B1 idle speed

Started by 1-600-matt, January 24, 2014, 10:08:19 PM

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1-600-matt

£840 for a slipper clutch!! The wife generally is ok with any bike related spend, but id have to keep that one quiet! Prob be better off getting a different bike! Think I will try altering what I'm doing first!

Gobert

Sigma's are £696 inc vat but that's as little as you'll pay for decent slipper clutch - STM's and Suters are nearer a grand.

mc101

Quote from: Alzo on January 26, 2014, 05:38:14 PM
If you are barreling into corners at breakneck speed feathering a clutch is the last thing you want to be doing imho...blipping the throttle to match the speed and chosen gear is the way to go.

blipping does not resolve engine braking causing the rear to break traction. Millhouse is right, a moderately manually induced clutch slip is the way to go and very easy to master with a few laps practice.  It needs surprisingly little lever action on the clutch.

Try riding a 996 without slipping the clutch to retain stability at corner entry.

Quote from: Millhouse on January 26, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
Only place I've tried it was  the back straight at snett, big braking, blipping and the rear was bouncing all over the place.

Add a little hint of clutch slip and all was peachy setting up for the corner.


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Millhouse

Where's the "slaps forehead and feints from shock at getting something right" smiley??

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Alzo

I did say "imho"...and I understand the what clutch slipping does...I have been riding bikes for over 35 years...I just don't have the capacity to concentrate on hard braking...corner entry...then add in a little clutch slipping at the same time...so to that end I tip my hat to both of you for your ability.

mc101

Quote from: Alzo on January 30, 2014, 08:55:40 PM
I did say "imho"...and I understand the what clutch slipping does...I have been riding bikes for over 35 years...I just don't have the capacity to concentrate on hard braking...corner entry...then add in a little clutch slipping at the same time...so to that end I tip my hat to both of you for your ability.

You'd be surprised how natural it becomes it's not that difficult honestly.  It's merely about changing a long standing habit (not doing it).

The key thing to riding quickly to to get the basics automated and repeatable.  Once I establish a braking, turn in, brake release, power application it's an automated and zero concentration task freeing me tup to concentrate on other bikes, small corrections etc.

If your concentrating hard on the basics something fundamental is afoot ...
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Alzo

Fair comment....I get what you mean in terms of freeing yourself up...perhaps not as daunting as it sounds...I guess a bit of trial and error required to determine how much slip to induce.

mc101

Quote from: Alzo on January 30, 2014, 10:10:04 PM
Fair comment....I get what you mean in terms of freeing yourself up...perhaps not as daunting as it sounds...I guess a bit of trial and error required to determine how much slip to induce.

Oddly enough usually a rest on the lever is enough, you don't need to pull it per sell.not sure I'd want to practice it on the road !
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Alzo

No wouldn't try it on the road....I make progress when road riding...but not Track riding pace. Planning a Trackday this year...so will give it a try.

greenmeeny

C1h slipper clutch fits with input shaft.