New Akky system and she looks fine....
Looks like 2014 will be naked again...
http://www.1290superduker.com
:evil:
According to my Cousin they are coming out later this year or very early next year, which is a pain for them as not many people will want to get a bike like this in the winter.
He has ordered two, one of which is sold already (deposit was left when they announced it), no prices known as yet.
I'm betting no cheaper than £12k.
Could be as much as £13,995.
Look amazing.
Does look stunning
Looks like my 10 year old nephew has sketched it
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Smileys/More%20Smileys/icon_puke_r_zps81615584.gif)
shame all the road legal shit uglies it up
but with a decent can, tail tidy and some work it could look a bit more like the original prototype they displayed
(http://blog.ktm.com/wp-content/gallery/1290-super-duke/1290superduke-prototype-02.jpg)
which i think is awesome, the only nekid i would consider
That makes think bad thoughts.
Can I have a black one?
Apparently yes. Black will be a colour option.
My KTM dealer says he's only taken two deposits thus far but the 2014 UK batch will be less than 100 bikes.
Quote from: Neil on October 04, 2013, 05:18:55 PM
Looks like my 10 year old nephew has sketched it
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/WizzBang00/Smileys/More%20Smileys/icon_puke_r_zps81615584.gif)
+1 not a fan =/
Quote from: komp on October 04, 2013, 05:25:52 PM
shame all the road legal shit uglies it up
but with a decent can, tail tidy and some work it could look a bit more like the original prototype they displayed
(http://blog.ktm.com/wp-content/gallery/1290-super-duke/1290superduke-prototype-02.jpg)
which i think is awesome, the only nekid i would consider
Looks like they failed to complete the photoshop colour on the wheels.
Looks great, but £14k is bordering on insanity.
No doubt a lot of fun but, aesthetically, I don't like it.
Quote from: David w on October 08, 2013, 07:15:14 AM
Looks great, but £14k is bordering on insanity.
I'm not sure it is. Brand new engine dev costs, top of the range suspension and brakes, full electronic aids suite, lightweight wheels etc etc.
I think you need to get real DeeDub. Bikes, along with everything else are just getting more expensive. You wouldn't expect to pay Mk 1 Escort money for a new Focus these days so why the same feeling towards the bikes?? The new Superduke R is as cutting edge as it gets.
I think it looks great...
Quote from: Dom1 on October 04, 2013, 05:29:42 PM
That makes think bad thoughts.
Can I have a black one?
(http://www.1290superduker.com/cms/fileadmin/user_upload/Specials/Special__3/360/img_0_0_90.jpg)
Ask and you shall receive
Quote from: MOz on October 08, 2013, 01:22:52 PM
Quote from: Dom1 on October 04, 2013, 05:29:42 PM
That makes think bad thoughts.
Can I have a black one?
(http://www.1290superduker.com/cms/fileadmin/user_upload/Specials/Special__3/360/img_0_0_90.jpg)
Ask and you shall receive
That looks even better :azn:
Very keenly awaiting the official price for her now.
Potential deposit to be put down.....
Quote from: MOz on October 08, 2013, 02:44:08 PM
Very keenly awaiting the official price for her now.
Potential deposit to be put down.....
LOL not really surprised - giz a go if you get it :azn:
All it needs is a tail tidy and a new can.
There are rumours circulating on the KTM forums that the twin Akky on the prototype "Beast" will be available as a power part - £2500 :shocked:
I think it will look better in the flesh...Black certainly better looking...I'll bag a Test Ride when they are out.
QuoteI think it will look better in the flesh...Black certainly better looking...
I don't disagree with either of those statements...
looks so fat it's sagging in the middle...
Quote from: MOz on October 08, 2013, 07:48:59 AM
Quote from: David w on October 08, 2013, 07:15:14 AM
Looks great, but £14k is bordering on insanity.
I'm not sure it is. Brand new engine dev costs, top of the range suspension and brakes, full electronic aids suite, lightweight wheels etc etc.
I think you need to get real DeeDub. Bikes, along with everything else are just getting more expensive. You wouldn't expect to pay Mk 1 Escort money for a new Focus these days so why the same feeling towards the bikes?? The new Superduke R is as cutting edge as it gets.
I think it looks great...
It's not about getting real, it's about waking up and realising bikes are getting faster and more sophisticated while our roads get slower and more heavily policed. Is this really going to be £8000 'better' than a three year old Superduke or is it just akin to a public ego-wank? :lol:
All fair points but I can't understand your link between bikes getting more expensive and heavily policed roads??? It reads like you think bikers are being ripped off with the costs of brand new bikes. Are you suggesting if tech and power mirrored the roads they will be ridden on and were significantly de-tuned (high performance not required cos you can't use it) then new bikes would be cheaper to buy?? You are getting old and boring mate ;)
There is certain irony that Sportsbike have circa 190 bhp with expensive Tech to stop it killing the rider...so from that there is a case for less is more power wise...I rode with a group with S1000rr's...and my 133bhp Speed Triple held its own up to the point where your liberty would be in question.
