Well....are they...at the NECC recently I glanced at the Sportsbikes...but that was it...now I accept my age and taste has an influence...but I also think part of it you can get some great performance from other classes. The BMW XR for example is as near as dammit Sportsbike quick...so it's not as if we're being short-changed in performance.
Also the Cafe racer type style is growing at a rate. I definitely see the writing on the wall for the Sportsbike scene.
Thoughts.
I think its a demographic thing, maybe coupled with roads just being a shit place to be on a 200hp missile. I can't remember the last sportsbike that excited me to the point where I was doing sums to work out if I could afford one.
I rode an BMW S1000RR and it was torture...I cannot believe I suffered that position for so long...so for me it's no longer up for consideration. I think the Adventure class and the Naked class have brought a buzz back to Motorcycling.
I keep saying it, but my next bike will be a Victory Judge or Gunner. Million miles away from sportsbikes.
Had to Google it...yeah looks like a fun lump of bike.
I had a couple of hours on an S1000RR while my GS was being serviced.
Thought it was amazingly easy and comfortable for a sportsbike, actually.
Much more comfortable than a B1H.
Could probably commute on it, although the consumables would be expensive.
Bloody, ridiculously, fast though.
Still quite fancy one before I plod off into my dotage.
I ran away from sportbikes years ago. Supermoto style bikes seem to fit the bumpy roads I ride. Long suspension travel and superb brakes.
Just cant bend my legs far enough to get my feet on the footrest, when riding a sportsbike.
There is nothing more enjoyable than nailing a 200bhp superbike on a twisty road, riding a 60bhp single. :azn:
I take your point, but no I don't think they will become extinct.
If I wasn't riding 80 miles each day Id still Probably be on a Sportsbike. But The Tigers, KTM SMT, GS, BMW XR etc... are all so much closer in terms of performance and the quality of suspension, brakes etc... That its not so clear cut anymore.
Quote from: terry950sm on December 13, 2016, 11:45:20 AM
There is nothing more enjoyable than nailing a 200bhp superbike on a twisty road, riding a 60bhp single. :azn:
There's nothing more annoying than getting your corner speed decimated and your lines ruined by the knob who decides to take his supermoto on a trackday either.
;)
people will still want to ride the sports bikes they see their idols riding, i don't see that ever changing
but it is very much an age thing, the mind is willing... but the body is less so
I must admit I am amazed that how I ever did the miles I did on my sports bikes now I have the smt
its a bit of a revelation, fun, performance practicality and comfort who'd have thunk it!
that said i still love my panigale and have no intention of parting with it.. just yet
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on December 13, 2016, 01:32:31 PM
Quote from: terry950sm on December 13, 2016, 11:45:20 AM
There is nothing more enjoyable than nailing a 200bhp superbike on a twisty road, riding a 60bhp single. :azn:
There's nothing more annoying than getting your corner speed decimated and your lines ruined by the knob who decides to take his supermoto on a trackday either.
;)
I know the feeling Moz. Those pesky sportbikes getting in the way on the twisties. ;)
The price of bikes nowadays is shocking. The younger generation may want to buy sportsbikes but can't afford new ones.Some can, some get HP or buy an older bike. The older generations have done the sportsbikes , (some still buy them) and have moved on to nakeds or explorer or cafe racer types. There has always been choices of bikes it's just at different times in our life we like different things. I think we would all like a few different types of bikes in the garage to choose from, depending on the mood and the journey.
I don't know that bikes are that shockingly expensive now compared with what they used to be.
I think I paid about £7k for my B1H new in 2003.
Inflation adjusted to today, that's about £10k.
(http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/education/Pages/resources/inflationtools/calculator/index1.aspx (http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/education/Pages/resources/inflationtools/calculator/index1.aspx))
2016 R6 list was £9.8k
Pretty sure I paid 6k for my B1. 2016 one is 9k. I paid 5.5k for my ZRX in 2006. Just bought a Z1000sx at 9.5K. I wish my wages had went up at the same rate.
I paid £4994 (brand spanking) for my P7F in 2007! They almost fetch that now!
Sure I heard rumours of a naked (bikes) race series. S1000r, Tuono, Z1000 etc. Now that would be great to watch. Flat bars,sit up and beg old style racing. :moto: :moto: :moto: Would be good to compare the times to the superbikes or superstocks.
S1000r will dominate. Fact.
Quote from: Alzo on December 14, 2016, 10:38:58 AM
S1000r will dominate. Fact.
Think the Aprilia would give it a good race. And if there is was rules that the bike had to start off the button after the race the BMW would struggle. :rofl:
Quote from: Alzo on December 14, 2016, 10:38:58 AM
S1000r will dominate. Fact.
The Aprilia would cane it - if it starts.....
The Aprilia wouldn't beat it...nothing would...fact...fact...FACT.
Cant find the MTFU button .... its like gods waiting room in here ....
Thank you.
Quote from: mc101 on December 15, 2016, 04:17:14 PM
Cant find the MTFU button .... its like gods waiting room in here ....
What are you racing in 17 then MC. Not heard any news yet?
I don't suppose they're becoming extinct because people are still buying them...... more like they're becoming irrelevant.
Gone are the days of riding up the Cat & Fiddle on something 600cc plus and feeling like you kicked its head in........ must be a thoroughly underwhelming experience scaring the shit out of yourself and knowing you just tickled the throttle the whole way.
I wouldn't know though, the newest sportsbike I've ridden on the road was a K1 Gixer thou..... and I didn't keep it long for that exact reason.....
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on December 15, 2016, 04:59:20 PM
Quote from: mc101 on December 15, 2016, 04:17:14 PM
Cant find the MTFU button .... its like gods waiting room in here ....
