Other than challenging looks, anyone have any experience of them; they get good reviews as having decent handling and come with decent suspension compared to other naked/semi-faired middle weights

What are they selling for these days?

Looks like anything between £1500 & £2500, depending on mileage, they seem to be fairly rare though

I rode a TT...willing engine...worth a punt if in the right condition.

The obvious choice would be a Z750, but like the idea of better suspension, or hold out and go for a z1000...but I like light and nimble bikes

I found the Z750 engine asthmatic...636 has more pull and urgency...never ridden a Z1000...but imagine it would pull well...but probably not as light and nimble as per your desire.

A sales flop from memory.  Probably a bit before it's time seeing how popular sports naked bikes are now.
Any that are still around must be getting on a bit now?

Quote from: Alzo on June 17, 2018, 10:45:29 PM
I found the Z750 engine asthmatic...636 has more pull and urgency...never ridden a Z1000...but imagine it would pull well...but probably not as light and nimble as per your desire.

Good to know, cheers. Have never ridden the z750, but had a brief shot of a z1000 and loved it; it was on twisty roads but only about ten miles, tops.

Quote from: David W on June 18, 2018, 06:37:21 AM
A sales flop from memory.  Probably a bit before it's time seeing how popular sports naked bikes are now.
Any that are still around must be getting on a bit now?

Yeah, maybe was a bit ahead of its time, ironic in that it's base was just too late to the market.
Street Triple was more on the money, but maybe a bit more than I want to spend.

Quote from: DaveH on June 18, 2018, 08:51:42 AM

Quote from: Alzo on June 17, 2018, 10:45:29 PM
I found the Z750 engine asthmatic...636 has more pull and urgency...never ridden a Z1000...but imagine it would pull well...but probably not as light and nimble as per your desire.

Good to know, cheers. Have never ridden the z750, but had a brief shot of a z1000 and loved it; it was on twisty roads but only about ten miles, tops.

Z750 has a good linear power delivery, not frantic like a SS600 but above 9K it pulls hard and fast.

Suspension is its weak point, mines in now with JHS having the front end fully service new seals, stantions, KTEC springs  for my weight etc. I will adjust the rear as its set as standard for a rider of 70KG and possibly swap out the rear shock for a new Nitron. its a lovely bike just needs a few tweaks to really make me smile.

Quote from: Neio79 on June 18, 2018, 09:30:21 AM

Quote from: DaveH on June 18, 2018, 08:51:42 AM

Quote from: Alzo on June 17, 2018, 10:45:29 PM
I found the Z750 engine asthmatic...636 has more pull and urgency...never ridden a Z1000...but imagine it would pull well...but probably not as light and nimble as per your desire.

Good to know, cheers. Have never ridden the z750, but had a brief shot of a z1000 and loved it; it was on twisty roads but only about ten miles, tops.

Z750 has a good linear power delivery, not frantic like a SS600 but above 9K it pulls hard and fast.

Suspension is its weak point, mines in now with JHS having the front end fully service new seals, stantions, KTEC springs  for my weight etc. I will adjust the rear as its set as standard for a rider of 70KG and possibly swap out the rear shock for a new Nitron. its a lovely bike just needs a few tweaks to really make me smile.

Thanks for the info, had read that there were tweaks that could be made to sort out the handling, but wasn't sure what they were.

Quote from: DaveH on June 18, 2018, 08:58:50 AM

Quote from: David W on June 18, 2018, 06:37:21 AM
A sales flop from memory.  Probably a bit before it's time seeing how popular sports naked bikes are now.
Any that are still around must be getting on a bit now?

Yeah, maybe was a bit ahead of its time, ironic in that it's base was just too late to the market.
Street Triple was more on the money, but maybe a bit more than I want to spend.

Stretch your budget and get the Street you won't regret it 

Didn't the Speed Four have the same fuelling issues as the TT600?

Quote from: Dom1 on June 18, 2018, 10:45:09 PM
Didn't the Speed Four have the same fuelling issues as the TT600?

According to the MCN review, there were lots of tweaks to sort out the fuel injection issues, but still snatchy around town.

Quote from: Green_Ninja on June 18, 2018, 10:22:03 PM

Quote from: DaveH on June 18, 2018, 08:58:50 AM

Quote from: David W on June 18, 2018, 06:37:21 AM
A sales flop from memory.  Probably a bit before it's time seeing how popular sports naked bikes are now.
Any that are still around must be getting on a bit now?

Yeah, maybe was a bit ahead of its time, ironic in that it's base was just too late to the market.
Street Triple was more on the money, but maybe a bit more than I want to spend.

Stretch your budget and get the Street you won't regret it 

I hear you, but they start about £5k, not £3k ish