Quote from: Alzo on October 09, 2013, 07:08:49 AM
There is certain irony that Sportsbike have circa 190 bhp with expensive Tech to stop it killing the rider...so from that there is a case for less is more power wise...I rode with a group with S1000rr's...and my 133bhp Speed Triple held its own up to the point where your liberty would be in question.
and the Street wasn't half doing bad with 'just' 105BHP either ;) and I enjoyed every minute of it which is what biking is all about :azn:
Quote from: MOz on October 08, 2013, 08:37:12 PM
All fair points but I can't understand your link between bikes getting more expensive and heavily policed roads??? It reads like you think bikers are being ripped off with the costs of brand new bikes. Are you suggesting if tech and power mirrored the roads they will be ridden on and were significantly de-tuned (high performance not required cos you can't use it) then new bikes would be cheaper to buy?? You are getting old and boring mate ;)
What I meant is I just don't see the point of spunking £14K on a bike that is a technical performance marvel, when a bike that you can buy for less than half the price will do everything you can get away with doing on a British road these days. Cost versus reward ratio seems to be getting bigger and bigger!
As for being ripped off, it wouldn't surprise me if the the UK list price isn't substantially higher than elsewhere. Remember the mid-90's Grey Import days?
It is £14k apparently............
That changes things :(
Quote from: MOz on October 09, 2013, 02:56:21 PM
It is £14k apparently............
That changes things :(
Give me strength! - really?
That does make a tidy 2nd hand one look good value doesnt it.
Not surprised that you baulked at that Moz - I think many more will agree with you.
Quote from: whoopee on October 09, 2013, 03:28:22 PM
Quote from: MOz on October 09, 2013, 02:56:21 PM
It is £14k apparently............
That changes things :(
Give me strength! - really?
That does make a tidy 2nd hand one look good value doesnt it.
Not surprised that you baulked at that Moz - I think many more will agree with you.
I see your point, accept the irony but will say that, being expensive for what it is and not being able to afford it are two totally different things. :rofl:
Quote from: Green_Ninja on October 09, 2013, 07:57:24 AM
Quote from: Alzo on October 09, 2013, 07:08:49 AM
There is certain irony that Sportsbike have circa 190 bhp with expensive Tech to stop it killing the rider...so from that there is a case for less is more power wise...I rode with a group with S1000rr's...and my 133bhp Speed Triple held its own up to the point where your liberty would be in question.
and the Street wasn't half doing bad with 'just' 105BHP either ;) and I enjoyed every minute of it which is what biking is all about :azn:
It did go rather well. :-)
14k..... let the crashing begin !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WW36lv46-hU
Ouch...so much for the Electronics package.
Quote from: Alzo on January 14, 2014, 08:00:02 PM
Ouch...so much for the Electronics package.
It was switched off. You can do that on KTMs.
That's what happens when you have shit loads of torque, a flappy right wrist in first gear and the TC turned off!!
Part of me got some satisfaction after the riders Billy Big-Bollocks 'check me out' take-off....
I love these new Superdukes but I still think you'd need your bumps feeling for spunking £14k on one.
On another note it does depress me that we've now got a generation of bike on the road that needs electronics to stop the thing turning itself inside out.
I know 14k's a lot but jap thous were over £9k rrp 17 years ago...........
I struggle to believe any bike is worth that much, no matter how much electronic guff is on it.
I'll pick mine up in 12 months time for £10k :evil:
Quote from: Gobert on January 14, 2014, 09:27:58 PM
I know 14k's a lot but jap thous were over £9k rrp 17 years ago...........
You're right, but that was down to rampant profiteering by the importers and the grey market put a lid on it. Just seems an insane amount of money, and an incredible hike in price compared to the previous model.
Quote from: David W on January 15, 2014, 06:42:58 AM
Quote from: Gobert on January 14, 2014, 09:27:58 PM
I know 14k's a lot but jap thous were over £9k rrp 17 years ago...........
You're right, but that was down to rampant profiteering by the importers and the grey market put a lid on it. Just seems an insane amount of money, and an incredible hike in price compared to the previous model.
Don't like new bike prices, don't get me wrong Deedub, but the price of the new SDR, compared to the old one is a bargain when you consider the fact its an entire new motobike. Their electronics package is the best available and their lauding new technology that other manufacturers aren't (look at the new stability ABS on the 2014 1190 Adventure). i'd suggest the SDR is a bargain compared to a new Blade which is almost as much money for a bike thats been the same for the last 7 years give or take the odd style change and a bottom of the range ABS fitment.
I think you need to accept that, over time, all stuff gets more expensive and stop being such a miserable old bastard. ;)
still on my list
will prob be next year
maybe ill take off your hands moz once your bored of it ;)
Quote from: MOz on January 15, 2014, 08:10:01 AM
Quote from: David W on January 15, 2014, 06:42:58 AM
Quote from: Gobert on January 14, 2014, 09:27:58 PM
I know 14k's a lot but jap thous were over £9k rrp 17 years ago...........
You're right, but that was down to rampant profiteering by the importers and the grey market put a lid on it. Just seems an insane amount of money, and an incredible hike in price compared to the previous model.
Don't like new bike prices, don't get me wrong Deedub, but the price of the new SDR, compared to the old one is a bargain when you consider the fact its an entire new motobike. Their electronics package is the best available and their lauding new technology that other manufacturers aren't (look at the new stability ABS on the 2014 1190 Adventure). i'd suggest the SDR is a bargain compared to a new Blade which is almost as much money for a bike thats been the same for the last 7 years give or take the odd style change and a bottom of the range ABS fitment.
I think you need to accept that, over time, all stuff gets more expensive and stop being such a miserable old bastard. ;)
I do like what KTM do with all their bikes. They've got more corporate bottle than all the Jap factories added together.
I do think there is a business plan at work though. They've spent a few years establishing credibility with the SD, RC8, etc and now they are moving their brand into the Premium category where all the cash is for a small manufacturer. There is no way that bike costs nearly as half as much again to build as the old one. If it does, they should fire all of their Manufacturing Engineers! And I know exchange rate has an input too.