What are you racing in 17 then MC. Not heard any news yet?
2017 ZX10RR :-)
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on December 15, 2016, 05:33:48 PM
I don't suppose they're becoming extinct because people are still buying them...... more like they're becoming irrelevant.
Gone are the days of riding up the Cat & Fiddle on something 600cc plus and feeling like you kicked its head in........ must be a thoroughly underwhelming experience scaring the shit out of yourself and knowing you just tickled the throttle the whole way.
I wouldn't know though, the newest sportsbike I've ridden on the road was a K1 Gixer thou..... and I didn't keep it long for that exact reason.....
WTF ... you lot need some red meat in your diets instead of walnut loaf .. gay-ist post I've seen in years.
So looking forward to the "whats the solution for my race leathers chafing me my mum says I should blah...." post.
Thank you.
PS. I do ride a 160bhp 1000cc motorcycle...so not completely gay...and surely some points for even posting a subject/question I felt worthy of debate.
I'd still be riding one if it wasn't for the broken bones and titanium additions, still miss my B1 like you wouldn't believe.. id love a zx10r but yes it is way too much for the road..
Quote from: mc101 on December 15, 2016, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on December 15, 2016, 05:33:48 PM
I don't suppose they're becoming extinct because people are still buying them...... more like they're becoming irrelevant.
Gone are the days of riding up the Cat & Fiddle on something 600cc plus and feeling like you kicked its head in........ must be a thoroughly underwhelming experience scaring the shit out of yourself and knowing you just tickled the throttle the whole way.
I wouldn't know though, the newest sportsbike I've ridden on the road was a K1 Gixer thou..... and I didn't keep it long for that exact reason.....
WTF ... you lot need some red meat in your diets instead of walnut loaf .. gay-ist post I've seen in years.
So looking forward to the "whats the solution for my race leathers chafing me my mum says I should blah...." post.
Best to ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow. ;)
Not becoming extinct, we're just all getting older :grin: When i first came on this site most people weren't married, young (well some of us were), no kids and more disposable income than they knew what to do with (well that's how it felt). I'd never had been seen dead on a 'sit up bike' wearing textiles, anything waterproof or heated, never wear a clear visor, or anything remotely uncool - I've now become everything i put my nose up :cool: :cool: :cool:
I suspect if you went to a 'cooler forum' (I bet forums are now decidedly uncool), the 'younger' generation are all be riding R1s, Fireblades and Gixers - not a naked, tourer or a set of heated grips in site :moto:
Quote from: mc101 on December 15, 2016, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on December 15, 2016, 05:33:48 PM
I don't suppose they're becoming extinct because people are still buying them...... more like they're becoming irrelevant.
Gone are the days of riding up the Cat & Fiddle on something 600cc plus and feeling like you kicked its head in........ must be a thoroughly underwhelming experience scaring the shit out of yourself and knowing you just tickled the throttle the whole way.
I wouldn't know though, the newest sportsbike I've ridden on the road was a K1 Gixer thou..... and I didn't keep it long for that exact reason.....
WTF ... you lot need some red meat in your diets instead of walnut loaf .. gay-ist post I've seen in years.
So looking forward to the "whats the solution for my race leathers chafing me my mum says I should blah...." post.
Just saying it as I see it kidder......
I could large it and tell you the story of when I got sideswiped by a car on my EXUP thou (whilst racing a Ferrari) and woke up in the ambulance with my knee bent completely the wrong way and my toes were in front of my face...... or the time I crashed on the cat & fiddle whilst racing some geezer and completely lost the ball of my foot...... I've got loads, and the scars to prove!!
I think I'll just go and suck some cocks instead though.
All said and done...I love being an old cocksucker...I can still make a motorcycle go...so get it right up you young hetros.
(Assuming there are any here)
Quote from: Alzo on December 16, 2016, 02:57:09 PM
All said and done...I love being an old cocksucker...I can still make a motorcycle go...so get it right up you young hetros.
(Assuming there are any here)
Prob all on Bebo - is that even spelt right??
Is he a singer?
Stands up when she plays the piano.
There is something else no one has mentioned....
There is nothing better that riding past someone on a Superbike on a "sit up and beg bike" like they are standing still. Plus the modern Adventure sports and naked stuff is fast enough and handles well enough to do exactly that.
At the end of the day its still about the person riding it ;-)
The BMW S1000R is a Sportsbike with straight bars.
I've just bought a Honda Pan European 1100. The baffles have been removed though, so that's ok..
Quote from: terry950sm on December 13, 2016, 11:45:20 AM
I ran away from sportbikes years ago. Supermoto style bikes seem to fit the bumpy roads I ride. Long suspension travel and superb brakes.
Just cant bend my legs far enough to get my feet on the footrest, when riding a sportsbike.
There is nothing more enjoyable than nailing a 200bhp superbike on a twisty road, riding a 60bhp single. :azn:
Lewis :moto:
It's not a race, lads!
Ride what you like.
I couldn't care less if some bellend on a 125 dirt bike wants to "pass me like i'm standing still" and get a hard-on about it.
I wasn't trying, mate.
It's a Panigale.
I owe to my public to provide the occasional opportunity for them to marvel at how fucking cool I look for a nice long while.
Quote from: tucola on December 24, 2016, 09:16:35 AM
It's not a race, lads!
Ride what you like.
I couldn't care less if some bellend on a 125 dirt bike wants to "pass me like i'm standing still" and get a hard-on about it.
I wasn't trying, mate.
It's a Panigale.
I owe to my public to provide the occasional opportunity for them to marvel at how fucking cool I look for a nice long while.
Typical Ducati owner. ;)
;)
I must remember that for the next time someone hands me my arse.... :rofl: :moto:
Ya welcome.
:grin:
:moto: