankfully I'm relatively shit so costs aren't too bad, but it's not getting any cheaper

If you like what you've got and it works why change it? ??  I'm confused - it maybe my age ;-)

I like everything apart from the price. I'm just exploring options
Title: Re: B1 brakes (the bank)
Post by: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 06:35:20 PM
Quote from: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 06:30:05 PM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 03:18:24 PM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: 1-600-matt on June 02, 2015, 11:23:59 AM
Quote from: mc101 on June 02, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
Quote from: Millhouse on June 01, 2015, 09:40:11 PM
SBS dual carbons, saves about 30 quid and they're epic!

Hmmm.. rising rate pad.  I think less experienced riders would be better off with a constant rate pad or a low rising rate pad per the following:

SBS Dual Sinter, Brembo Z04, Performance Friction 99 or 13 ... alas if you want a track orientated pad you have to spend the mullah I'm afraid.  Just remember they are the most powerful feature on the bike and th eone most likely to keep you out of the fence ;-)

no doubt, hence rebuilt callipers with new seals, rebuilt master cylinder with new internals, brembo sc pads
but at £107 every few track days if I am just paying for the brembo brand and there is a cheaper alternative that works as well I am willing to change. Good point on rising rate pads though, constant rate would be nicer for the odd wet day. Likewise if I can get an alternative model calliper for a reasonable price and it immediatelydrops pad prices by £30 I can stick with brembo.

So if I read this right, your looking at all this change and unknown to save £30 every 7-8 days ?

Could be worse you could do a £200 set of Z04's in a single day ;-)

no, I'm trying to avoid the unknown by asking around for known alternatives and previous experience before doing anything.

Yes, thankfully I'm relatively shit so costs aren't too bad, but it's not getting any cheaper

If you like what you've got and it works why change it? ??  I'm confused - it maybe my age ;-)

I like everything apart from the price. I'm just exploring options

You my friend have no ROI on this issue lol....