As the banks are paying no interest and shares, bonds and other lowish risk investments are paying back very little, I'm thinking about buying a bike as an interest and investment. Occasional rides and pottering about in the garage. I'm thinking SP-1 or 2, Ducati 999, early GSX-R.
Any thoughts, advise or experience?
Bought my Lotus and MV for the same reason.... Nice to own and won't at least lose money.
Doubt my MV will increase much in value but my Lotus has almost doubled since I got it.
Nice to open your garage and smile.....you can't do that with money in the bank
Good points well made Dan.
Why do you think the MV won't appreciate over some years?
The trick is finding something that will appreciate.
I was amazed how much TVR Griffiths' command these days. Back in 2000 I couldn't give mine away for love nor money. Today, its worth at least twice what I was asking for it back then, but thats 16 years later.
I doubt you'll buy anything two-wheeled to appreciate like Dan's Lotus has and to find an original SP1/2 or 999 will cost a fair amount for a decent one in the first place.
When you consider the bikes that cost a lot to buy these days, all were made in limited numbers (RC30,RC45, R7, Bimota V-Due etc) in the first place - the SP1/2 or 999 aren't limited enough. There was a genuine HRC SP1 Dunlop rep on a Facebook selling site recently that was a little tatty and he was only asking £4k for that.
I think you need to consider your budget and accept no loss other than making anything in return for a rare modern classic in the garage.
I've heard slab side GSX-R's or especially original red and white R1's are appreciating.
I'd particularly thought an SP-2 maybe even Edwards rep but my question is asked to listen rather than justify my thoughts.
I guess I may look to spend circa £10k on one or maybe two bikes.
Harley or Indian may be an option but again, no obvious models stand out.
would love a sp1/2 for occasional ride outs
How many rc8/r's were made?
Quote from: Andy M on September 28, 2016, 04:50:58 PM
would love a sp1/2 for occasional ride outs
How many rc8/r's were made?
Too many to be in the "appreciating" bracket.
Get an nr750 and be done with it
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on September 28, 2016, 08:21:25 PM
Get an nr750 and be done with it
That in itself could prove an expensive challenge....
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on September 28, 2016, 04:24:07 PM
Nice to open your garage and smile.....you can't do that with money in the bank
You git!!! You're not helping!!!!!
Quote from: PJ on September 28, 2016, 08:44:24 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on September 28, 2016, 08:21:25 PM
Get an nr750 and be done with it
That in itself could prove an expensive challenge....
Well worth it though! , Only problem is if it was me I'd want to ride it not clean it and look at it , something a bit special about them
You realize he said 10K budget, not 100K
As has been said before, you would have to look for something made in limited numbers. But that is risky, as too obscure and there would never be the demand or appeal for it to be considered an investment
Homologated zx7r?
Some massive risks ive often considered before, but not gone through with are;
SachsB805
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sachs-B-805-Roadster-RARE-AND-STUNNING-BIKE-/222252945638?hash=item33bf4ed0e6:g:5goAAOSwAuZX3USq
An old Armstrong ex army scrambler
Original royal enfield woodman (or other similar variations such as post office?
The supermoto I cannot even remember the make or model of from the 90's. I think it was ccm? Came in an electric green, quite ugly, but kick started the supermoto craze at the time
...I would probably go for the obvious choice you have already mentioned though. Castrol SP-1 plus an RS250
I think you are onto something with your AR50 if FS1E's are anything to go by.
What is the next generation of nostalgia?
Hold out and find an absolutely mint B1h zx6r saw a brand new unregistered one go for 8k a couple years back , definitely a future classic
Quote from: Jarse on September 28, 2016, 04:27:04 PM
Good points well made Dan.
Why do you think the MV won't appreciate over some years?
I think it will, in time. Mine's a bit leggy at 20K but very clean. Over time I think the miles will become less important but it won't ever be huge money.
If you're looking to invest in something, it needs to be iconic and be kept low mileage to attract buyers in the future.
I was chatting to a client recently who deals in classic cars, he advised me to use my money to buy a classic car, and borrow the rest to buy the best I can find as borrowing is cheap.......... had I applied that theory to my Esprit, I would have spent say 25K on a mint S1 rather than 15K on a very good S2..... and whilst my S2 is probably worth 25K now, S1's are selling for 60K upwards..... so his logic is sound.
I'd be looking for a 888 now if I was looking to invest.
Also..... don't blow them up..... I bought my Sport 350 for 20K, sold it without an engine for 10K...... it's now worth as much as 50 to 70K
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUCATI-916-SP3-021-OF-50-VERY-RARE-BIKE-/252467795948?hash=item3ac840d7ec:g:I3cAAOSwZVlXjoIv
if you could get this closer to 15K, it would be a good investment
Bimota SB6?
One popped up on my Facebook this morning and I liked it lots.
Look for the game changers and the icons..... Kawasaki Z's, early GSXR's, RGV's RC30's, RC45's, OW01's, 888's, 916's, early blades and early R1's.
I think 999's will appreciate. Dicko's got a mint 2000 miler he paid £3,500 for and a project slab side he gave £750 for....... I've also got a BSA C11 I took off a wall in a bar in Manchester........
Great feedback, thanks all.
That 916 looks like the very thing, my budget is flexible enough. 999 also appeals.
I'm also thinking about taking a punt on an MSX125 Honda as a side interest.
I've plenty of time to research and shop about.
Quote from: Jarse on September 29, 2016, 09:24:26 AM
Great feedback, thanks all.
That 916 looks like the very thing, my budget is flexible enough. 999 also appeals.
I'm also thinking about taking a punt on an MSX125 Honda as a side interest.
I've plenty of time to research and shop about.
You ever ridden the msx125?
Nope, but they are funky, were not made for too long and have a cult following. Loads of accessories available too.
Have you?
Same principle as with art I guess..... get something you like and will enjoy, even if it's just garage bling
My Buell is unusual enough to have investment potential I suppose.... and I love it.
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on September 29, 2016, 09:38:06 AM
Same principle as with art I guess..... get something you like and will enjoy
All well and good but my Rolf Harris collection is worth nothing now.
Quote from: Jarse on September 29, 2016, 09:32:18 AM
Nope, but they are funky, were not made for too long and have a cult following. Loads of accessories available too.
Have you?
They have just revised the model looks bit funkier now , yes did a test ride for Honda over 2 days when they first came out , I hated it stock I did take it on a dual carriage way , it feels like it's going to tip over forward the riding position feels like the front wheel is between your legs seriously don't buy one without riding one first Honda main dealers have them on demo , I've seen them as stunt bikes , cafe racers , sports bikes there's a million mods for them
Quote from: Jarse on September 29, 2016, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on September 29, 2016, 09:38:06 AM
Same principle as with art I guess..... get something you like and will enjoy
All well and good but my Rolf Harris collection is worth nothing now.
genuinely had me giggling did that....... depends if it's artwork, or child size signed butt plugs.......
The inner workings of your mind are of slight concern to me Dan....
Carbon, I'd have little intention of riding the MSX, I own a couple of proper bikes. I just think it will go FS-1E/C90 way over the long term.
It might do ya never know or it may be a bike they produce for the next 20 years...
888 is a very good shout!
Something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-DM100-100cc-Two-Stroke-196-Barn-Find-Restoration-Project-Ride-290-miles-/222248857372?hash=item33bf106f1c:g:IogAAOSwGtRX18zo
^Hell, i might fucking buy that!
Get it back to looking somehting like this http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=38514.0 nice.
Ducati Paul Smart sport classic?
Ducati 1098R
(Budget £15k?)
MH900E would probably be a better option than the Paul Smart
Quote from: Phil_8 on September 29, 2016, 10:50:34 AM
MH900E would probably be a better option than the Paul Smart
I had to Google that but yes, a lovely bike.
Early speed triple for the win..... cheaper than it'll ever be and cool as fuck.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triumph-Speed-Triple-Mk1-900-1996-/112143032026?hash=item1a1c3ededa:g:IpwAAOSwNRdX4TvE
The inner workings of my mind are of a major concern to me.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1954-Triumph-Thunderbird-99-Complete-Project-/112150710180?hash=item1a1cb407a4:g:F5gAAOSwzaJX6rZe
Quote from: Phil_8 on September 29, 2016, 10:36:05 AM
888 is a very good shout!
Something like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ducati-DM100-100cc-Two-Stroke-196-Barn-Find-Restoration-Project-Ride-290-miles-/222248857372?hash=item33bf106f1c:g:IogAAOSwGtRX18zo
^Hell, i might fucking buy that!
Get it back to looking somehting like this http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=38514.0 nice.
Remember what you were saying on Sunday? Whether it's 1000cc or 50cc, the restoration jobs cost the same... ;)
I like that Thunderbird.
Quote from: Raydial on September 29, 2016, 03:54:13 PM
Remember what you were saying on Sunday? Whether it's 1000cc or 50cc, the restoration jobs cost the same... ;)
Haha. Yeah, but this is a small capacity ducati and would be cool as fuck
Quote from: Jarse on September 29, 2016, 04:13:41 PM
I like that Thunderbird.
Jarse In 'Preferring The Triumph' Shocker!!1! ;)
Quote from: Phil_8 on September 29, 2016, 10:43:41 PM
Quote from: Raydial on September 29, 2016, 03:54:13 PM
Remember what you were saying on Sunday? Whether it's 1000cc or 50cc, the restoration jobs cost the same... ;)
Haha. Yeah, but this is a small capacity ducati and would be cool as fuck
You make a very good point! :laugh:
Quote from: Jarse on September 29, 2016, 09:24:26 AM
Great feedback, thanks all.
That 916 looks like the very thing, my budget is flexible enough. 999 also appeals.
I'm also thinking about taking a punt on an MSX125 Honda as a side interest.
Dee Dub :tongue:
You would be mad to have a 999 over the 916/998 bikes I've had both
999R and I have a 998 loved my 998 but naturally the thing didn't work half the time the 999 was a good bike but it was just the looks for me didn't quite do it ,.
The 916 would be the one I'd go for. It's the one I lusted after when it came out. And I still lust after them. It changed design standards so it remains iconic by being the first iteration.
I think 999 is more likely to appreciate in years to come than a 916
916 is the obvious choice that everyone will expect to be worth loads. 999 styling was ahead of its time and will be more sought after in the future imo. .....like the suzuki katana
After a quick squint through Autotrader, any thoughts on the attached?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201606084714578?search-target=usedbikes&price-from=10000&price-to=16000&cc-from=300cc&cc-to=1100cc&sort=pricedesc&postcode=ab228at&radius=1500&searchcontext=default&page=1&logcode=p&adPos=2
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201512099338848?search-target=usedbikes&price-from=10000&price-to=16000&cc-from=300cc&cc-to=1100cc&sort=pricedesc&postcode=ab228at&radius=1500&searchcontext=default&page=2&logcode=p&adPos=8
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201609097595948?search-target=usedbikes&make=bsa&price-from=10000&price-to=16000&cc-from=300cc&cc-to=1100cc&sort=pricedesc&radius=1500&postcode=ab228at&page=1&searchcontext=default&logcode=p&adPos=3
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/search/used/bikes/ajs/postcode/ab228at/radius/1500/price-from/10000/price-to/16000/cc-from/300cc/cc-to/1100cc/searchcontext/default/sort/pricedesc/page/1
I wouldn't say that the styling was ahead of its time imo I'd just say the 999 styling was wrong
I disagree, the 999 styling was too radical a departure from the 916 too early but looks fantastic and still does today.
916 Senna?
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on September 30, 2016, 04:51:10 PM
I disagree, the 999 styling was too radical a departure from the 916 too early but looks fantastic and still does today.
I can't see it reaching cult status though...but then again I have been known to talk out of my arse.
Cult status no..... Rarity value maybe..... Decent low miler is worth having
Ok here's my opinion, as it's a forum and it's expected.... But...
Don't you think that these 'modern day classics' have a shelf life?? As in people 'our' age, would willingly pay good money for the old urban tiger blades, 998's, or 98 R1's,and at the moment will hold their value. But, once this generation are too old to want to shell out cash for bikes, the bottom will fall out if that market, and the younger generation will want their nostalgic gsxr1000s or 2016 R1's?
Quote from: Foo on September 30, 2016, 10:57:41 PM
Ok here's my opinion, as it's a forum and it's expected.... But...
Don't you think that these 'modern day classics' have a shelf life?? As in people 'our' age, would willingly pay good money for the old urban tiger blades, 998's, or 98 R1's,and at the moment will hold their value. But, once this generation are too old to want to shell out cash for bikes, the bottom will fall out if that market, and the younger generation will want their nostalgic gsxr1000s or 2016 R1's?
I agree at a point with exception of a few they will just become old bikes....
There's always the danger that the market will stall when borrowing becomes more expensive. I still think that the bikes will be desirable as the bikes we crave now are the ones we hold nostalgia for, but also the ones our dad had..... and a classic will always be a classic.
If you get something which hold cult/cool/classic status now, keep it low mileage and in decent order, it'll never lose value.
Hugh is just looking for something to own which will hold value, or even make a few quid whilst his savings do fook all, so he can't really go wrong with something he will enjoy owning.
Can I just say...... Good topic Shug.
Between this and the early retirement I am really going off you.
Jealousy is a terrible thing.
Simple answer from me.................if the bikes that might go up in value are what you actually want then fine but if you end up buying something that could be classed as an "investment" but isn't actually the bike you want then I'd say it's missing the point of riding in the first place..............enjoyment.
Risks with any investment...the trick would be to buy cheap just now...store for a future sale...what bike would suit that would be anyones guess...if you had said to anyone years ago an FZ1E would be a great bike to keep as an investment they would have laughed in your face.
Dan, great summary, thanks.
Dom, from what I see on Facebook, you are by far the richest Ninja I know. Your family are awesome.
Gobert, I have bikes to ride and that I want to own and any investment would also be a bike I liked, just not one to use much and make a few quid at the end of ownership. I'd love an SP-2 in my garage or classic BSA/AJS/whatever.
Foo, thanks for your thoughts to food for thought but I see bikes like Slab Sided GSX-R,s going for a reasonable sum so still believe the right modern bike will appreciate. (Hopefully).
I'm not out to make a killing, just enjoy something and maybe beat the bank.
You make a valid point, but I'm still going to work on Monday. ;)
You need to with that size of family.
For me either the Paul Smart Ducati, MV or Ducati Senna or the 900 are candidates.
This caught my eye at my local dealer today, thoughts?
http://www.shirlaws.com/pages/used/used-bikes/2010-10-MV-AGUSTA-F4%201078RR%20312-1078cc/57c1b3b78cf2f95c.htm
In no way an "investment" opportunity.
Just a standard model. Will drop to more for certain.
Knowing how much I appreciate a properly sorted competition machine I am wondering where ex-race bikes would fit into the investment bracket.
Other than track days at Goodwood.
ive gone about this in a slightly different way
i already know i own the greatest bike ever made and that will be sought after til end of days
so bought myself this little beastie to use as my day to day
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8adtrvio4ri_n-VOVaEnuyknYf9_0wRoQYNNvhk0_EeBpPxzldjIV_EB3ByOWHwUTZH9Qmpzpt2z6vcJ4o1eFIETNwhwj2CrUOgX6HFLJLchZwRbbuixoc3m41idy22Fr73Bw2ByDyGHPG1txbTes6x_fCaz0ZFepB92um2T3IdeA-28WIhq-MFqLVJEFFGJGHyynM2V1TiMc-p9t39fwnO88WYTsBobyJm8GibGGDoS5nAKJQ42v2Bka2xq8AMnSMgYqHt4-y213iYn7Z_UnFsEvGxJ9neJj7FXjLE4lscE-vEmPnkuMZaixhYrdzplpeaE5pD_yMc3RascTVAiOgaBnHlPqhH0Z00-j4cbt93EZLFMpCXBAFmgO_Eb73cKgtQghr9Un8DkqbT1CRVvwhyo_206pFKxQdPd9nA7CgEo1MmE2H5Xj6iYkCMiPFQ6BnclqNWxC3Clp0nV5qgvTUGqiPAD0I_cjXxHvFs4BfLCSjIIioeTRdw96CvaDhFy6yCUJFzUdPIrLbStomBRQX97hQShWFXWxjvKKVR5pVq1hDZaMpKT6PZhpoIlOSIJITKWrJisHTwt6_0a71TcTd-i4B4oFLJlZq54DTRdKQ_Fz4Dc=w200-h134-no)
so the 899 can spend more of its time sitting about with its feet up being pampered :grin:
so far loving the ktm, its mental!
Nice one :cool:
Thoughts on the RC8 kids?...... potential future icon?......
No racing pedigree to speak of, didn't move the game forward, not even highlighted as a stand out machine of the time...... just an unusual design.
Maybe seen with the same fondness as a Suzuki Katana in years to come?
I'd still love one in my garage..... but I'm not sure how I'll feel about it in 5-10 years time.
Its a no from me.
Not special enough.
I think Will Smith had it right in iRobot where he plays a Converse wearing, MV F4 riding future cop with a penchant for iconic classics.........
MV will always be a sought after brand is the same way people will always want an old Ferrari
How about a BMW HP2 Sport?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/bikes/motorcycles/bmw/hp2/2009-bmw-hp2-sport-1170cc-alton-bfpa-201512149436280?logcode=p
Quote from: Dom1 on October 03, 2016, 01:50:35 PM
How about a BMW HP2 Sport?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/bikes/motorcycles/bmw/hp2/2009-bmw-hp2-sport-1170cc-alton-bfpa-201512149436280?logcode=p
Left of field and could very well appreciate...but I would think a small audience.
Always loved that bike ever since I sat on one at brands hatch bsb
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on October 03, 2016, 12:13:17 PM
MV will always be a sought after brand is the same way people will always want an old Ferrari
are we going to have one of those 'bikes are cheaper in the winter' moments?
No?
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on October 03, 2016, 03:45:37 PM
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on October 03, 2016, 12:13:17 PM
MV will always be a sought after brand is the same way people will always want an old Ferrari
are we going to have one of those 'bikes are cheaper in the winter' moments?
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on October 03, 2016, 04:01:38 PM
No?
Are they not?
(http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/2005_bike_pics/12S.jpg)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/jtHt7SGfIYqWc/giphy.gif)
Same as yours?
Quote from: Jarse on October 05, 2016, 12:07:50 PM
Same as yours?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/jtHt7SGfIYqWc/giphy.gif)
I agree
Not many on Autotrader.
And to think..... when they were wound up, you could get a spanker for a shade under 5K
I've got a soft spot for the EBR 1190rx would love to have a go on one
Quote from: Andy M on October 05, 2016, 07:21:13 PM
I've got a soft spot for the EBR 1190rx would love to have a go on one
I did...rapid...handled like a good one...Engine at tick over felt as if there was someone inside trying to get out with the use of a 10lb hammer...build quality is eye wateringly bad...you need to see it to believe it.
Quote from: Dom1 on October 03, 2016, 01:50:35 PM
How about a BMW HP2 Sport?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/bikes/motorcycles/bmw/hp2/2009-bmw-hp2-sport-1170cc-alton-bfpa-201512149436280?logcode=p
Yes yes yes. Has the x factor required I think. As does the Boxer Cup Replica.
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on October 05, 2016, 10:03:36 AM
(http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/2005_bike_pics/12S.jpg)
V. cool looking bike, man.
I liked mine a lot.
Got rid of it when it started randomly breaking down due to an apparent intermittant electrical fault that would never present unless you were in the middle of nowhere.
Always wanted one but never had the funds spare one a reasonably priced one comes along
(http://spirit.triumphmotorcycles.com/img/issue15/speed/inset2.jpg)
Quote from: tucola on October 05, 2016, 09:12:41 PM
I liked mine a lot.
Got rid of it when it started randomly breaking down due to an apparent intermittant electrical fault that would never present unless you were in the middle of nowhere.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/8MZOHrGRLuqhq/giphy.gif)
(http://www.sailnut.com/sites/default/files/tls.jpg)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZR750-R-/262539042363?hash=item3d208bde3b:g:tQoAAOSwu1VW6Ukf
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on October 06, 2016, 07:10:16 AM
(http://spirit.triumphmotorcycles.com/img/issue15/speed/inset2.jpg)
Yes Yes Yes
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on October 06, 2016, 08:16:46 AM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZR750-R-/262539042363?hash=item3d208bde3b:g:tQoAAOSwu1VW6Ukf
Lovely. Some nice ones listed below also. Being picky I think I'd prefer something less expensive hopefully with a bit of scope to appreciate rather than something that's already taken off. Still keeping an eye on the "over 10 years old" search on Autotrader. Sort by most expensive first and scroll a bit and there are some lovely machines for not much cash.
Get a B1. Sorted ;)
Quote from: GRUMPY on October 06, 2016, 05:29:29 PM
Get a B1. Sorted ;)
What do you think yours is worth v what you paid for it?
Quote from: Jarse on October 06, 2016, 06:15:24 PM
Quote from: GRUMPY on October 06, 2016, 05:29:29 PM
Get a B1. Sorted ;)
What do you think yours is worth v what you paid for it?
Half of what I paid for it probably.
There won't be many bikes bought new that increase in value (IMO).
R7, RC45, RC30 and similar might.
The price of zx7r's is slowly creeping up
If an RR or ex WSB/BSB came up it would definitely be worth a serious consideration
Find the barn that is holding all the Foggy Petronas bikes and steal one
My mate works here and this is in stock. Only gonna appreciate,esp with that mileage? http://www.johnbanks.co.uk/honda-motorcycles/used-bikes/6556641-aprilia-all-models-all-variants/#tab-videos-content
Quote from: Druid on October 13, 2016, 12:02:54 PM
My mate works here and this is in stock. Only gonna appreciate,esp with that mileage? http://www.johnbanks.co.uk/honda-motorcycles/used-bikes/6556641-aprilia-all-models-all-variants/#tab-videos-content
No chance. It's just a standard bike
very overpriced aswell for the standard
Here's a thought....start a Motorcycle Shop and I'll come work for you.
Quote from: The Wizard of MOz on October 13, 2016, 06:38:52 PM
Quote from: Druid on October 13, 2016, 12:02:54 PM
My mate works here and this is in stock. Only gonna appreciate,esp with that mileage? http://www.johnbanks.co.uk/honda-motorcycles/used-bikes/6556641-aprilia-all-models-all-variants/#tab-videos-content
No chance. It's just a standard bike
Oddly, I don't see that as overpriced, I can't see anything else a lot cheaper?! maybe £3000 but wouldn't say it's way over the top.
What about something along the lines of this: http://www.lincolnshiremotorcycles.co.uk/Public/content/Product.aspx?ProductID=285
Limited run, low'ish miles...
Quote from: Alzo on October 14, 2016, 07:25:13 AM
Here's a thought....start a Motorcycle Shop and I'll come work for you.
You'd buy them all so it would be a bloody successful business and it'll always have a 'keeper' or two in stock
Quote from: Manic636 on October 14, 2016, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: Alzo on October 14, 2016, 07:25:13 AM
Here's a thought....start a Motorcycle Shop and I'll come work for you.
You'd buy them all so it would be a bloody successful business and it'll always have a 'keeper' or two in stock
😁
2010 MV312RR
£7650
Again, it's just a standard model so can't see it ever being considered as an investment.
Only the Senna and Tamburini models would accomplish that I think.
They did a Cluzel special edition of the 800 and 650. They might be worth a look if you want an investment MV.
mint tri-colour?
(http://www.ducati.org/forums/attachments/sale-wanted/269d1177436610-2007-ducati-1098-tricolor-arrives-4-27-ducati-1098-1.jpg)
Quote from: Dom1 on October 17, 2016, 11:30:47 PM
2010 MV312RR
£7650
I'll be in a minority...but I think that bike looks shit...too bulbous.
Don't think it's an investment.
Benelli Tornado?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIMOTA-V-DUE-500cc-2-Stroke-V-twin-Collectors-1-of-the-16-original-UK-Bikes-/131885751380?hash=item1eb500dc54:g:XLwAAOSwbsBXkkir
Notoriously iconic, rare, mint almost no miles.
I wouldn't personally, but it ticks the investment box
Bit out of budget though ain't it?
Bet that pulls like a train
I'm an architect..... budgets are nothing more than barriers to be overcome.
Bet you're a bit young to remember the issues with those bikes?
http://www.odd-bike.com/2012/11/bimota-v-due-500-bike-that-killed-bimota.html
I know its a standard model but I reckon an original low mileage 2004 ZX10R would appreciate in a similar way to early Fireblades.
Quote from: Lord Danoir the first on October 18, 2016, 12:02:03 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIMOTA-V-DUE-500cc-2-Stroke-V-twin-Collectors-1-of-the-16-original-UK-Bikes-/131885751380?hash=item1eb500dc54:g:XLwAAOSwbsBXkkir
Notoriously iconic, rare, mint almost no miles.
I wouldn't personally, but it ticks the investment box
Totally agree on the investment side of things.
Get the injectors replaced with carbs and it'll be awesome.
I know its a standard model but I reckon an original low mileage 2004 ZX10R would appreciate in a similar way to early Fireblades.
Does 60,000 class as low miles cos if so I could be ££££££ 😀
As long as its not gay champagne colour.
Original ZX10 didn't come in champagne, did it?
Thought that was later.
I remember green, black, possibly blue and possibly orange.
If you can find one. Aprilia 550sxv VDB fetch silly money now.
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/121307bottom_zpsq34azvcp.jpg)[/URL]
My standard one has increased in value since I sold it.
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a230/icescape/terrys/n8178.jpg)[/URL]
Quote from: tucola on October 18, 2016, 04:58:59 PM
Original ZX10 didn't come in champagne, did it?
Thought that was later.
I remember green, black, possibly blue and possibly orange.
Launch colours were blue, black and green. Gay Champagne was an 05 colour. Orange was an import colour. The 04 bikes had the "R" on the tail graphic in yellow, the 05 bikes it changed to red.
Well someone is knowledgeable!
Quote from: Carbon_ZX6R on October 18, 2016, 07:03:50 PM
Well someone is knowledgeable!
He's owned them all... :rofl: :moto: :moto:
Quote from: Dom1 on October 18, 2016, 02:28:50 PM
I know its a standard model but I reckon an original low mileage 2004 ZX10R would appreciate in a similar way to early Fireblades.
:cool:
Jarse - BMW HP4 Carbon for sale down in Devon if that is of any interest.
2013 BMW HP4 Carbon, less than 3k miles, these are limited edition bikes. Has full HP4 Carbon spec plus SAMCO hoses, bike tracker, R&G tail tidy, R&G rad guard, rear cotton reels, full venture shield paint protection & private plate starting HP04. These are immense bikes and BMW have one up for £17.5k without the extras. I'm asking £15,500.
(http://files.activeboard.com/2010172?AWSAccessKeyId=1XXJBWHKN0QBQS6TGPG2&Expires=1489017600&Signature=RhDBbb4cpVO7xAIBUSNE3BIKpHc%3D)
Thanks Dom. Not a model I'd thought about but worth a look into.
I'm not sure that would appreciate.
Might not depreciate as quickly, but doubt it would go up. It's not special enough.
Also take a look at the HP2. They seem to be rising in value